lets just put it this way.. we have a better chance of a pig being president of the united states before this will EVER happen.. lol (im talking about finding a solar system that supports life like ours)
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lets just put it this way.. we have a better chance of a pig being president of the united states before this will EVER happen.. lol (im talking about finding a solar system that supports life like ours)
you are wrong. most likely anyway. we should find many such planets and we should be able to develop ways to travel anywhere in space we want to travel, if we want it bad enough and are not so short-sighted to not take the risk and expense of making it happen. we will be far better off if we do, and will wither away into nothingness if we don't, so we must travel to the stars.
i like where this is all headed.
here's a hypothesis! what if we, on earth, eventually merge technology & biology into some machine-human hybrid, or basically just transfer all our human "energy" and "minds" into that of robots.
WHAT IF, instead of "robots taking over" and "killing all humans", robots really were still instilled with the idea that organic life is good, and WHAT IF THEY spent their "lives" trying to get back to Organic life, just as we have spent OUR lives trying to get to Technological life.
and what if, say, when robots are all that's left, regardless of whether we've reached the speed of light or not, Robots left our solar system before it was destroyed, and traveled maybe for MILLIONS of years (which they could withstand, being robots) to another "Earth" and colonized Humans there with the remains of their long lost descendants.
That's fuckin BRILLIANT. and once again, not even stoned :cool:
interesting, because I saw Micho Kaku suggesting something similar in a recent Science Channel show. He said we can send little machines, nanoprobes I believe, through a wormhole to another universe or elsewhere in our universe and reseed the human race on the other side. That probe would have our genetic code and everything else about us and would reconstruct human civilization on the other side. amazing! I would prefer to go there myself but if we couldn't, or before we could, this would be good too.
and who knows? The robots in your scenario may establish a civilization and use us as their model for a God. Not that is good or bad. Or maybe they would willingly work where we couldn't go easily, like asteroids or Mercury and and so on, mining and doing whatever else they can do to help their masters. They would do everything and we would live our lives doing what we want to do while they do the dirty work. I am not saying that is good or bad either, just a possible scenario. If they achieve their own sentience though, they deserve to live on their terms. A lot to keep the philosophers busy! :D
Interesting to muse on.
I saw a program dealing with the formation of the Earth and the beginning of life here. According to the scientists interviewed, we now believe that the essential building blocks for life were delivered via star dust bombarding the Earth. If that is true it is inconceivable that similar conditions have not already occurred on other planets meeting the other requirements for life.
hahahahaha... Your funny man... and TOTALLY wrong sorry to tell you.... You can keep dreaming cause nothing like that will ever happen... we will wipe ourselves out (extinct ourselves) WAYYYY before we would even be able to think about technology to travel the universe and not only that but YOU WILL NEVER,EVER FIND A SOLAR SYSTEM AND PLANET LIKE OURS!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by space toker
Lets just put it this way. I could fill the ENTIRE Earth with a pile of dimes that reaches as high as the moon, and put ONE RED dime in that pile. Then, blindfold you and let you pick one dime out of the pile.
You have a better chance to pick the RED dime out of all those, than you do of us finding a planet, or solar system like ours!!! and thats ALOT OF DIMES!!!!!!!
maybe that will help you realize how special this universe and our solar system really is... and how LIFE in general, is something very special. Not just random!!!
exactly. anyone who thinks there are not likely to be other Earths out there are just not thinking period. They could be rare, they could be quite common, but they are almost certain to exist, and the evidence as BlueRazer mentioned suggests they are more on the common side of things. We should soon discover many Earth-like worlds. Yes I am optimistic but that does by no means mean unrealistic. Would you rather live your life believing that anything is possible or that nothing is possible? The latter would be a morbid depressing way to live, so I choose the former. Progress never happens under the leadership of pessimists, if it was up to them, we would all still be living in caves. Unfortunately, our leaders are not optimists either but somewhere in between, or we would already be living elsewhere in the solar system or even around other stars.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueBlazer
I am an optimist too but a bit of a cynic as well, which is kind of strange I guess. :wtf:Quote:
Originally Posted by space toker
I'm cynical about ever seeing anything more than "baby steps" in my lifetime or even that of my grandchildren. Our progress towards space has been limited by the will of the human race at large really. How many common folks going about their daily lives really wants to pay taxes so scientists and jet jockeys can snag some rocks from the moon or Mars? I think if you conducted a national vote on it, you'd find that space exploration wouldn't get the approval rating necessary to constitute a mandate. It will take a combined effort and the public will to make a human expansion into space and it will be a long time coming I'm afraid.
Humans have created the technology to successfully launch, pilot, and use robot spacecraft to explore our Solar System and beyond. The level of technology it will take to reach any habitable planets with humans aboard is far above what we now possess. There are advancements being made all the time, but unless a way to actually navigate a worm hole is achieved, mankind will always be limited by the incredible amount of time required to reach other solar systems even at the speed of light.
I guess you could say that I'm an optimist in that I believe that mankind will eventually evolve and those qualities that are noble in us will win out in the long run. Then humans will be ready to colonize space.
Like I said... KEEP DREAMING!!! Your never going to find another planet like ours because none like ours exist. We are ONE OF A KIND! Even if the universe contains as many planets as it does stars, which is a BIG over estimate in my opinion, that still leaves us with less than one chance in a billion trillion that you'd find even one planet in the entire universe with the capacity for supporting life like ours.
"Another way of looking at this incredible fine-tuning of the universe in this one characteristic is to compare it with the very best that we humans have achieved. It's not built yet, but towards the end of this year, a machine will come online at Cal Tech. This machine will have the capacity to make measurements to within one part in 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 (10 to the 23rd power). The best machine man has ever designed.
But the very best machine that man has ever designed, with all of our money, technology and education, falls one hundred trillion times short of the level of fine-tuning that we see in just this one characteristic of the universe." hugh ross
Yea... Ummm it's never going to happen. I'll smoke to that. :pimp: