probably my deepest, interesting thought ever...

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Originally Posted by MPLSweedman

if im wearing a black shirt and i ask you what color it is, your going to say black

that solves it

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Technically speaking, black is every colour mixed together. This makes it a shade, not a colour at all. Same goes for white, it is the absence of colour and therefore also a shade.

Imagine if black and white were colours though.. Charlie Chaplin movies would be fucked up.

i was thinking about this post on other day. i believe that experience creates the perception thus brain creates mind. so i am assuming whats out there which is physical n tangible environment and they are full of different color schemes that is so beautiful and perfect order i know for sure we all see tree same thing n same texture shades color all that shit but our perception on colors is different to individuals. :giggity:

back in the 1600's Rene Descartes wanted to find out what we truely KNOW and well... he came up with:

I think therefore I exist

I'm sure you've heard of that thrown around before

definitely check out his writings
mind blowing stuff :)

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Originally Posted by JohnnyZ

Technically speaking, black is every colour mixed together. This makes it a shade, not a colour at all. Same goes for white, it is the absence of colour and therefore also a shade.

Imagine if black and white were colours though.. Charlie Chaplin movies would be fucked up.

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The interesting thing is how the opposite is true when talking about light. White light split by prism reveals good ol' Roy G Biv.. and black is the absence of all light and thusly all color.

So I guess we could look at it like this: whatever properties give an object its color, lets say whatever makes a shirt red, absorbs every other color and allows red to be reflected back into our eyes. White shirts absorb nothing and allow all the colors to get back to us as one. Black, as we know, absorbs all light.. it is the absense of light and color being reflected into our eyes that allows us to register it as black.

Incidentally, the easiest way to imagine that we all see close to the same color is that it is the same wavelength of light reaching our cornea and visual cortex. Seeing as how we are the same species and genetically very similar, it can be deduced that most of us probably interpret them similarly. However there are clearly some who dont, which may be caused by genetic mutations as opposed to differences in subconscious constructs of perspective.

I too pondered that same thought with many other people. Including a color blind friend of mine. We all see the same color because are eyes respond to the spectrum light of the sun which gives off color and if we couldnt see color we would see gray which is a shade not on the spectrum.My friend sees gray instead of red.Optamoligists can test that.The reason we see black at night is because all the colors combined equals black, no color is white, Gray is a shade of white. So when the sun shines are eyes can differentiate the colors.

actually, the different colors correspond to different wavelengths of light. the whole spectrum of light is white...the lack of light is black. the reason objects have color is because they absorb this light spectrum and either reflect a certain color wavelength or transmit a certain color (like clear red plastic or whatever).

so what i mean is, color is a property of light...nothing inherently has a color. rather, it has pigments or whatever else that reacts with light photons in a way to give the object a color. that is why in absolute darkness you can't make anything out, ie nothing radiates its own color outwards.

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Originally Posted by vej33

but if that person see's differently than you, say, the exact opposite of what you see, they will see what you refer to as WHITE, but have been trained to call it BLACK. so you have not solved anything, friend :smokin:

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I think black and white are the only colors you can be sure of that are the sam for everyone, think about it light and darkness, since our eyes work with light black and white are like the off and on switches of our eyes, white is the most colour we can see and black is the least we can detect(lol stoner talk) I think we all see the same colours we might get other impressions from it (you see with your eyes and your mind so i what you feel/think when u see something is atleast as important as what u are seeing) but what we see is the same, afterall we are all the same intricate machine and we operate with the same kind of "program" that's just my way of looking at it, purely hypothetical ofcourse. I do believe colourperception is different for other kinds of animals (other ways of perception) my 2 cents

why do stoners always think about this. I was driving down the road one day (high ofcourse) and just thought about it with my bud brother for a long time.... its a very interesting topic....

If you really want to go deeper with the colors subject, as well as the subjective nature of color perception variations, read up on a genetic trait called Chromographic synesthesia; my cousin and I both have this type of synesthesia, and basically we "see" our letters, numbers, days of the week, etc. as specific colors. It's not a New Age aura kind of thing, but something that has been documented by several neurology journals.

I don't physically see colors, it's kind of like being in a dark room with a piece of hot pumpkin pie. You can smell the pie, and you get that mental image of a pie in your head? Same thing when I know it's Wednesday, it's a yellow day, or that August is a yellow-green color.

It's not the same for each synesthete- my cousin and I argue all of the time that V is red, no, it's purple, and that Friday isn't orange, it's green! The look on my mom and aunt's faces are priceless when they hear us argue about these kind of things...