If we are an accident, then what is the point?

One major problem, I believe, is that these huge corporations spend billions of dollars on advertising to tell people they need to buy things to feel good, to be free, and to be cool. But in the end what do you have? Just a whole bunch of shit that eventually destroys the environment. I believe you should look inside yourself and find something that makes you happy at the same time causing as little suffering around you. There really is nothing else you can do to correctly coexist with nature. Its all about karma man, Live your life doing as many good things to others around and it will all be returned, but you have to believe.

it's the eternal question I had with my mom hen I was a kid...

WHY DO I HAVE TO MAKE MY BED??? IF TONIGHT I'M GONNA COME HOME AND MESS IT UP TONIGHT ANYWAY???

If you have to ask why live then your not living enough.

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Originally Posted by MadSativa

If you have to ask why live then your not living enough.

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Genius

It's the journey. Enjoy it.

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Originally Posted by BathingApes

I think everyone is missing the point. Im not arguing whether there is meaning to life, or whether us being an accident (if true), actually has any sort of profound inherent meaning, rather, my point is, if we all die and cease to exist, then what is the point, to anything?

Does there have to be a point? I dont know. But if there doesnt, then thats the same as not having one essentially, which means that nothing matters, ever.

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take some acid and once you get some good enough youll stop worrying about that shit it will finally hit you that it doenst matter.

I never understood why people think life is an accident in the first place. If life can exist in the harshest of conditions and on other planets not to mention other dimensional planes not limited to the 4 we live in (the 4th being time) then why should it be an accident. Its not difficult to understand how life began using the properties of carbon atoms, hydrogen, oxygen, electricity and amino acids, all stuff born from stars that are abundant in our universe.
There are NO accidents in the universe and beyond. Only infinite possibilities.

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Originally Posted by JeffersonBud

I never understood why people think life is an accident in the first place. If life can exist in the harshest of conditions and on other planets not to mention other dimensional planes not limited to the 4 we live in (the 4th being time) then why should it be an accident. Its not difficult to understand how life began using the properties of carbon atoms, hydrogen, oxygen, electricity and amino acids, all stuff born from stars that are abundant in our universe.
There are NO accidents in the universe and beyond. Only infinite possibilities.

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Whilst I concede that life may not be an accident, to claim that there are NO accidents "in the universe and beyond" is both unfounded in logic and reasoning. When I refer to "accident" - I mean something without cause. In other words, creation without a creator. The opposite of the cosmological argument if you like. I'm aware that there could indeed be a God, but for the sake of keeping this discussion away from the general religion vs. science BS that fills the internet these days, let's just assume, in terms of answering the question (it isn't a statement) - that there isn't.

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Originally Posted by suhl

take some acid and once you get some good enough youll stop worrying about that shit it will finally hit you that it doenst matter.

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I've done acid before. Trust, it was good shit. However, your point is essentially my point exactly. The statement doesn't matter, nothing matters, ever, if life ceases to exist. Forget emotions or feelings for a second, they are simply relative to life, and without life, (assuming there is no afterlife) they cannot be present. I concur, that essentially this doesn't make a difference, because the existence/absence of God cannot be proven or disproven. Neither can anything - nothing is truly true - and because of this I'm aware that this discussion will lead nowhere.

In ironic contradiction of my initial statement, let's discuss it anyway.


"And we don't know
just where our bones will rest.
To dust i guess.
Forgotten and absorbed into the earth below"

- Billy Corgan.

First off my idea about the universe is not a religion. information is god to me. I guess you can put every idea including the people who don't believe in a religion, into a religion. if that makes any sense. I do not want a following of any kind nor for my idea of how the cosmos work to influence the way others think. It is for me and me alone.
Second, if there are infinite possibilities, then there are no such thing as accidents. If reality is in fact not real and by consciousness, we manifest our own destiny, then anything can happen and will.
third, the "big bang" is in keeping with what you are saying and a theory that everyone is aware of. The big bang is indeed a conflict among cause and effect because "energy cannot be created nor destroyed". One more antimatter then matter would be impossible but as we all know can happen. we are living in it now.

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Originally Posted by BathingApes

I've done acid before. Trust, it was good shit. However, your point is essentially my point exactly. The statement doesn't matter, nothing matters, ever, if life ceases to exist. Forget emotions or feelings for a second, they are simply relative to life, and without life, (assuming there is no afterlife) they cannot be present. I concur, that essentially this doesn't make a difference, because the existence/absence of God cannot be proven or disproven. Neither can anything - nothing is truly true - and because of this I'm aware that this discussion will lead nowhere.

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I have an idea of where you are at at this moment in time. I've been in a very similar situation. The way I see it is that you can go over and over this stuff time and again and there is still no clear answer as no one knows what the point is. Everyone has their own idea or someone else's idea but there is no proof.

So I decided that life is living in the moment. Rather than going to end of my life in my mind I decided to step back from that and set a clear goal for myself. Something worth aiming for that makes the present moment more meaningful. We all feel the highs and lows of life but having a target that motivates me makes more highs than lows and essentially a better life. I still think about the point of it all but it doesn't bother me because I've created an artificial meaning that makes the present moment all that matters.