Didn't McCain say something about how he was gonna "Lick Obama in the dabate?"
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Didn't McCain say something about how he was gonna "Lick Obama in the dabate?"
Remember when Bush snuck up on German Chancellor Merkel and freaked her out by massaging her back? What if McCain did this to her? We'd probably go to War with Germany! Is that what we want? Can we risk it?
Joe the plumber only represents 5% of Americans who would be taxed and they make 250,000 a year anyway, no sympathy from me, they're trying to make it appear Obama is 'crushing the american dream' absolute garbage. Obama will cut taxes for 95% of Americans, who are middle and lower class, the people who make more can afford to pay more. Oil companies it's time to use your land or lose your land. I think Obama won that debate and every debate because i think his policies are superior. Why hasn't Mccain talked more about helping people in to college? Because he called these people 'interest groups' they are the future! His health plan is flawed, the average health insurance bill is 12,000 Obama said, well how is that 5000 gonna help, it's a deficit of 7,000. About Obamas record and voting present, he explained that well in the roe v wade section which i won't repeat. Mcangry got pissed about being like Bush, but it's his record, 4 out of 5 of the last economic policies voted for and foreign policies he supported bush. I'm very optimistic for the future of America if Obama wins. Vote Obama 08 :D
Why should small business get a break? Who do you think is going to absorb the final cost of tax increases to the oil companies and the rest of businesses that would take this tax hit? THE CONSUMER that's who!Quote:
Originally Posted by Reefer Rogue
Hey small business making lets say $300,000; your taxes will increase and after that you'll be required to get into this socialist health care system for all employees. NOW create some jobs after the hit. Makes perfect sense to me.
Under Obama's "college plan" he'll give a kick for education but these people have to do a certain amount of time in a national service program after graduation. VERY NICE, we get to pay for ANOTHER government agency to moderate and enforce this.
You want big government? Don't bitch when Uncle Sam wants to play daddy and dictate what you can or cannot do with your life.
Have a good one!:s4:
Where have YOU been the last 8 years? Big government is preeeeeeetty standard after 9/11, and we practically BEGGED for it in the name of national security.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
first off oil companies have made more money in 1 quarter than over many many years. so they deserve to pay higher taxes, hell oil is trading around low 70's a barrel and were still paying $3 a gallon, but when oil is 150 a barrel its $4 a barrel, those profits are fraudulent gains
as for healthcare, bush and the republicans have made it harder to get healthcare, and prices have rised. and on top of that mccain wants to put an extra 5000 TAX ON YOU, and that tax on healthcare has never been there,
as far as your big government comment, look at your beloved party that has illegally stepped around the constitution and put illegal laws in place
i think its funny how there are so many attacks against politics from both sides, but 1 side in paticular attacks and complains and just runs back to the republicans and theres abunch attacking both sides and being labeled as democrats. its complete nonsense on how blind people are
and by the way
IM NOT VOTING FOR A DEM OR REP BECAUSE THEY ARE THE PROBLEM WITH POLITICS IN AMERICA
By Andrea Hopkins
CINCINNATI (Reuters) - After Republican John McCain and Democrat Barack Obama made him into the most famous plumber in America, it turns out Joe Wurzelbacher isn't a licensed plumber after all. Oh, and his real name is Sam.
The morning after he emerged as the unexpected star of Wednesday evening's U.S. presidential debate, Samuel "Joe" Wurzelbacher of Holland, Ohio, found himself at the center of a media frenzy, with reporters camped out on his front lawn and his phone ringing off the hook.
But it wasn't long before the Association of Plumbers, Steamfitters and Service Mechanics revealed that Wurzelbacher was not a licensed member of their trade.
"That means that he has not completed the training program necessary for him to sit for a license test," said Tony Herrera, market recovery specialist for Plumbers and Steamfitters Local 50 in Toledo, Ohio.
"It's a shame that this guy has ended up in this situation because it seems like he's misrepresented himself -- and for that matter the plumbing and pipefitting industry."
Without a license, Wurzelbacher cannot practice in the city of Toledo but can work for someone with a master's license or in outlying areas that do not require a license, Herrera said.
Wurzelbacher, 34, listed in the phone directory as Samuel, did not answer his phone and his voicemail box appeared to be full. Reporters at his home said he had driven away.
Wurzelbacher has become a darling of conservatives for attacking Obama's tax policies but he has declined to say who he will vote for in the November 4 election.
Honestly the articles attacking Joe the Plumber are pretty dumb. Regardless of his licensing status.. it does not change the validity of the question that was posed. Which was the TRUE importance that Joe the Plumber played.Quote:
Originally Posted by chongman420
With that said.. Go get a valid license Joe and his boss! :thumbsup:
He also owes $1182.98 in back taxes to the state of Ohio.
And as far as buying the business that he works for?
Nope, "Joe" is broke - he isnt' buying any business, but if he did - he still wouldn't see a tax increase because the business doesn't see a NET PROFIT of anywhere near 250k a year. So good news, Joe, your taxes will go down just like the rest of us non-Bently driving slobs.
But let's entertain Joe's fantasy for a moment - maybe Joe will win the lottery and use it to buy the business, and maybe now that he's a celeberity business will pick up and actually see $250k profit per year.... want to guess how much President Obama's tax plan is going to cost Joe? Between $0 and $900.00....
That's right, the huge burdon of extra taxes that is going to hold Joe back and keep him from buying the business will be at worst $900.... which aparently will just cripple poor Joe who is trying to scrape by on a meer $250,000.00 per year....
Aparently McCamp vetted Joe just about as well as they did Palin :-) Thanks, Joe!
The big winner in all of this (Other than Obama, of course): Joe the Plumber - an actual business that may or may not be owned by an actual Joe that has gotten a lot of free advertisement out of the deal.
Again.. does this change the validity of the question that Joe Posed that is now on the minds of small business owners across America.Quote:
Originally Posted by IAmKowalski
Everyone who is jumping on this guy is missing the point of the question he asked. Yes Joe doesn't have a valid license.. yes joe owes back taxes... but it doesn't change the question that Joe asked.
Focus on something other than what the media is spoon feeding us.
and show me where you got the $0 - $900 figure; I'm interested in seeing that because I don't buy that for a second.