Welcome to socialism, boys and girls...

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Originally Posted by maladroit

does that mean you meant to type "osama-tinted glasses"?

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Quite often I say exactly what I mean. :jointsmile:

I have no problem bashing a candidate that has been bought, paid for, packaged and marketed under a false-hope prophecy.

Is there anyone out there that really believes that the three horsemen of the appocalyse (Reid, Pelosi and Osama) are going to lower your taxes...? You really think they'll uphold our constitution...? The son of a bitch can't even keep his campaign promise of accepting public funds, and have tried their best to:
Restrict free trade. (a Clinton creation)
Restrict gun ownership.
Restrict child rights via the botched partial-birth abortion bills.
Restrict womens rights via the Hillary and Palin-bashing that still goes on to this day.
Restrict free and open access to the media, now that the president has been set.

So since the name calling is ongoing:

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Originally Posted by Ramulux

... I don't understand how anybody could watch that interview and not realize what a complete moron that woman is.

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You mean the "complete moron" (Barbara West - Barbara West - WFTV News Story - WFTV Orlando that was was assistant to one of the more well-known reporters, Peter Jennings (World News Tonight anchor) for over a decade. Since she showed that not all of the media has been bought, (or cowed) it makes her a complete moron...? That, my friend is a moronic statement itself. She asked some tough questions about Obiden campaigns recent statements, not taken out of context...not embellished upon...but words from the candidates mouths that needed further explaining.
Exactly along the Osama playbook...Defend the messiah by bashing those that dare to stand opposed.
Just this year, Y'all have done it to Hillary, Palin, West, and every woman that has the brains and balls enough to speak her mind...

I for one have a problem with the fact Osama will sit-down unconditionally with Ahmadinejad, but will block media access to the administration because of a couple of embarrasing hardball questions. What kind of a convoluted policy is that? (socialist)

And fyi, Helen Thomas often asked socialist questions of Bush, not whether or not he was one. (being a socialist herself, she already knew the answer to that one) but that wasn't the point either. Regardless of her moronic questions, she was never refused entry or access.

if you think obama is the equivalent of osama, then anyone who supports obama is supporting osama, which means the majority of americans support terrorism

do you believe that? i don't

helen thomas asks socialist questions? what is a socialist question?

george bush (a real socialist who nationalized half of wall street) doesn't even answer questions anymore...in the middle of a once-in-a-century global crisis, he makes the occasional two minute speech telling everyone to stop complaining and suck his socialism up and then dashes away before the reporters can ask him anything

Actually, since the liberal nuts continue to openly bash Palin, Hillary, Joe the Plumber, and any that don't fit their mold...I'll continue to reciprocate in an equally childish way.

Nice spin about Bush, too. But it doesn't even come close, and he isn't even running for office. Back to the candidate, tho...Do you doubt McCains tendencies to cross the aisle to get meaningful legislation passed? Do you recall any single piece of legislation that B. Hussein Obama has authored. (or even voted on, lol) How many presidents, when faced with a significant crisis like the mortgage meltdown, would choose to sit by the phone in the hopes that someone uses him as a phone-a-friend? (hint: not the responsible one)

Why not tell us which candidate called for tighter govt. control of Fanny Mae and Freddie Mac in 2006...back when something less drastic would be needed to avoid a mortgage meltdown? The osama media darlings are still trying to play this one down, as a couple of his advisors (Raines, Johnson...) were umong the early CEO's reaping hundreds of millions in combined bonuses, and salaries, on a failed mortgage system the democrats refused to regulate.

McCain called for reform of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae in May, 2006, video of Fannie Mae CEO calling Obama and Dems family «

i read your link - mccain was calling for *accounting* reforms for fannie and freddie...that wouldn't have done anything to stop the subprime crisis...george bush personally leaned on fannie and freddie to issue more subprime loans AFTER mccain's sponsored those reforms...mccain was nowhere to be seen then (except for his shoes poking out of george bush's ass)

bush isn't running for office...he IS in office and he owes the american people and the rest of the world a lot more face time to answer questions about what he is doing about the global crisis he helped cause

Fun Stuff Rusty!
Yes, usually socialist regimes use censorship, media manipulation, etc... in conjunction with "secret police".
I bet you have a reference handy about Osama's hopes for that as well.:jointsmile:
You are right.
Good for you for trying to talk sense, but they can't hear anything over all the baa baaa baaa, if you know what I mean.:D

Awww..... Sorry guys. Ignorance, unsubstantiated rumors and unfounded fear isn't working this time. What else have ya' got? :what:

It seems the Republican party has this guy as it's cheerleader nowadays.

The hate is really spewing forth from these posts.

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Originally Posted by maladroit

i read your link - mccain was calling for *accounting* reforms for fannie and freddie...that wouldn't have done anything to stop the subprime crisis...george bush personally leaned on fannie and freddie to issue more subprime loans AFTER mccain's sponsored those reforms...mccain was nowhere to be seen then (except for his shoes poking out of george bush's ass)

bush isn't running for office...he IS in office and he owes the american people and the rest of the world a lot more face time to answer questions about what he is doing about the global crisis he helped cause

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Again...no mention about the dems shooting-down the bill McCain co-sponsored. (by not bringing it to the floor for a vote) You don't seem interested in accuracy, so here's a recap of the bill:
The overview of S. 190 (109th):
S. 190 [109th]: Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005 (GovTrack.us)
1/26/2005--Introduced.
Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005 - Amends the Federal Housing Enterprises Financial Safety and Soundness Act of 1992 to establish: (1) in lieu of the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight of the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD), an independent Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Agency which shall have authority over the Federal Home Loan Bank Finance Corporation, the Federal Home Loan Banks, the Federal National Mortgage Association (Fannie Mae), and the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation (Freddie Mac); and (2) the Federal Housing Enterprise Board.
Sets forth operating, administrative, and regulatory provisions of the Agency, including provisions respecting: (1) assessment authority; (2) authority to limit nonmission-related assets; (3) minimum and critical capital levels; (4) risk-based capital test; (5) capital classifications and undercapitalized enterprises; (6) enforcement actions and penalties; (7) golden parachutes; and (8) reporting.
Amends the Federal Home Loan Bank Act to establish the Federal Home Loan Bank Finance Corporation. Transfers the functions of the Office of Finance of the Federal Home Loan Banks to such Corporation.
Excludes the Federal Home Loan Banks from certain securities reporting requirements.
Abolishes the Federal Housing Finance Board.
S. 190 [109th] - Summary: Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005 (GovTrack.us)
Accounting reforms, huh...? Sorry...I don't just roll-over and play stupid.

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Originally Posted by allrollsin21

It seems the Republican party has this guy as it's cheerleader nowadays.

The hate is really spewing forth from these posts.

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I'd rather cheerlead for those policies I deem important, than blindly follow a false prophet to the edges of Chicago. Parroting the blogs, avoiding intelligent discourse with blind attacks, inuendo and as you put it...hate.

"Again...no mention about the dems shooting-down the bill McCain co-sponsored."

- i have blamed the dems for their role in the subprime crisis on this forum...why would i bring it up again when replying to false claims that john mccain tried to prevent the subprime crisis? check out this nov/07 interview in which mccain states that laissez faire capitalism leads to corruption, he doesn't know much about economics, and that nobody on his staff including him anticipated the subprime crisis:

"Iâ??d like to tell you that I did anticipate it, but I have to give you straight talk, I did not."
- John McCain, last few seconds of the following interview
John McCain - Sentinel Interview 11/4/07 NHElects.com



"Accounting reforms, huh...? Sorry...I don't just roll-over and play stupid."

- fine...then explain why john mccain would state his support for the bill by saying:

Mr. President, this week Fannie Mae's regulator reported that the company's quarterly reports of profit growth over the past few years were "illusions deliberately and systematically created" by the company's senior management, which resulted in a $10.6 billion ACCOUNTING scandal.

The Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight's report goes on to say that Fannie Mae employees deliberately and INTENTIONALLY MANIPULATED FINANCIAL REPORTS to hit earnings targets in order to trigger bonuses for senior executives. In the case of Franklin Raines, Fannie Mae's former chief executive officer, OFHEO's report shows that over half of Mr. Raines' compensation for the 6 years through 2003 was directly tied to meeting earnings targets. The report of FINANCIAL MISCONDUCT at Fannie Mae echoes the deeply troubling $5 billion profit restatement at Freddie Mac.

The OFHEO report also states that Fannie Mae used its political power to lobby Congress in an effort to interfere with the regulator's examination of the company's ACCOUNTING PROBLEMS. This report comes some weeks after Freddie Mac paid a record $3.8 million fine in a settlement with the Federal Election Commission and RESTATED LOBBYING DISCLOSURE REPORTS from 2004 to 2005. These are entities that have demonstrated over and over again that they are deeply in need of reform.

For years I have been concerned about the regulatory structure that governs Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac--known as Government-sponsored entities or GSEs--and the sheer magnitude of these companies and the role they play in the housing market. OFHEO's report this week does nothing to ease these concerns. In fact, the report does quite the contrary. OFHEO's report solidifies my view that the GSEs need to be reformed without delay.

I join as a cosponsor of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190, to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE regulatory reform legislation. If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole.

I urge my colleagues to support swift action on this GSE reform legislation.

mccain's speech here:
GovTrack: Senate Record: FEDERAL HOUSING ENTERPRISE REGULATORY REFORM... (109-s20060525-16)




the reality is that john mccain is an economic dunce who didn't see any of this coming, and his call to reform fannie and freddie was based on their accounting fraud

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Originally Posted by maladroit

For years I have been concerned about the regulatory structure that governs Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac--known as Government-sponsored entities or GSEs--and the sheer magnitude of these companies and the role they play in the housing market. OFHEO's report this week does nothing to ease these concerns. In fact, the report does quite the contrary. OFHEO's report solidifies my view that the GSEs need to be reformed without delay.

I join as a cosponsor of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190, to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE regulatory reform legislation. If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole.

I urge my colleagues to support swift action on this GSE reform legislation.

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Are you reading the same documents you present here? Altho accounting practices were among the problems noted, this bill was aimed to regulate the structure that governs FM and FM, not just their accounting defeciencies/fraud. Sounds to me like he hit the bullseye. A far cry from the socialist dunce the dems are shoving down our throats.