What is meant by "commercial" weed?
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Originally Posted by Gotabud
Correct me if I'm wrong, please. I'm trying really hard to understand this..
The "nug" as you refer to it is better tasting, smelling, feeling weed than commercial. It's been handled better after harvest, trimmed better, usually grown better with better genetics. If you've ever grown, or really even smoked much at all you can tell...Because of the amount of time and care it takes to produce the dank, a lot of mass growers settle for lower grade final product because it's not worth the effort to make it better.
I don't think you understand how little it takes to turn potentially great bud into almost garbage weed. When growing on a large scale there's bound to be mistakes like hermaphrodites, improper harvesting/drying times, little to no cure, damaged trichomes from rough/hasty handling, etc. Just because it's a high potency strain doesn't mean that it'll be good for any grower.
The way you put it is like calling a steak a steak, no matter what cut or how fresh it is. If you can taste, smell, feel, and see the difference then why don't you accept it? If you can't then I'm sorry for you because it's obvious when you get the good stuff.
I'd rather buy an oz of some kb than 5 or 6 oz of brick for the same price: it smokes way smoother & tastes better, doesn't smell like cat piss or something awful like that, takes a lot less to get to the sweet spot, the high lasts at least an hour as opposed to 15 minutes or so, has way better "bag appeal", and is way less likely to have unknown additives. It feels a lot cleaner and nicer without the stress headaches. Not to mention the smokable weight per oz...seeds weigh like 1/6th of a gram last time I checked so with 30+ seeds in an oz of brick you're only getting maybe 23 grams minus the stems if you're lucky. Plus at least with me I'm less tollerant of the better grade, meaning it keeps doing it's job instead of having to smoke more each time to achieve the same effect.
I hope this helps to educate you on the economics of the trade and why better quality is worth more...
What is meant by "commercial" weed?
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Originally Posted by redtails
The "nug" as you refer to it is better tasting, smelling, feeling weed than commercial. It's been handled better after harvest, trimmed better, usually grown better with better genetics. If you've ever grown, or really even smoked much at all you can tell...Because of the amount of time and care it takes to produce the dank, a lot of mass growers settle for lower grade final product because it's not worth the effort to make it better.
I don't think you understand how little it takes to turn potentially great bud into almost garbage weed. When growing on a large scale there's bound to be mistakes like hermaphrodites, improper harvesting/drying times, little to no cure, damaged trichomes from rough/hasty handling, etc. Just because it's a high potency strain doesn't mean that it'll be good for any grower.
The way you put it is like calling a steak a steak, no matter what cut or how fresh it is. If you can taste, smell, feel, and see the difference then why don't you accept it? If you can't then I'm sorry for you because it's obvious when you get the good stuff.
I'd rather buy an oz of some kb than 5 or 6 oz of brick for the same price: it smokes way smoother & tastes better, doesn't smell like cat piss or something awful like that, takes a lot less to get to the sweet spot, the high lasts at least an hour as opposed to 15 minutes or so, has way better "bag appeal", and is way less likely to have unknown additives. It feels a lot cleaner and nicer without the stress headaches. Not to mention the smokable weight per oz...seeds weigh like 1/6th of a gram last time I checked so with 30+ seeds in an oz of brick you're only getting maybe 23 grams minus the stems if you're lucky. Plus at least with me I'm less tollerant of the better grade, meaning it keeps doing it's job instead of having to smoke more each time to achieve the same effect.
I hope this helps to educate you on the economics of the trade and why better quality is worth more...
THANK YOU BRO!! Exactly... I was speaking from personal experience, not "research"
What is meant by "commercial" weed?
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Originally Posted by Gotabud
Okay, you say that nug is the cannabis with the most THC in it, but logic already shows that mass growers are almost surely NOT growing a strain with the lowest potency and are actually probably growing strains of mid- or high-potency. At the same time, people who are interested in the type of high are not necessarily interested in the most THC, otherwise they would all be growing the highest potency strains ONLY, which they are not. So nug is actually not always the bud with the most THC in it. Correct me if I'm wrong, please. I'm trying really hard to understand this..
Also, people seem to correlate hydroponically grown cannabis with THC potency, which is also not necessarily true. It can be assumed that more care was given hydro, but the growing medium being water or dirt alone isn't enough to change anything. All the extra care would mean is that the cannabis was nurtured into the high end of its potency range (15-20%), which is equally as obtainable in soil. You can't insult commercial by saying it was grown in the ground.
In my opinion, the high probably doesn't vary as much as people think. It's mostly just the placebo effect and prejudice. It's kind of strange to me that the only thing people know about the different grades of weed are what they look, smell, and taste like, the high they're supposed to give, and how much they cost.
dude, really?? you think someone would pay up to to 75% more for some bud that gave them the same high they coulda got with some schwag? please bro, give me a break... read my mans post above me a couple spots. he hits it dead on. I never said anything about bud being grown in soil as not yielding as much THC as bud grown in a hydro set. It boils down to this.. Brick weed is for pure profit, yes it will get you high, but to the everday or often smoker, it's a waste of money. compare that to some high grade kill, was most likely grown by someone who is also a smoker and enjoys the high quality of the product as well as a little profit. It's just like anything you grow, the better care you take while growing it the better product.. If you ust go throw some seeds in the ground and expect to yield high potency THC without an care at all you are sadly mistaken. therefore the brick weed is pretty much all profit because nature did all the work.
What is meant by "commercial" weed?
also, wtf is a l33t smoker? that's probably the gayest shit i've ever heard. some high school bullshit
What is meant by "commercial" weed?
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Originally Posted by redtails
The "nug" as you refer to it is better tasting, smelling, feeling weed than commercial. It's been handled better after harvest, trimmed better, usually grown better with better genetics. If you've ever grown, or really even smoked much at all you can tell...Because of the amount of time and care it takes to produce the dank, a lot of mass growers settle for lower grade final product because it's not worth the effort to make it better.
I don't think you understand how little it takes to turn potentially great bud into almost garbage weed. When growing on a large scale there's bound to be mistakes like hermaphrodites, improper harvesting/drying times, little to no cure, damaged trichomes from rough/hasty handling, etc. Just because it's a high potency strain doesn't mean that it'll be good for any grower.
The way you put it is like calling a steak a steak, no matter what cut or how fresh it is. If you can taste, smell, feel, and see the difference then why don't you accept it? If you can't then I'm sorry for you because it's obvious when you get the good stuff.
It isn't 5-6oz:1oz; it's 8-9oz:1oz*
Also, it isn't calling a steak a steak. It's paying $15 for a Filet Mignon from an "okay" restaurant instead of $150 for a steak that may only be twice as good from a top-of-the-line restaurant. Even if it clearly tastes better, has been taken care of, is more emotionally satisfying, it still isn't really worth anywhere near the money, and the people who choose to buy it will always be grossly overpaying. The difference is that nug is sold at a market value that is supposedly at least somewhat worth it.
So have we all agreed that "garbage weed" is, at worst, 10% potency (as described by seedbanks; I don't really know what exactly that means), and that, on average, nug will probably only double that (20%)?
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I'd rather buy an oz of some kb than 5 or 6 oz of brick for the same price: it smokes way smoother & tastes better, doesn't smell like cat piss or something awful like that, takes a lot less to get to the sweet spot, the high lasts at least an hour as opposed to 15 minutes or so, has way better "bag appeal", and is way less likely to have unknown additives. It feels a lot cleaner and nicer without the stress headaches. Not to mention the smokable weight per oz...seeds weigh like 1/6th of a gram last time I checked so with 30+ seeds in an oz of brick you're only getting maybe 23 grams minus the stems if you're lucky. Plus at least with me I'm less tollerant of the better grade, meaning it keeps doing it's job instead of having to smoke more each time to achieve the same effect.
Assuming THC content was relatively the same, the highs should have very similar durations, unless you can identify any other specific reasons to suggest otherwise.
What do you mean by "stress headaches"? I would assume that if commercially grown crop gave you headaches over nug, it was probably the "additives" that you spoke of.
Smokable weight per oz might actually be lower in nug, even considering the seeds in commercial, since the strong odor and sometimes even stickiness indicates it wasn't properly dried.
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I hope this helps to educate you on the economics of the trade and why better quality is worth more...
I'm trying to prove that the difference in highs is mostly just the placebo effect. Yes, I felt like I could tell the difference between commercial and nug, but I was also always informed before coming to that conclusion, so I was expecting a difference.
Also, speaking from experience is deceptive for the very reason I'm trying to prove. YOU are not a credible source, because you are under the impression there really IS a difference and therefore are far more likely to fall victim to the placebo effect. (You = general audience)
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Originally Posted by RelaxaBIT
also, wtf is a l33t smoker? that's probably the gayest shit i've ever heard. some high school bullshit
A l33t smoker is a "seasoned pro," a "veteran," etc., who takes on an elitist attitude. Anyone who claims to be a l33t smoker better know what they're talking about or admit when they're unsure, otherwise they'll look like a fool when they're proven wrong. I guess experience hasn't taught them as much as they thought ;). Also, do your math right. It isn't paying 75% more... It's paying 750-900% more...
What is meant by "commercial" weed?
lol anyone claiming to be an 'elite smoker' is a douche bag... beware cannabis posers
What is meant by "commercial" weed?
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Originally Posted by Gotabud
It isn't 5-6oz:1oz; it's 8-9oz:1oz*
Also, it isn't calling a steak a steak. It's paying $15 for a Filet Mignon from an "okay" restaurant instead of $150 for a steak that may only be twice as good from a top-of-the-line restaurant. Even if it clearly tastes better, has been taken care of, is more emotionally satisfying, it still isn't really worth anywhere near the money, and the people who choose to buy it will always be grossly overpaying. The difference is that nug is sold at a market value that is supposedly at least somewhat worth it.
So have we all agreed that "garbage weed" is, at worst, 10% potency (as described by seedbanks; I don't really know what exactly that means), and that, on average, nug will probably only double that (20%)?
Assuming THC content was relatively the same, the highs should have very similar durations, unless you can identify any other specific reasons to suggest otherwise.
What do you mean by "stress headaches"? I would assume that if commercially grown crop gave you headaches over nug, it was probably the "additives" that you spoke of.
Smokable weight per oz might actually be lower in nug, even considering the seeds in commercial, since the strong odor and sometimes even stickiness indicates it wasn't properly dried.
I'm trying to prove that the difference in highs is mostly just the placebo effect. Yes, I felt like I could tell the difference between commercial and nug, but I was also always informed before coming to that conclusion, so I was expecting a difference.
Also, speaking from experience is deceptive for the very reason I'm trying to prove. YOU are not a credible source, because you are under the impression there really IS a difference and therefore are far more likely to fall victim to the placebo effect. (You = general audience)
A l33t smoker is a "seasoned pro," a "veteran," etc., who takes on an elitist attitude. Anyone who claims to be a l33t smoker better know what they're talking about or admit when they're unsure, otherwise they'll look like a fool when they're proven wrong. I guess experience hasn't taught them as much as they thought ;). Also, do your math right. It isn't paying 75% more... It's paying 750-900% more...
BWHAHAHAHA... dude, all i can do is laugh.. you sir are a douche. I can tell by your posts. Anyone that says they are an "elite" smoker is just as queer as you are. You are not going to "prove the placebo effect" because you are wrong. In fact, just by reading your response to posters, you are clueless. Keep going by your scientific methods and your hypothesis and all that shit because you are wrong. plain and simple. I'm done wasting my time on you, goodbye!
btw, way to catch the sarcasm when i said "75%" I couldnt give a shit how much more it is, the fact is, if it was just a placebo effect, people wouldnt spend their time or money trying to get better pot or grow better pot if the same was achieved from brick weed. Also, I've been smoking everyday for about 7 years and I've never heard of anyone claim themselves to be a l33t smoker, this isn't some gay internet language we are talking about pal. I seriously would love to meet you some day just so I could laugh at you. hahaha what a clownnnn
now I will go smoke my NUGS out of my bong and get my placebo high... goodbye now! hahaha:rastasmoke:
What is meant by "commercial" weed?
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Originally Posted by sarah louise
lol anyone claiming to be an 'elite smoker' is a douche bag... beware cannabis posers
hahhaha QFT!! so true, so true.. and anyone claiming to know the definition of "l33t smokers" is just as equal a douche.. My stomach hurts from laughin so hard.:D
What is meant by "commercial" weed?
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Originally Posted by NGC1300
I'm assuming this means imported????
I paid $50 for 1/4oz, and while it gets me high, it just doesn't seem as euphoric as some of the stuff I'd been getting from a buddy of mine.
correct it is imported:rastasmoke:
What is meant by "commercial" weed?
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Originally Posted by needforweed
correct it is imported:rastasmoke:
anyone here answer
