Obama and Friends

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Originally Posted by justanotherbozo

i for one feel safer with John McCain.

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I, for one, don't feel like being drafted to get sent to the hell hole desert of Iran is being safer. But you're most likely out of the age range, so you dont have to worry, huh?

Trust me, if McCain is president, we have more war, simple as that. More Americans will die, the Middle East will NOT be stabilized because they DON'T want democracy as much as we'd like to think, and the rest of the world will us even more. War is not the answer to everything like McCain seems to think. There is no "honor" in pointless conflict. McCain is waaaaay too hung up on honor, hence why I never want a soldier as president, their interest is in battle, not peace.

"Hello I'm john mccain, a real true maverick. I am a maverick because I am your friend and you are my friend, my friends. so my friends, let us , my friends, be mavericks together my friends. i am referring to that mel gibson movie "maverick" , it really reminds me of being a fighter pilot, my friends. and my friends, let us not forget that you are my friends and i am your friend, my friend. My friend, barack obama is a terrorist because he knows a man who was once a part of the weatherman underground, my friend, this is very dangerous. and because you, my friends, are my friends, i would be very scared , my friends, if barack obama is our president, my friends, because my friends, he does not know what he is doing my friends. my friends he has no experience my friends, sarah palin and I are mavericks my friends. we will invade countries with no pretense or approval of congress, like my friend george bush. he was a maverick too because he declared war on Iraq without first obtaining proper authorization, my friends. don't you, my friends, want another MAVERICK, my friends, as president, my friends? MY FRIENDS?? MY friends. maverick, my friends.

i'm optimistic that mccain will just drop dead before the election. why? because he's old.

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Originally Posted by DaBudhaStank

I, for one, don't feel like being drafted to get sent to the hell hole desert of Iran is being safer. But you're most likely out of the age range, so you dont have to worry, huh?

Trust me, if McCain is president, we have more war, simple as that. More Americans will die, the Middle East will NOT be stabilized because they DON'T want democracy as much as we'd like to think, and the rest of the world will us even more. War is not the answer to everything like McCain seems to think. There is no "honor" in pointless conflict. McCain is waaaaay too hung up on honor, hence why I never want a soldier as president, their interest is in battle, not peace.

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Do you really believe that what the U.S. is doing in Iraq is spreading democracy? You're right to not support the war but don't buy into the false pretext for it either. Check out the description of this book written by veterans about their experiences in the war & see if this sounds like spreading democracy to you. Here are some quotes:

"I remember one woman walking by," said Jason Washburn, a corporal in the U.S. Marines who served three tours in Iraq. "She was carrying a huge bag, and she looked like she was heading toward us, so we lit her up with the Mark 19, which is an automatic grenade launcher, and when the dust settled, we realised that the bag was full of groceries. She had been trying to bring us food and we blew her to pieces."

"Something else we were encouraged to do, almost with a wink and nudge, was to carry 'drop weapons', or by my third tour, 'drop shovels'. We would carry these weapons or shovels with us because if we accidentally shot a civilian, we could just toss the weapon on the body, and make them look like an insurgent," Washburn said.

"One time they said to fire on all taxicabs because the enemy was using them for transportation...One of the snipers replied back, 'Excuse me? Did I hear that right? Fire on all taxicabs?' The lieutenant colonel responded, 'You heard me, trooper, fire on all taxicabs.' After that, the town lit up, with all the units firing on cars. This was my first experience with war, and that kind of set the tone for the rest of the deployment."

Vincent Emanuele, a Marine rifleman who spent a year in the al-Qaim area of Iraq near the Syrian border, told of emptying magazines of bullets into the city without identifying targets, running over corpses with Humvees and stopping to take "trophy" photos of bodies. "An act that took place quite often in Iraq was taking pot shots at cars that drove by," he said. "This was not an isolated incident, and it took place for most of our eight-month deployment."

"But on these convoys, I saw marines defecate into MRE bags or urinate in bottles and throw them at children on the side of the road," he stated.

Numerous accounts from soldiers include the prevalence of degrading terms for Iraqis, such as "hajis," "towel-heads" and "sand-s".

Scott Ewing, who served in Iraq from 2005-2006, admitted on one panel that units intentionally gave candy to Iraqi children for reasons other than "winning hearts and minds".

"There was also another motive," Ewing said, "If the kids were around our vehicles, the bad guys wouldn't attack. We used the kids as human shields."

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