CFL, third grow, bagseed from EXCELLENT bag (popcorn)

I decided to take clones off all my plants today. Some of them are so small I don't even think it will work. I want to find out how small is too small though, so might as well. And I like to make my plants bushy and branchy so even if they fail I won't be too disappointed. I'll just consider it pruning and try them again later when they have bigger branches. I don't know why some of them are so much smaller, and one plant seems to have a P deficiency. They are all in the same soil, but I have a feeling that Miracle Gro soil may not be mixed very well. There are mushrooms always popping up after I water, so I'm pretty sure they are seriously being cheap and cutting corners.

I like to cut my clones right above the third node, and when they have at least two nodes to go into the clone. No other reason than a superstition regarding the number three, and it has never failed me so far. This time I am expecting some failure due to using clones much tinier than any I have worked with before. Also I am using a jiffy tray with all eight clones inside instead of putting each clone in it's own pint glass. (I used to use a beer glass with a rocks glass nested in the top as a lid.) If one of them gets a mold, it may spread to all of them, and if that happens I will go back to the beer glass method. But I will keep my fingers crossed, because I don't want to be delayed the several weeks that would cost me.

Time for pics!! The first one is all the parent plants in their regular home in my closet. Next we have a top-down view of the mommies and daddies in my bathroom, ready for surgery. The third picture is the clones in their peat pellets, and I continued the theme of having four in spring water and four in tap water. I labeled the jiffy tray along the side so I will always know which clone was from which parent. The fourth picture is of the clone tray in their cabinet. The light fixture has two switches one of which controls a 23 watt cfl reptile uv light, which I will leave off until they root. I am starting them at 12/12 because the main point right now is just to sex them, although a nice j out of it would be a good bonus. :jointsmile:

Any comments or suggestions please reply! Thanks everybody! I'll keep you updated when they root or rot. :)

Gently took a peek at a couple of my clones. Looks like the larger ones are starting to root, the smaller ones not yet. The roots I saw were about 1/4 inch long, not too bad after only 5 days. I think I like the jiffy tray, having a little more air space seems to be a benefit.

Like I said before, I won't be too surprised if the smaller ones don't make it, but they still look green and un-wilted, so I've got my fingers crossed. The only bad thing if they don't make it is that I'll be delayed a bit in getting all my plants sexed, which I really want to do quickly. Yeah, I'm impatient. And I don't have room for all my mothers in bigger pots which I want to transplant them to, and some of them have roots coming out the drain holes already.

I added some water today, and I used tap water on all the pellets. I'll go back to the tap-vs-spring experiment once they are in soil again and have separate pots.

Three of my clones had roots coming out of the peat pellet. Time to plant them!!! One clone stays nice and crisp instead of wilting when I open the tray to ventilate, but I don't see any roots so that one will stay a few more days. Here's pics!!

The other four clones are the ones that I thought may be too small to root, although it's only been a week so I'm not giving up on them yet. At least not until their mother plants have enough vegetation to cut them again.

One of the clones is starting to flower. No surprise, the mother plant is also the first one to go alternate leaves. For some reason I am really dumb about the sex, to me it looks ambiguous. I am almost leaning towards female, but I don't see any pistils. Do the pistils appear exactly on time with the first calyxes or do they grow out from the calyx over a day or two?

Anyway, I made the cuttings 13 days ago, and all have rooted except for one, which I knew was the very weakest of all the cuttings. It is still alive though. However, the four which rooted more recently don't have roots big enough that I think I should put them in soil just yet, especially since the soil I am using has time-release ferts. (Yeah, it's the MG soil. Okay, so I get a tad of burn at the tips of some weaker plants, and then there is that period of time when you say "OMG, they're turning yellow! Two months is up! Time to feed! I know the cons of using this stuff, Fox Farm is where it's at, blah blah. I have limited local selection and I don't want to mail-order items intended specifically for cannabis. I live in a nasty bad state. They beat you and throw you in Huntsville for growing if you have to use a public defender.)

Here's pics of the brand-new baby flowers:

Hmmm. I found this picture on weedfarmer.com they say it is a male. http://www.weedfarmer.com/g2.2/main....serialNumber=2 Looking at that I'm pretty sure this is a male. Anyone wanna confirm or deny? Appreciate it, and I don't know why sexing is still so difficult for me in the early stages.. :/ The females have pistils immediately as soon as they appear don't they? I read somewhere, can't remember where, that the first female flowers may not have pistils. Is this true or false? Anyway, if this is a male I'm gonna dry the little chunk at the top in my toaster and smoke it. I know it won't be fantabulous, but when I've been on a tolerance break I have gotten a buzz from fan leaves. It would be better than scraping resin and smoking it anyways. Oh well, one down 7 more to go amirite?

Take my opinion for what its worth. But Im pretty sure your correct about it being male. What parts do you plan on smoking? Just thought Id take note when I have to chop one down

Just from where the flowers are located and higher up, and from the mother plant I will smoke the tips where the leaves aren't folded out yet. I have found that the small, undeveloped leaves have almost as many trichomes as the large leaves. What I mean is, if there are over 9000 trichomes on a fully-grown leaf, there are 8000 on the baby leaf, but so much less actual leaf material to smoke.

I can't recommend it though, it is as good or even worse than shwag dirtweed and is way harsh on the throat. I am just completely dried up and broke at the moment. To me it's one step above smoking resin. And yes, I have smoked vegetative plants before. I am fully aware of how much it will suxxor.

I try to mix in my resin with my last bits of weed if Im scroungin. Its horrible to smoke straight up. I didnt realize the leaves contained trichomes like the buds.

No, not quite like the buds. Instead of a lush carpet of trichomes it's more like a light sprinkling of trichs. But the thing is, there seems to be almost as many on a small leaf as on a big one, but with less actual leaf to smoke. So you can actually get buzzed without choking to death. I can't say it's good, but I have no little bit of shake and I have just a little resin in my pipes.

Anyway, if you look in my pics of these flowers you can see the sparklies. Those are the trichomes. You can tell that they are scattered few and far between.

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No, not quite like the buds. Instead of a lush carpet of trichomes it's more like a light sprinkling of trichs. But the thing is, there seems to be almost as many on a small leaf as on a big one, but with less actual leaf to smoke. So you can actually get buzzed without choking to death. I can't say it's good, but I have no little bit of shake and I have just a little resin in my pipes.

Anyway, if you look in my pics of these flowers you can see the sparklies. Those are the trichomes. You can tell that they are scattered few and far between.

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Yeah I understand ya. If your gonna smoke leaves might as well be choosy about it. Your smaller ones are gonna be denser. Hopefully this holds ya over a little longer til harvest