1,000,000 Iraqis dead since the invasion of 2003
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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
Destroy the idea..no; let them set up training camps to work out of...again no! IF we leave Iraq in a mess that'll be exactly the case and we'll be back there in a matter of years because of an attack on us. Dangerous to stay....a hell of alot more dangerous for us to leave.
Have a good one!:s4:
How long have they had a government now? Have they bothered to get off their asses and do something? No, because we're still there helping them and giving them money and help, why the fuck would you want to give that up??
training camps to work out of again..I don't believe that al queda was in Iraq before we invaded...best place of any, where they look like any other civilian, only they have ak-47's under their jackets..
And I actually don't remember hearing of all of these car bombings, and suicide bombings, or such a high amount of Iraqi civilians being killed before the invasion..
1,000,000 Iraqis dead since the invasion of 2003
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Originally Posted by Markass
How long have they had a government now? Have they bothered to get off their asses and do something? No, because we're still there helping them and giving them money and help, why the fuck would you want to give that up??
So how long between the Declaration of Independence untill we had a functional government? That's considering that we didn't have mortar attacks, IED's, or some of the other special things that they have going against them. You have three major factions that are learning how to live together....hell, they should be commended just for being able to construct a constitution agreeable to all factions in the short period of time that they did it in. Rome wasn't built in a day.........
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Originally Posted by Markass
And I actually don't remember hearing of all of these car bombings, and suicide bombings, or such a high amount of Iraqi civilians being killed before the invasion..
No you didn't.....but we sure did find the mass graves when we did invade.
Have a good one!:s4:
1,000,000 Iraqis dead since the invasion of 2003
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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
"All within the past week".....this is the catch phrase. Fact is, insurgent attacks are DOWN!
Don't forget though that "a week is a long time in politics". I thought you said you hadn't heard anything for months... three attacks in one week, doesn't that mean attacks are up again?
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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
That's always the catch phrase with the left in here.....must be watching FOX. LMAO....even the dems in the debates are stating that the surge has had a VERY positive effect and that violence is down!
Down from what, the past 3-4 years since America invaded? It certainly is down from BEFORE they invaded.
1,000,000 Iraqis dead since the invasion of 2003
some people miss the point. US mil invaded a country illegally without provocation (Iraq) and most certainly without justification (btw for those already shaking their heads, justification means reasonable proof guys look it up). Information supporting their argument is supressed and ignored by themselves. (Where is the overwhelming evidence on 9/11 - missing, thats what guys)
IF they remove all the evidence from a crime scene before it is inspected by FEMA then they deserve neither sympathy nor justification in their little war game.
I'm still frankly AMAZED how this "war on terror" works.
Guys, war on terror?! Think about it, how does that work exactly? The whole idea of terrorism is to create a massive rift between the invaded and the invader, and it works. The republican government said they could win, and I'm not convinced. Terrorism will continue to exist in the country - this is NOT like what happened in Ireland in Europe man, this is genocide. Genocide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Further to that, the United Nations to which the US is a signatory declared any war in Iraq to be fundamentally illegal. This advice was ignored and the United States Government is in breach of it's own international treaty.
I feel like a moron, I hope anyone who argues for us to "stay there and minimize the damage" feels a bit silly too. We clearly fucked up something here so other than continuing to argue for a bullshit war maybe we should consider the fact that you cannot free a people from one dictator and replace them with another; which is clearly the occupying forces.
Many apologies to possible republicans; my ideas are socialist and you are at liberty of democracy and free speech to ridicule me for my feelings. Please though, provide a reason :-)
Peace 2 all,
Denial
Wikipedia Genocide CPGG/ICC article 2
" ...any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
â?? Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, Article II
(it would indeed seem that the "only way to stop terorrism" is to commit mass genocide of these "religous fanatics")
1,000,000 Iraqis dead since the invasion of 2003
1,000,000 Iraqis dead since the invasion of 2003
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Originally Posted by angry nomad
only when he was killing people he didn't like ;p
1,000,000 Iraqis dead since the invasion of 2003
Why is it so hard to see people are people? If most of the terrorists on the planes were Saudis, then why did we not bomb Saudi Arabia?
Why did Bush hold hands with and kiss the King of Saud right after?
If we invaded Iraq because there was a brutal dictator ruling the country, why don't we invade Sudan, Pakistan, North Korea, or China?
If we invaded for oil, why don't we invade Canada, Mexico, or Venezuela.
If we invaded for WMD's, then why are we using depleted uranium, and white phosphorous?
The idea of preemptive war is completely unconstitutional. We never should have went there. It's time to bring our troops home.
1,000,000 Iraqis dead since the invasion of 2003
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Originally Posted by angry nomad
Why is it so hard to see people are people? If most of the terrorists on the planes were Saudis, then why did we not bomb Saudi Arabia?
Why did Bush hold hands with and kiss the King of Saud right after?
If we invaded Iraq because there was a brutal dictator ruling the country, why don't we invade Sudan, Pakistan, North Korea, or China?
If we invaded for oil, why don't we invade Canada, Mexico, or Venezuela.
If we invaded for WMD's, then why are we using depleted uranium, and white phosphorous?
The idea of preemptive war is completely unconstitutional. We never should have went there. It's time to bring our troops home.
In short? Because we are mad conspiracists that believe in the Global Government New World Order!; I was mad 5 years ago for suggesting it, but as the new world government is forming as we speak in brussels I will still remain the same whacko conspiracy theorist... it sucks but it is true.
I say it in a light hearted manner, as many people, will never listen and that is human nature it seems, in favor of ignorance over information, arrogance over ego. War over peace, and misguided justification systems in economies which are simply as idealic and imaginary as most "political and sociological systems refered to as idealist".
It's a bummer. Really is. There are a lot of like minded people that may one day change that.
Peace,
Denial
1,000,000 Iraqis dead since the invasion of 2003
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Originally Posted by yokinazu
ill trade you my arizona ocean front property for that bridge
arizona doesnt have a ocean.
1,000,000 Iraqis dead since the invasion of 2003
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Originally Posted by Innominate
SHAMEFUL. America is shameful. There is no other way to describe us right now. :mad:
I don't know if this really deserves to be in "Politics," but I think we know what has caused this disease to humanity.
No...how about you tell us...?
Reuters was the only source of this story. No cooberating evidence whatsoever. (at least not anywhere on the web)
No other major outlets jumping on this 'factual' representation of fact? No curiosity as to why?
Could be that it's a conspiritorial cover-up perpetrated by the conservative press to hide the Iraqi genocide, right?
lolololol.
Evidentally, even the 'mainstreem' press has the feeling that the "facts" of this story are fiction. No follow-up's, no confirmation of the the data...
Nice cut-n-paste job. Accompanied with the required bashing of Americans, of course.
I am disappointed there was no "Bush murdered 'em all" staetment, tho.
