will it ever be decriminalized?
yeah I didn't mean that someone who grows pounds sells it by the 8th. I just meant that their product can very well end up being sold by the 8th, after it trickles down the ranks of dealers, like you explained. And if somebody is growing on a small scale they could very well sell by the 8th.
I'm new to this site but I used to frequent Overgrow.com, where a great many people posted pictures of operations ranging in size. I guess I just assumed that whoever it is posting these pictures of grow rooms containing thousands of dollars worth of flowering buds are probably in the business of selling it. Why else would you have 30 plants instead of one or two? You think they're growing pounds to hand out for free to their friends? I'm with you though.. posting incriminating pictures on this forum seems pretty foolish but all you have to do is browse around the grow section to see that plenty of people are willing to take that risk.
And maybe my Obama theory is just wishful thinking. He just doesn't strike me as one to tolerate people going to jail for growing plants.
will it ever be decriminalized?
well, there are plenty of people who are willing to make a big capital investment and have a "grow room" of their own, lots and lots of them are medicinal patients with proper papers for their medication
30 plants @ 1-2 oz per plant aint much... plus sometimes plants die, sometimes u r testing them, and sometimes certain plants wont give u a big yield per capita
1 lb is 16 oz and a daily smoker can go thru an ounce in about 5-7 days moderately and smoking alone
so u see... if u r like many other people a "smoker" not just a casual toker... you would do the calculation (other than risk factor) and see that u save shit load of money when u get a customized home grown herb plus it turns into kind of a hubby cuz it needs time and attention so it fills up your time as well
If i was gonna grow for me, i would gauge my consumption in 1 week and then based on that and the strain of plant i like... i would grow enough plants to cover me until before my 2nd round harvest.. meaning what i harvest @ 1st round should last me all the way thru few months until i can get my own next harvest
1 more hint: most commercial grow areas are not too neat n clean... some are top notch, but most show signs that they are commercial and not personal
like having far more than 30 plants! or being in larger rooms with thousands of dollars worth of equipment... not like a few hundred bux! or u will see many custom made systems for plants, like many dirty looking buckets and hoses and wires running all over the place... cuz they are business, they only work on the money maker part, forget the look of the area, as long as germs dont kill the harvest! or sometimes u see a whole house including the restrooms used as well,
just google some grow bust, DEA is more than willing to post up pictures of the gardens for most of their major operations
most commercial grow busts net hundreds of thousands (sometimes millions) of dollars worth of weed in street price and thousands of dollars worth of equipment! say $6000 a pound sale price and needing min of 8-10 plants to get a pound, only in a $50000 bust, u will have to have grown 80-100 full blown plants
will it ever be decriminalized?
I have been in a large-scale grow house after it burned down...WAY different from someone just growing for personal use...the WHOLE house had plants...except for the kitchen...haha. Cannabis is already decriminalized in some states...but federally I don't see it happening soon. I see medical cannabis become tolerated/accepted soon though. The medical movement has a strong backing and I think there are enough legitimately sick people who do benefit from it (myslef included) and people have slowly become more accepting on a mainstream level.
will it ever be decriminalized?
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Originally Posted by Mcnizzlebery
Soon the medical states will overwhelm the feds and they wont have any choice. The fear is dissipating and the truth is becoming clear. A lot of work ahead but i predict within the next 5-10 years it will be legal with the exception of driving on it. And they will try to put a tax or ban on growing your own but that will eventually get overwhelmed and will have growing legal too. There is no stopping the truth. The ball is rolling.
I agree 100%
will it ever be decriminalized?
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Originally Posted by Hollywierdtoker
I have been in a large-scale grow house after it burned down...WAY different from someone just growing for personal use...the WHOLE house had plants...except for the kitchen...haha. Cannabis is already decriminalized in some states...but federally I don't see it happening soon. I see medical cannabis become tolerated/accepted soon though. The medical movement has a strong backing and I think there are enough legitimately sick people who do benefit from it (myslef included) and people have slowly become more accepting on a mainstream level.
once enough states pass medical legislation, there will be a demand for federal reclassification. Too many people will have family members toking under state law and wonder why the DEA says they can be arrested
will it ever be decriminalized?
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Originally Posted by justastoner
i agree, pot will never be legal.
the whole idea about medical marijuana is really a joke, we all know it. there might be a few things marijuana can somewhat make you feel better about but its mainly for people who just want to get stoned (im in that group as a med mj patient) and the lists I see spam'd on here for pot helping all sorts of things is crazy. there is NO PROOF, just saying it 'might' help. well aspirin might help too.
sure we like to get stoned, so just admit it rather than perpetuate sum fantasy.
I strongly disagree with you 100%. I know people who have no other alternative than to use cannabis. You apparently need to do a bit of reading, slick. It's no joke, it's making people's lives better.
and trust me, there's plenty of fucking proof. I personally know the proof, and I'm quite offended by your post. There's no might. It DOES help people, and obviously it doesn't help you, and you don't deserve to have a recommendation.
will it ever be decriminalized?
I remember things that you kids only read about.
I remember 20 years for 2 seeds and a few particles of green.
I remember life for a single joint.
I remember Tulia.
I remember a raided house that had been "cleaned", yet the cops "found" 2 fat baggies of Mex brick weed (when the folks there were smoking only good homegrown from a friend :mad: ).
I remember checking the table I rolled on for even the tiniest bit of green- cops looked for "particles" back then- didn't have to be a "smokable amount".
Medical cannabis wasn't even a concept when I started toking. There simply was no such thing. Now, 12 out of 50 states have some form of medical cannabis- and more MMJ bills are on the ballot. We need 1 more state to put us over the 1/4 mark- we will have it soon.
Remember, things ARE changing, slowly, but they are changing. Prohibition IS dying, but like most dinosaurs, it takes a while for it's tiny brain to get the message. How fast it dies is up to US! Yeah, I mean YOU! Get your tail moving and do something- the only way we "kill the beast" is for each of us to take up the responsibility to become an activist in whatever way we can. Send or show your doctor my list. Write a report on MMJ in college. Correct a misconception. Write a politician. Grow yer own. Write a letter to the editor. Vote! Even just using cannabis in a responsible way can be a form of activism!
Time for all of us to start "playing St. George"! :thumbsup:
Granny :hippy:
will it ever be decriminalized?
That's the most encouraging thing that I've heard in a longggg time.
In the words of Seth Rogen on Pineapple Express- "Let's face it, everyone likes smokin weed."
I guess it really is just a matter of time, but i've already sent my letter to the state rep, and any time anyone around me talks about it I tell them to just think of the money our government could make off of a marijuana tax.
I'm not a tax lover or anything but whatever it takes to legalize it man.
will it ever be decriminalized?
will it ever be decriminalized?
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Originally Posted by Loves2Bong
no way dude
The people who say it'll never happen are most likely those people sitting at home on the couch smoking pot..and think it'll never happen because they'd rather sit at home on the couch than get out and even throw the least bit of facts at people who argue marijuana is bad.:thumbsup:
And just to prove how wrong you are, marijuana technically already is decriminalized.
Nebraska: Amount, 1 oz or less (first offense) penalty, civil citation incarceration, none fine, $300