Never Forget

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Originally Posted by Torog

Why is it,that so many are opposed to Freedom for all ? What excuse,is there,that can justify leaving folks in tyranny and enslavement ?

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That is such hypocritical bull shit. Truth is, if there's nothing in it for big businesses and government, no one gives a crap, and no one does anything about it. Do you realize what's going on in Sudan? the government has killed as many as 300,000 of it's own citizens. Where are the air strikes? Where's Michael Moore? Where's Bush's speach placing Sudan in the 'axis of evil'?

There are so many other countries in the world with regimes just as bad, if not worse, than Saddam's in Iraq. But they're not in the MIddle East, and they don't have huge oil reserves, so who cares?

Get off your high horse and wake up Torog, cause you're totally blind.

Oil was not the only reason but it had its part.

Back at the beggining of 2001 the price of oil was not high enough to be profitable for American drillers, and experts were predicting a price plunge. Texas and Oklahoma insiders were drilling like crazy. They were spending money on oil drilling equipment and new exploration that was just not profitable at all.
The only place the drillers could have obtained inside information that would make such ventures profitable is from the mouth of George W. Bush himself, a seasoned oil business professional who is now President.
The only information that Bush could give them that would make them believe that the price of oil is going to go up instead of down is that he would engage the United States in a major war in the Middle East.
That is why i think oil had some part in it.

Peace

I don't know the details on the oil connection, but I know it exists. My point is that 'Freedom', 'Liberty' and 'Democracy' aren't the reasons the US invaded Iraq, because if they were, then they would be involved in tons of more places. In fact, the US cares so little about dictatorial regimes in other places that the vast majority of Americans do not even know they're going on until Hollywood makes a movie about it 10 years later... *coughHotelRwandacough* :confused:

bush TRIED to get into the oil buisness but obviously was not cut out for it.he had a company for about 2 years.believe me,he is not a seasoned oil man.the he became a partner in the Texas Rangers baseball team.Bush 41 is the oil man,not junior.besides my SUV would love some iraqi oil! J/K The debate could go on and on,but what's done is done.I don't think it takes a genius to see that thing's are changing for the better and will continue on that path.hey,someone had to do it.germany,france and russia were to busy with there illegal dealing's to even care.boy,they sure are singing a differant tune now!for a country like france,who was selling anti-tank missles to saddam 2WEEKS before we went in to change the way they are talking,that's huge.

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Originally Posted by Torog

Howdy amsterdam,

Your welcome !

Why is it,that so many are opposed to Freedom for all ? What excuse,is there,that can justify leaving folks in tyranny and enslavement ?

Have a good one....Torog

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Ask bush why he support the house of saud. The excuse is: "they have oil".

if it were because of oil we would have cheap gas?correct?the "house of saud"got mad at us two years ago and tried to embargo our oil,i guess you can see that mattered alot?the oil argument is like playing the race card,ridiculous, and all they have left to use.sad really.

and prince sultan air base wich they let us use to fly to iraq with.when did they let us have that base?in the first iraq war so saddam didn't try to move on their oil fields along the border.that's why.it's a double edged sword.

the oil?we are in saudi because they asked us to put an air base when saddam invaded kuwait.they didnt want his army taking any of their oil fields along the border.if it were for oil we would have cheaper gas.they tried (saudi's)tried to embargo the oil to us about two years ago and it made no diffence at all.im sure you don't know the fact's because you don't pay attention to what's going on.did you really say we wont know anytrhing until HOLLYWOOD makes amovie?that made me laugh outloud !unbelievable to actually hear someone say something like that.

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Originally Posted by amsterdam

and prince sultan air base wich they let us use to fly to iraq with.when did they let us have that base?in the first iraq war so saddam didn't try to move on their oil fields along the border.that's why.it's a double edged sword.

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So its okay for allies to have bad human rights records and no democracy.

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i find that so dam funny today



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