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Ok, things are looking good (at least to me) for the most part... However I have 2 plants that are showing some signs of distress...
One is drooping and the other looks like it has some type of burn.... I dont think its light related since there are other plants that are closer to the light and are not having this problem. Here are a few pics.
The first 2 are the same plant that I think has the nutrient problem the third is the drooping one.
A good rule to remember is NOT to prune things......plants USE all the stored nutes, minerals etc in those ugly leaves so if you yank them you do two things.....
1. You set the plant back by forcing it to now concentrate on healing from all those leaves you just yanked instead of growing so it's wastes both time and the plant's energy in an unnecessary way....not to mention stressing it's immune system as well.
2. The moment you yank them the plant will immediately start pulling nutes from the next set of nice green leaves since whatever problem it has is still there and you'll be in exactly the same boat......with less plant as well.
Have you checked the ph of your water and your soil runoff?
Haven't checked the water going in or coming out...
Will the basic pool testers work?
yes (liquid test?) or aquarium ph testers you can buy at your local pet store. I'm not at all sure if this is the issue or not.......hydro growers love ph and we cherish knowing it.
Things like underwatering, overwatering, heat stress, too many nutes and root disease issues can all cause a plant to wilt badly so it's pretty hard to say.
Ps....DONT use pool OR pet ph ADJUSTERS to change ph......fish ph up and down is too high in salts and I would seriously doubt anything you'd put in your pool would be something you'd want to use in growing.
You can use distilled white vinegar to lower ph and baking soda to raise it.....in an emergency only. You want ph between 6.2-6.8, going both in and out.
I'm asking about ph because of what appears to de a def in the one plant.....with the yellow edges.......but could be the wilted plant's problem as well.....although I have a feelng that the two issues are seperate.
Good luck.
PH was 8.4 according to the freshwater fish take test strips I got.
This is water that I have had sit out for 2-3 days roughly and I use old (rinsed out) 2 Liter pop bottles to let it sit in.
I assume 8.4 is a bit of a problem. How much of what should I add to it to make it the right range?
I didnt test drain water since I figure this will be an issue.
Yes, you're right it's a bit of a problem, but is this the same water you have been using all along? Perhaps sittiing out lowers your ph (although it really shouldn't have too much effect on ph itself) or the soil you've been using has good ph buffers in it. Or....or ...or.....
You really need Stinky here.......you're getting out of my knowledge range in soil in a hurry. I would go ahead and check runoff ph......see if your soil is buffering things at all or not.....and Stinky should be back in the morning to help you. I'd hate to give advice I'm not sure of because I think you recently DID transplant to fresh soil didn't you? i really don't want to make things worse here.
I had the same thought (about water sitting out and changing the PH) so I tested the tap water as fresh as I can get it.
I transplanted about 5 days ago. I will water and test runoff for the "issue" plants now.
Thanks again.
Runoff water came in at 6.8
I would guess that means the PH of my soil is in like the 5.2 range.... way to low.... how do I get it up?
Aloha, Math guyQuote:
Originally Posted by Weedhound
WH Knows of whence he speaks. If he says wait for Stinky, pull up a chair.
You are in good hands here.
Two little t'ings though. :twocents:
Checkin' da PH onna way in is a good idea:),
so, while you're checkin' ,check da runoff too.
I'm guessin' you store da water to let Chlorine dissapate?
Dependin' where you live, most water suppliers now use chloramine. Chlorine dissapates, chloramine does not and will kill fish.
Was not sure if the stuff they sell for fish tanks was good for da girls, so, scrounged a 55 gal drum and put him under my downspout.
Now use only rainwater for aeroponics
Catchment rainwater is low PH here, (SO2 from Volcano), but after it runs off a stone roof, it's about 7.4.
I mix nutes, then add a few drops of Lemon juice.
Tried white vinegar but every time I did, even in small amounts.
I got a weird slimy black mold in the res.
Switched to Lemon juice. problem went away.
Could be co-inkydink, or the fact that I was using tap water at the time which is also High PH here.
(I t'ink da water guys overmedicate.)
But, that's Hawaii.
State motto? Half-assed is more than good enough.
Dats OK, state attitude is "Maximum pleasure, minimum effort."
But I digress.:)
Where was I?
Oh.
Also, lettin' da water sit allows it to go flat.
I figure, if flat water in a tub drowns roots...
I always half fill a container wit fresh mixed nutes and shake da heck outta it just before I geevum to my dirty girls. (Still got 4 in pots).
Best of luck with your grow, brah.
The Zard who is wee
The ZARD :D is correct about the lemon juice :thumbsup: And quite seriously I think areation can NOT be overdone .....but there are generally things in quality soil that buffer the water so I wouldn't say necessarily your soil is low or TOO low or......might be buffers or.....I just am not soil knowledgable really and Stinky'll be able to whip off the right answer asap.
I use Fox Farm Oceans Forest but only because I'm told to by my hydro man......couldn't even tell you why....just that he said to use this so.....
Do you use a zyme product of any type (for roots?)
How long has the one plant been wilting?
Zard....you are too kind. :giveflower: