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Originally Posted by RamblerGambler
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Originally Posted by RamblerGambler
That was good, i needed that!:vap_smiley:
what happened was an attempt to draft a post cold war foreign policy. The one which was adopted was that of American global hegemony...three parts: dissuasion, reassurance, and non-proliferation.Quote:
Originally Posted by maladroit
dissuasion is building up the army and country so vastly that nobody could even dream of attacking, knowing their fate...
reassurance is getting other nations to put down their weapons, and in return for not questioning american global hegemony, they are offered protection by the US(militarily, economically...depends on "how good you were")
finally, non-proliferation is designed to keep nations from building any nuclear weaponry which could be used elsewhere...the US doesn't want to have to showdown with some third world nation to deter its use of nukes. and it is designed to keep regional stability. hence we saw the destruction of a syrian "nuclear base" in 2006. thats an example of the non-proliferation tenet of the strategy for american global hegemony.
Basically the US is a parent which keeps all its kids(the rest of the world) from doing stuff it doesn't like.
Source for this info is "The American Way of Strategy" by Michael Lind. Give it a read....
p.s. economically, america is FAR from the top. and it will only continue to decline.
sorry to bear bad news.
Moral compass doesn't even matter when it comes to World Domination. Caesar? Napoleon? Alexander The Great? Do you think any of these leaders gave a damn about morality? Absolutely not. They had a hunger for power, which is why they became phenominal, powerful leaders.Quote:
Originally Posted by maladroit
Infact I wish America has a more decadent moral compass, we can stop subsidizing defense for other countries, since these serfs accepts gifts and continue to bitch. Let them drown in arabs, not our problem.
great idea! that would save the federal government about $25 billion in foreign aid...the serfs would have less to bitch about if the federal government didn't spend 10 times that much to beat on foreign countries and interfere in their politics/economies...then the feds would have even more money to spend on stopping american serfs from bitching...a receding tide lowers all bitching!
If war wasn't profitable, no one would go to war. America will make far more off the war in 100 years when you consider job creation + security, growth, reconstruction contracts and securing oil resources. It's where all the money is at, for every government defense job created, there are 4-5 more created from the private sector to support the effort. America economy has been vastly dependent on the military & law enforcement and the cracks are starting to show. America has to change it's overall philosophy in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by maladroit
The Soviet Union was worse, but really, the shit America's pulled with Haiti, Cuba, Iran, the Congo, backing the Indonesian slaughter in East Timor...there's a very long list of very, very ugly deeds undertaken for the natiomal interest. And the U.S. tanks have pressed forward, on an economic level at least, throughout the entire world.Quote:
Originally Posted by apocolips31
Historically, the nation on the winning side will demand some sort of war reperations to counter balance the gdp that flows out of the US economy and into the country that has been defeated.Quote:
Originally Posted by thcbongman
Until recently, the dominating country has done very little to rebuild the conquered country.
America's economy, in my opinion, is heavily dependent on consumption, and requires up to a certain point (which we have crossed) debt financing to keep up production. Using credit to purchase a big ticket item (such as a car or hot tub) is not a bad thing, its using credit to purchase gasoline, food, and entertainment is very bad!Quote:
It's where all the money is at, for every government defense job created, there are 4-5 more created from the private sector to support the effort. America economy has been vastly dependent on the military & law enforcement and the cracks are starting to show. America has to change it's overall philosophy in my opinion.
Its the periods of inactivity that allow its military industrial complex to help prosperity flourish. After the Persian Gulf War, the satalite frequencies used were then purchased via private investment, and were turned into what we now call cell phones:vap_smiley:
Exactly just like I said, America is NOT perfect. It has it's dark side like most countries, but for a country that can invade just about whoever it wants and take them over. We are doing a good job as world leader. Most countries probably would have tried to take over the world by now, in the military sense not economically. Which is understandable, who doesn't want to have a strong economy and pull their people out of poverty?
Of course the winning side should demand some kind of reparations. You roll the dice on war, you win, you gets all the awards, you lose, well you are screwed. Everyone can talk about the bad morality behind the Iraq war, but which country is powerful enough that they'd threaten the US in any form whether diplomatically, economically or military? No one.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenBoy812
One of these reparations is economic favortism. The war maybe have been decided unilaterally but every country apart of the multi-national coalition wanted a piece of the pie. Just to have a western presence in the western world is untapped economic potential, although risky because it been a worn-torn region for a couple of centuries. Right now it's too dangerous to foster a free market and given the history of the middle east, there's a culture of religious oppression that tainted the mentality of millions upon millions. This is GWB we speak of and too optimistic on his prognosis.
The reconstruction efforts in a scale of things are minimal. However for a country, those reconstruction efforts became adapted and perhaps the most modern thing that exists. A great example is Ethiopia and the city Addis Ababa. The short-time the Italians colonized, they built buildings, roads and helped to modernize Ethiopia a bit. Occupiers can do great things even during the war. It's just distracted by news of another car bombing.
I agree with you, consumerism has the greatest role to play in this. When the US continues perpetual growth, an average of 3% a year and keeps growing, so does the military budget. Every year, it has seen an increase. Whether we collect in the end does not matter because military money is being pumped into the economy constantly and it trickles through the economy. Ordinarily it's hardly a dent in the economic engine, but when you put out an effort such as war? Which require logistics, coordination and deployment of soldiers? Those are costly efforts, which require not only efforts from the military, but the private industry as well. When the US went into Iraq, that's the day the stock market turned around, and continued to grow for a few more years. The money is flowing.
Now it's drying up. And I disagree, they are a vast amount of projects that the government and private industries work together for innovation regardless of whether military engagements are active or not. There's an entire industry dedicated to it and they'll continue to be responsible for innovation such as cell phones. Private industry tends to go at it alone until they realize they should not utilize their own capital solely, but rather suck off the government's tit. That's what telecoms figured out. Hey it's happening for banks too now, isn't it?
Viciously fucking over any country or leader not on par with the American vision of an economic world order is not "doing a good job". For all its talk of freedom and democracy, the U.S. backs dictators who are in their interest (i.e. Batista), overthrows elected leaders with a different agenda (i.e. Lumumba, Mosaddeq, Aristide), keeps the Israeli boot firmly on the Palestinian face, financially backed the East Timor slaughter, keeps DEA offices everywhere to ensure their moral panic drug agenda is being followed, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by apocolips31
I do not call that a "good job";I call that a disgrace. The idea that any other country would be more brutal is just American propaganda concerning the virtues of its dark global economic despotism.