McCain backs ban on affirmative action in Arizona

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Originally Posted by McDanger

No disrespect intended, bongman but, you never hired anybody have you????

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I was never in a position of manager where I had to select the candidates itself, but I worked in HR as a coordinator for incumbent captures, so I'm aware of the various issues that arises in the hiring process.

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Originally Posted by thcbongman

You are basically insinuating that minorities are less qualified.

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No you and affirmative action are, why not make it illegal to not hire the most qualified person instead?

Alls I gots to say broham is WOO HOO!!

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Originally Posted by Fugitive

No you and affirmative action are, why not make it illegal to not hire the most qualified person instead?

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Sensitive, aren't we that you have to result to something personal? Or did that quote strike a chord?

The fact is whites tend to have higher salaries so when a company needs to trim their budget, who do you think they look at? The higher paid guys? They tend to get cut and blame affirmative action. Sure they are exceptions when reverse discrimination happens, but ask yourself, how often does this happen? Heck, I'll let one of you anti-affirmative action people come up with these facts to prove me wrong.

The question you ask is absurd. The most qualified person tend to be the one asking for the most money. Companies hire the most qualified person for the job within their price range so that person they end up hiring isn't "the most qualified."

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Originally Posted by rebgirl420

I agree. Affirmative action did have its place in the past but for the last few years its become a joke.

So now instead of giving an equal chance to everyone, it now discriminates against white people. Colleges and jobs now have to give up seats for minorities who might not have the credentials so the government can come in and say everythings "fair and equal". Otherwise these schools and businesses lose funding.

I feel that minorities bitch and moan that things aren't "fair" and that white people are constantly pointing out their race. But then later use their race as an advantage.

Either your in or your out. Pick a side people.

(And I must point out that if a minority is indeed more superior for a job (which many are) they obviously should get it over someone who doesn't, whether they be white, black, brown, whatever.)

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I totally agree with this post although I believe affirmative action should have never been put in place in the first place. I am also in a position where I do all the hiring and firing for my shift and its no easy job, especially when you get to know people personally and there families. Now I just try and keep my distance and never get to close to our employees.

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Originally Posted by rebgirl420

I agree. Affirmative action did have its place in the past but for the last few years its become a joke.

So now instead of giving an equal chance to everyone, it now discriminates against white people. Colleges and jobs now have to give up seats for minorities who might not have the credentials so the government can come in and say everythings "fair and equal". Otherwise these schools and businesses lose funding.

I feel that minorities bitch and moan that things aren't "fair" and that white people are constantly pointing out their race. But then later use their race as an advantage.

Either your in or your out. Pick a side people.

(And I must point out that if a minority is indeed more superior for a job (which many are) they obviously should get it over someone who doesn't, whether they be white, black, brown, whatever.)

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so wait, what if we *gasp* stop hiring underqualified, unintelligent, and lazy people?! naaah it's too far fetched :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Stoner Shadow Wolf

so wait, what if we *gasp* stop hiring underqualified, unintelligent, and lazy people?! naaah it's too far fetched :rolleyes:

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Cmon, say the rest coward. Which group of lazy, underqualified, unintelligent people do you refer to? Blacks? Latinos? Say it.

Utterly unbelieveable, a bunch of stoners that have a perception that the majority of minorities are underqualified and lazy like you opened a republican political ideologue book and repeat what they say. Most of all, you all are so politically correct that you say these applicants are underqualified and lazy, but fail to mention their race. Goddamn sickening and cowardly.

Heads up....this thread is starting to take a bit of a turn. This is a hot subject so watch how ya step. Lets keep this to discussing the issue and avoid racism at all cost. Thanks much!:thumbsup:

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

I want the SOB to say it. He already implied that people who benefit from affirmative action are "underqualified, untelligent, and lazy people." He should finish the damn sentence and not be such a (0) coward.

Since that comment is allowed and praised by all, I'm going to start ignorantly stereotyping, see how you fucks feel.

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Originally Posted by thcbongman

I want the SOB to say it. He already implied that people who benefit from affirmative action are "underqualified, untelligent, and lazy people." He should finish the damn sentence and not be such a (0) coward.

Since that comment is allowed and praised by all, I'm going to start ignorantly stereotyping, see how you fucks feel.

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You're still wrong. I don't believe he meant blacks, whites, latinos, asians, or any ethnic group in that. Hire the most qualified. If it happens to end up being a company that's 99% white, so be it.


Every you think of Affirmative Action, ask yourself this:

Do I approve of Affirmative Action?
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Do I believe in equality of all races and getting the best man for the job?

If you answered 'yes' to both questions, you are a hypocrite, plain and simple. You cannot support one race over another because of quotas and past injustices and expect equality. You're actively fighting against equality.