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		I cheat...I use a moisture meter probe....(it's longer and thinner than my finger)...goes all the way down on a 10 inch pot...and tells me "wet/normal/dry"...I water when it says "dry"...:thumbsup:
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			I believe the purpose of drying the majority of the soil out, is to encourage the roots to grow in search of fresh water. So, when they say "wet/dry cycle," it really means wet them FULLY... and dry them until they are practically BEGGING for water.
			
		
	 
 This is true, and there is one more reason, which is that as the water recedes, air is sucked in to replace it, bringing much-needed oxygen to the root zone. Without oxygen, you get what is termed 'reducing conditions' in nerd land (a place from which I have many visa stamps on my passport hahaha), and soil chemistry becomes unfit for plant life, and only certain anaerobic bacteria can survive there.
	 
	
	
	
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			This is true, and there is one more reason, which is that as the water recedes, air is sucked in to replace it, bringing much-needed oxygen to the root zone. Without oxygen, you get what is termed 'reducing conditions' in nerd land (a place from which I have many visa stamps on my passport hahaha), and soil chemistry becomes unfit for plant life, and only certain anaerobic bacteria can survive there.
			
		
	 
 thanks!!! now I "get" the wet/dry cycle thing...Damn I need to update my styles...lol, I have always watered after second knuckle went in dry....at least that seems to be my problem, and not something worse....yippee....thats what i got stinks and them for...to keep me in line;)
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			...plus, I don't like getting my fingernails dirty...:postexcuseme:
			
		
	 
 Now that's Pimpin'... since Pimpin'... since Pimpin'... since Pimpin... :jointsmile:
Is it one of those Rapitest Mini Moisture Meters? (say that shit 10x backwards) I got one for like $5-10 and it doesn't work well. I tried it out on my outdoor potted tomato plants (really tomatoes, not code), which had just gone through a rain storm so they were completely saturated, and it barely registered. I didn't bother using it with my indoor plants, because I'm comfortable with recognizing when they need water now. Do they actually measure the moisture in the soil, or is it based on density? I would imagine that heavily watered soil would have greater density, pushing in on the probe, making it register WET. Likewise, dry soil would be lighter, creating less pressure on the probe.
	 
	
	
	
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		i got a moisture meter for this reason too1!! and it also sucks balls....dry old balls...my shit was soaked and barely registered too....fuck it...i get it now, I can judge by weight of pot....heh....weight of pot!!!
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		My moisture meter says "Made In China"....but it jives with "pick up the pot and feel the the weight" method...never hurts to double check...:thumbsup:
	 
	
	
	
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		I'm with Pimp on this (ok....not literally...:D)   I believe I got so frustrated with my shitty soil moisture meter that I put it under the wheels of my truck and ran over it several times.
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		image....stinky...metal even...thanks guys, It takes a second eye for me to catch simple shit sometimes...trying to do alot o shit right now...so thanks again for tolerating my ADHD noobness:jointsmile::thumbsup:
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		ffof is to rich for that strain ...some strains can handle stronger nutes than others...the image reaper hit it on the head, but i couldnt figure out the quote
	 
	
	
	
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			you're over-watering ... that's the classic 'look', anyway ... I gotta add, that I stopped using FF Ocean Forest after a couple tries, it was just too rich for my young ones, trashed them :wtf: ... older transplants did fine in it ... others have great luck with it, I suspect strain may make a difference, don't know for sure ... consider that, but watering is your main issue, make sure the plant goes thru 'dry' and 'wet' cycles ... the plant takes up nutrients as it is drying, and needs the oxygen to the roots, can't drown ... :thumbsup:
			
		
	 
 
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			Too cold + Too wet + Too acidic= exact symptom set you are seeing. 
Check your runoff pH, get your temps between 75 and 82, lay off the watering, and spray them NOW NOW NOW NOW with a 1/4 strength foliar feed of your micronute supplement. That potassium deficiency (brown spotting near veins) is going to kill them in those wet conditions; K is the element most important to immune health in plants.
			
		
	 
 those saved em...thanks ladies!;)
whiskeytango