Miracle grow soil

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Originally Posted by skyhigh35

Read the ingredients! MG Organic contains Ammonium Nitrate. If you are looking for some organic yields MG is anything but. Ammonium Nitrate is the bi-product of ammonia and nitric acid! It is contains high levels of nitrogen that some industrial farms use in fields because of it cost effectiveness.

It is also the main ingredient is the Oklahoma City Bombings!!!!!!! Why would you ever want to put something in your body that was used to kill of 160 people ????? The only organic ingredient in the whole mix is the chicken shit they add to give it organic name. If it was really organic, it would have the OMRI stamp on the cover of the bag. As a base MG is far to dense anyway, roots need more air and texture then the packed soil MG makes. There are several other brands that can be bought at any hardware or garden shop that don't contain bomb ingredients. Just read the ingredients before purchasing!!!! Of course MG will grow almost anything you plant in it but do you really want to ingest chemicals used to make bombs?

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That is one lol-larious post. Thanks for the laughs.

Miracle-Grow potting soil is OK, as stated, add about 30% perlite ... I used the 'organic' MG version, because it seemed to have the least added fertilizers, of their varieties ... I'm not on the 'organic bus', by a long shot ... I am not convinced the plant can tell the difference between nitrogen obtained from minerals, or obtained from rotting materials ... nitrogen is nitrogen, it's an element ... (I think) :D

Honestly when I put the MG plants next to the fox farm plants there are only two things I really notice.

1. MG grown plants have GREENER leaves, they are also taller and stretched a little more than the others(Im guessing because of the extra NItrogen in the MG)

2. Fox farms buds Have more visible resin and it almost seemed like they have a little more odor.


Other than that, the plants are identical and all have about the same amount of budsites and are all around the same size and buds look damn near identical(they are all clones of the same strain)

I cant really notice a huge difference and think that all of this bashing on MG soil is unjustified. Cheap...Yes Inorganic...yes , but honestly i cant say that the stuff is bad soil or gives you bad quality product. I doubt that the people making all of these claims ever used the soil.

Thank you RUSTY for coming out with some actual personal experience, other than having all of these people tell me something they heard from somebody over the internet.

All I have ever used is MG soil. It works great in my opinion. I still give it a regular feeding of nutrients from SuperNatural. This last grow was 2.5oz per plant dry.

FACT: I found two 2" x 3" pieces of pressure treated lumber in a bag of MG organic I purchased several months ago. If you want to use a product that has pressure treated lumber in it, then go right ahead.

Im growing currently in an MG mixture, and havent seen any bad results yet... tho I couldnt speak on the cough/flavor of the final product as I haven't harvested and sampled. I do know that they are growing great, without stretching, and without having to add any nutes at all. I have recently started watering with a flowering nute (higher P and K), but only every other watering - plain water in between.
And about ammonium nitrate... its part of every form of fecal-based fertilizer on the planet. Just because its extremely volatile, doesnt mean its bad for plants... just means it has a highly reactive molecule. The reason why Ammonium Nitrate is volatile is because as it is broken down by heat, it creates nitrogen(nearly inert) and concentrated levels of Oxygen. Oxygen is highly reactive, and explosive, but the roots of a plant need it to survive.

So, not trying to be a douche and dismiss someone but just because it goes boom when concentrated, doesnt mean it isnt useful in plant nutes.

I havent personally seen pressure treated wood in MG, but because I havent seen it, doesnt mean it doesnt happen.... It also means that they can have quality control issues, but doesnt every company occasionally?

That said, time released nutes are tricky to work with, since most people are eager to add nutes as soon as the serrated leaves have popped. No doubt, though, that unless you leach the time released particles out of the soil by natural means, the taste of the final results would be affected (even if minor).

sorry about the rant.:rastasmoke: I'd say tho, that overall MG is good, as long as they arent fed until theyre close to 12/12 light. If they are fed additional nutrients, a buildup can occur and the plants get 'locked out'. Then its more difficult to 'flush' since the time-released nutes arent as readily flushed from the medium.
:smokin:

Dug a dead shrub out of a planter my wife had outside this past summer. Dropped my seedling in there and keep it watered...3rd week of flower now.

Every company has quality issues, but the level of quality that they set their bar at is terrible. I have used MG soils the organic and the reg stuff for all my house plants. After transplanting those plants tiny flies were born and took awhile to kill off. I have never had anything like that from any other medium other then Miracle Grow. Anything will work i suppose if given the right attention, I just prefer using stuff like promix or Fox Farm products based on my own experience with them. Most towns have nurseries or Home depot etc that would carry at least Promix or some other Organic effective inexpensive alternative. Or at the very least skip the kind of mg that feeds for three months and you shouldn't have too many issues that can't be fixed.

If you buy ANY brand of potting soil from a store that stores their bags outside in the rain and elements?...the gnats are gonna lay their eggs in it...especially in the summer.

Ever notice most bags have holes in them?

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Originally Posted by mmjman

FACT: I found two 2" x 3" pieces of pressure treated lumber in a bag of MG organic I purchased several months ago. If you want to use a product that has pressure treated lumber in it, then go right ahead.

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I also found a big chunks of wood in the MG as well. Mostly just sticks(some of them quite big though) but roots just grow around them so i didnt think to much of it.