Going to start growing w/LED

http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-li...0-details.html

some cross posting hopefully :)

Couple more photos.

Hi Iâ??m new here I plan to start indoor grow I am a second gin grower my grand pop has been growing since 1968 ill touch back on that later I plan on growing with 2 ufos led lights and one 400 watt hid will the hid supplement the leds good frist time with leds ggot ufos for 200$ thats y there not the procloyns? NOW my grand pop has tons of og seed I mean he has a fridge full donâ??t worry the temp is cool a enough to just keep the seeds in great condition he has them all separated and logged I mean original afghan from 1965 and alcompoco gold etc. he was in the army so when he was station in he collected seeds from Germany and other parts of the world morocco hash plant when they took time to select the best plants Vietnam seeds Pakistan ,hawi, parts of china and so on and so on all labeled and separated. Now his been growing in the mountains for more than 35 years and breeding the plants and he log those seeds I mean grow journals stacks of them he has had plants so acclimated that they can sit out in the snow for weeks he has had plants come up completely purple I mean the whole thing from tips leaves to the main trunk SPECS GREEN IN THE BUD LIKE HOW PLANT HAVE SPECS OF PURPLE he has pics of some plants over 18 feet not joking he can he has a gold mine of amazing genetics but his really old fashion so he does not talk to anyone he does not grasp what he has he has seed that breeders die for. true unaffected strains that were thought to be lost to time he could start a seed bank that breeder would buy from because of the gene pool I need to know who to contact so I can preserve this genetics no lie this could revolutionize the growing world. I mean stuff in plant I never seeded before and I have been reading hightimes and in to the pot seen a while smoke the top strains AK-47 Strawberry cough white widow g-13 etc and when I go visit him and smoke some pinners the stuff just floors me I donâ??t know if itâ??s because a lot of the stuff today has a low ratio of cnbs to thc or that a hell of a lot of plant today our what we call white resin weeds want to get his seeds out to the people he could a start a seed bank that original pheno types stuff that no one has I mean no one. If I could get these seed to breeders we could grow long forgotten strains like Asian girl this would be great. I thought of name all ready old school seeds lol. But seriously he is getting old I have to do something sorry to jack your post how do I post mine I canâ??t find out how to do it or I would of PLEASE HELP ME OUT to get these seeds out to people email me at [email protected]

:rastasmoke::hippy::thumbsup: ps best a luck to your grow man

Well, I am ready to pick this thread back up, but waiting for some stability on the servers. My grow is going better and plant is happy. I added 2 CFL's and a 100 watt incandescent, but have kept the 100 watt incandescent off most of the time. I will get some photos together soon.

Here's my latest photos. I added two 23W CFL's and a 100W Incandescent Grow bulb to the Procyon. I leave the 100W off most of the time except to generate some heat if it's too cold or wet.

I water the plant twice a day, and I am planning to switch to a bubbler to speed along the growth rate once I learn more about DWC. I am growing tired of checking the plant 3-4 times a day to make sure it has enough water and isn't drying up too much. It went 36 hours without any attention and that dried it up a bit, but I pruned what burned.

Also, this plant started as a tiny baby clone on January 28th. The first plant from december dried out and died days after I got it. Yes, I am a newb.

I am open to suggestions, so please let me know if you have any ideas. Also the strain is "bubblegum."

I've got a Procyon and have used just about everything, including a 400w. HPS, along with it.

Your plant looks rootbound. Get that baby into a 1 gal pot with good soil (Fox Farms Ocean Forest with an extra spritz of perlite has always served me well, tho' some knowledgeable folks around here don't care for it) unless you have some plan to convert this to a DWC grow somehow.

Watering twice a day will turn your soil to muck and essentially drown your plants. The soil needs to dry out a bit. Not so much that it shrinks and cracks, but in an appropriate sized pot, watering every 2 to 4 days (depending on a HUGE set of variables--temperature, wind/air circulation, ambient humidity, soil mix, etc) is more in the ballpark.

One sign that you're getting rootbound is that the plant won't "take" any water. It just flows out of the container because the root mass won't hold water like soil does. So your plant dries out too quickly.

Another sign is the plant gets yellow, like it's starving for Nitrogen. Rootboundness interferes with nutrient uptake, so even if you've got nutes in your soil, the plant can't effectively use them. Yer baby needs a new house! :rasta:

If you do continue this plant in soil, it will be ready to transplant AGAIN (I'd go up to a 3 gal pot) in prolly less than 2 weeks. Plants like to be transplanted if you do it right. :thumbsup:

Your CFL's and incand are way too far away. All they are doing out there is adding heat to your grow environment. If you expect any benefit from them (and a lot of us have done this experiment) they need to be INCHES away--not feet. Basically, as close as you can get 'em without heating up your plant too much, and without blocking the light from your Procyon. Some crude reflectors for your CFLs will help, too. If you're lighting up things that aren't plants (like your ceiling) you're wasting light energy. ;)

Hope this helps. If you are staying in soil I can help you with the transplanting. Good Luck, Hermie

On the CFL's. Those are fine. Fan's in a good spot, too.

Here's some updated pics following your recommendations, Hermie.

I know the pot is probably not 1 gallon, but it's bigger than the 16oz cup I had before, and yes the roots were all around the outside edge of the cup.

Ouch. She looks sick. If she's not looking better in about 3-4 days, you might need to take another look at the roots.

You always want to avoid damaging your root hairs. That's where the real action is, and they're very fragile. You don't even wanna touch 'em if you don't have to. But marijuana roots sometimes start spiraling around in a small container, and even when the plant's repotted, the roots keep growing in that spiral and the plant stays "rootbound." :wtf:

If your roots don't start reaching into the new soil, sometimes they need to be carefully "fluffed up" to break them out of their pattern. Like I said, you want to avoid molesting your roots when possible. Just trying to throw something out there in case your girl doesn't look any better by say, Thursday. At that point, I think I'd look again at those roots. If they look like they're making their own little ice cream cone (shape) you may need to tease 'em a little. ;)

Your goal is to always have your roots nearly filling your container. They go where they find water, so don't water right down the stem of your plant if it's in a brand-new big container. Water where you think the ends of the roots are and try and coax the roots into exploring the new medium. There's nothing skankier than a little bitty rootball in a big, wet pot. The outer reaches of the pot never dry out, and the soil gets like dead, oxygen deficient, stagnant water. :(

And get those CFL's in there close--don't be shy. Those are tender baby clones in the red cups, and they're not getting fried. (Kids, do not make a ghetto reflector out of tin foil wrapped around the ballast of the CFL. Definitely not safe, and prolly only marginally effective. Not a permanent fixture.) :D

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