Russia, Venezuela plan military drills

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Originally Posted by eg420ne

hahahahaha Well sir, it is because of the Bush preemptived strike that forces all these nations to start its military up....You know like invading a country like Iraq, I'd be scared too if the USA has an preempted motive to strike anyone's country. No doubt it's the reason behind it...Oh and dont forget Georgia invaded a province which the US had a hand in, so there.....note: i do not want the russian's too close to me....And by the way the US has its military all over the world which its been like for a long long time so if its good for the USofA then its good for everyone else, you know like Israel allowed to have NUKE's but no1 else can.......

But hey i'm sure youd be verbally attacking President Barack H Obama next year;):thumbsup:

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Wth??? Smoking a heavy indica tonight??? Egypt...Pakistan all on Israels doorstep, they have the nukes.. Why shouldent Israel?

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Originally Posted by eg420ne

Thanks GwB!
Putin sending planes to Caribbean | Freep.com | Detroit Free Press
MOSCOW -- Russia said Monday that it will send a naval squadron and long-range patrol planes to the Caribbean for military exercises with Venezuela -- a deployment in the Western Hemisphere unseen since the Cold War.



The move follows the U.S. deployment of warships to deliver aid to the former Soviet nation of Georgia, barely a month after Russian armor and aircraft crushed the Georgian military in a five-day war.

Russia's Foreign Ministry spokesman, Andrei Nesterenko, insisted Monday that Russia's decision to send the squadron and planes to Venezuela was made before Russia's war with Georgia.

"This deployment had been planned in advance, and it's unrelated to the current political situation," he said.

But the announcement was made just a week after Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin warned that his country would mount a response to U.S. aid shipments to Georgia.

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, an unbridled critic of U.S. foreign policy, was blunt Sunday night about the possibility that the United States might be concerned about the exercises. "Go ahead and squeal, Yankees," Chavez said in a national broadcast.

Chavez said the Russian vessels would arrive in late November or December.

State Department spokesman Sean McCormack mocked Russia's plans. If Russia really intends to send ships to the Caribbean, McCormack said, "then they found a few ships that can make it that far."
WoW!

Meanwhile, in a pointed but mostly symbolic expression of displeasure with the Russian government, President George W. Bush canceled a once-celebrated civilian nuclear cooperation deal with Russia on Monday. Bush had sent the agreement to Congress for approval in May, after a much-heralded signing by the two nations that capped two years of negotiations.

The deal would have given the United States access to state-of-the-art Russian nuclear technology, while helping it address climate change

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This also reminds me of the alarmist bullshit posted by someone who stated all these wargames in front of Iran and that while there the US would be attacking!!!! Funny half those ships are back here in our waters lol.

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Originally Posted by rebgirl420

They keep poking and poking and poking and poking....

And when we finally can't take it anymore and Chavez gets a slug through his fourhead the U.N. will look at us in awe.

I refuse to let Russia and Venezuala push me the fuck around. If it's ww3 sign me up.

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This is an attitude I find Very Unsettling......Are you REALLY Willing to let ANY Country start WW III especially The US? Do You Understand The Ramifications of "WWIII" Both Political and Environmental??? I'm sorry but this kinda Kneejerk Reaction is gonna get the world Blown Up.....Its Totally Foolish!!!!

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Originally Posted by The Figment

This is an attitude I find Very Unsettling......Are you REALLY Willing to let ANY Country start WW III especially The US? Do You Understand The Ramifications of "WWIII" Both Political and Environmental??? I'm sorry but this kinda Kneejerk Reaction is gonna get the world Blown Up.....Its Totally Foolish!!!!

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Fuck Russia and Fuck Venenzuella. Unless there "cool" of course, then its an exception :jointsmile: fire up and relax peeps some people feel very strongly this way and I do also, if they start a war I would probably be enlisting, not only to help my country but to help protect my country because if that happens we are FUCKED and i'd want to keep them as far away of our coast as possible. You have to be ready for anything, although you want not want or agree with it. Also want to add not a thrash at Mccain but hes not going into this with a very positive attitude towards Russia... Russians actually observed and taught the Vietcong MEntal torture and manipulation techniques. I would Suggest Russia not go invading any countries with mccain in office, especially an ally.... Thats a big IF he wins.

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Originally Posted by The Figment

This is an attitude I find Very Unsettling......Are you REALLY Willing to let ANY Country start WW III especially The US? Do You Understand The Ramifications of "WWIII" Both Political and Environmental??? I'm sorry but this kinda Kneejerk Reaction is gonna get the world Blown Up.....Its Totally Foolish!!!!

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True that brother. We've spent too long doing everything because we WANT to, not because it's necessary or will benefit the world. If I was a president, I would REFUSE to start a war, even if it was Britain getting bombed. Alliances do nothing except expand wars. If people are really that stoked that we might be in World War III, so they can "fight the good fight" then I might as well kill myself and everyone around me, because the world has clearly gone mad.

It's sad to see how much people really crave war instead of any and all possible alternate solutions. War should actually not even be on the table. It should be in a closet upstairs gathering dust, with numerous squeaky wheels and rusted springs that need the be fixed before being used. But it seems that most people would rather just run upstairs, grab it, hold it tight to their chest, and run outside screaming into the night.

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Originally Posted by DaBudhaStank

True that brother. We've spent too long doing everything because we WANT to, not because it's necessary or will benefit the world. If I was a president, I would REFUSE to start a war, even if it was Britain getting bombed. Alliances do nothing except expand wars. If people are really that stoked that we might be in World War III, so they can "fight the good fight" then I might as well kill myself and everyone around me, because the world has clearly gone mad.

It's sad to see how much people really crave war instead of any and all possible alternate solutions. War should actually not even be on the table. It should be in a closet upstairs gathering dust, with numerous squeaky wheels and rusted springs that need the be fixed before being used. But it seems that most people would rather just run upstairs, grab it, hold it tight to their chest, and run outside screaming into the night.

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Im sorry, but that sounds very cowardly. Im against us messing in other peoples business but our allies are our allies. They arent allies for no damn reason, do you know the ammount of money these countries are lending us? Not that im for anymore Defecit at all but facts our facts our politiicians have put us in this position and now we have to live with it. If our allies need our aid, I would be the first to volunteer.

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Originally Posted by RobPA

Im sorry, but that sounds very cowardly. Im against us messing in other peoples business but our allies are our allies. They arent allies for no damn reason, do you know the ammount of money these countries are lending us? Not that im for anymore Defecit at all but facts our facts our politiicians have put us in this position and now we have to live with it. If our allies need our aid, I would be the first to volunteer.

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The best part is that you said it sounds cowardly. So? I have no problems being cowardly, especially when I'm right, and I also couldn't care less if the whole world thought we were cowardly if we thought my way. They would learn swiftly how cowardly we aren't if they came over. Cowardice is a natural survival mechanism, I'm just putting it use. Also, people seem to confuse best interest with cowardice, and I'm not sure why....

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Originally Posted by Billionfold

Well, I sure am glad that you're not in charge, DabudhaStank... :stoned:

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You say that now. You'll wish I was ten years from now, maybe even less.

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Originally Posted by Billionfold

It's too bad wishing and typing from the safety of your home doesn't solve our world problems though.

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It's too bad you can't do anything unless you are a millionaire with only your personal interest at heart.

It's also too bad that I'd rather even contemplate fixing the worlds problems instead of lusting for war and murder. Damn shame....

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Originally Posted by Billionfold

You contemplate being a coward for a solution to world problems?

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No, i contemplate being a coward so we can IGNORE the worlds problems, at least for a little while. We need to get AMERICA on track first, then we can worry about the rest of the planet. It's not planet America, we don't have the right or responsibility to take care of everyone. Maybe once we get our own social civil war under control, we can worry about the world's problems, many of which don't affect us at all. I say many, not all.

EDIT: I just realized I said I want to solve the worlds problems instead of lusting for war and murder in a previous post. My bad. I meant to say I'd rather solve OUR problems instead of war.