will you go to heaven or not

Well... what i will describe is only a theory, but for me makes sense.
Heaven and hell are described as timeless places we go after our death, and where we stay forever.
But time is relative. As every stoner knows, one minute can feel like hours... so what is one second for one people dont necessarily means one second for another.
Well... its believed that when our body is dying our brain is flooded with neurotransmitters and other substances, one of which is the DMT, a HEAVY hallucinogenic. And it makes the time to go slowwww.
So, i think both heaven and hell are states of mind, (or "trips" like some people would say) felt by people due the release of hallucinogens in the dying brain.
And, as every tripper knows, set and setting plays a fundamental role in the "trip". So, if a person was a good person, and had a positive view of the death ("when i die i will go to heaven"), then when it start to feel the hallucinations it will regard it as being in heaven. Yet if the people's view of the death were fearsome, the "trip" will be hellish.
And now enters the relativity of the time. For we, that are alive, the death of a person takes only few moments. But for the dying person, their "trippily" distorted perception of time may make this moments feels like forever. Forever being in hell of heaven.

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Originally Posted by Coelho

Well... what i will describe is only a theory, but for me makes sense.
Heaven and hell are described as timeless places we go after our death, and where we stay forever.
But time is relative. As every stoner knows, one minute can feel like hours... so what is one second for one people dont necessarily means one second for another.
Well... its believed that when our body is dying our brain is flooded with neurotransmitters and other substances, one of which is the DMT, a HEAVY hallucinogenic. And it makes the time to go slowwww.
So, i think both heaven and hell are states of mind, (or "trips" like some people would say) felt by people due the release of hallucinogens in the dying brain.
And, as every tripper knows, set and setting plays a fundamental role in the "trip". So, if a person was a good person, and had a positive view of the death ("when i die i will go to heaven"), then when it start to feel the hallucinations it will regard it as being in heaven. Yet if the people's view of the death were fearsome, the "trip" will be hellish.
And now enters the relativity of the time. For we, that are alive, the death of a person takes only few moments. But for the dying person, their "trippily" distorted perception of time may make this moments feels like forever. Forever being in hell of heaven.

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That's really interesting Coelho because I have the same belief! I don't actually know if and how you carry on after death, but if you do I believe the mindset you go out with affects whatever happens thereafter. And you're that dying is the ultimate trip, your body releases all it's seratonin/dopamine/endorphines hitting you harder than any hallucinogen could. As for DMT, I recall hearing about this, but doesn't it basically work by binding to certain seratonergic receptors?

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Originally Posted by Coelho

Well... what i will describe is only a theory, but for me makes sense.
Heaven and hell are described as timeless places we go after our death, and where we stay forever.
But time is relative. As every stoner knows, one minute can feel like hours... so what is one second for one people dont necessarily means one second for another.
Well... its believed that when our body is dying our brain is flooded with neurotransmitters and other substances, one of which is the DMT, a HEAVY hallucinogenic. And it makes the time to go slowwww.
So, i think both heaven and hell are states of mind, (or "trips" like some people would say) felt by people due the release of hallucinogens in the dying brain.
And, as every tripper knows, set and setting plays a fundamental role in the "trip". So, if a person was a good person, and had a positive view of the death ("when i die i will go to heaven"), then when it start to feel the hallucinations it will regard it as being in heaven. Yet if the people's view of the death were fearsome, the "trip" will be hellish.
And now enters the relativity of the time. For we, that are alive, the death of a person takes only few moments. But for the dying person, their "trippily" distorted perception of time may make this moments feels like forever. Forever being in hell of heaven.

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That's an EXTREMELY good explanation/theory. I like it! :rastasmoke::D

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Originally Posted by Nochowderforyou

Simply: There are people who believe and people who don't, so if I answer your question, you have to answer mine.

I am one who doesn't believe in God or the bible. That doesn't mean I am Athiest as they are just as close minded. I am not sure how we all got created, but I am not going to accept the first thing that is thrown at me. Why? Because the reason we are given why we are here is not logical. An invisable man in the sky and a ressurection is impossible logic. It is not proven. It is a man made prophecy and does not sound logical. I prefer to find these answers myself to why we were created and how we came about. That's my jouney to figure out. :)

Now, why are you so sure there is a heaven or a hell?

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im not certain on the existence or the lackthereof of either heaven or hell.....my question was directed at those who claimed differently

If there's a heaven, I strongly believe I will be there.

My definition of Heaven and Hell:

Well, sort of...

There was a time when all was normal. Then, when you can smell the roses, a piece of machinery introduces evil.

To me, hell is on Earth, but, not everyone sees it.

Heaven or Hell?
Wow. Well, I grew up in a religion that does not believe in hell so I've always focused on Heaven.
There may be a sort of hell where a gacy or dahmer or rameriz may go but I dunno.:wtf:
All I do know is when I die, I want to go to where ever my pets have gone. The rainbow bridge of course!:hippy:

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Originally Posted by Coelho

Well... what i will describe is only a theory, but for me makes sense.
Heaven and hell are described as timeless places we go after our death, and where we stay forever.
But time is relative. As every stoner knows, one minute can feel like hours... so what is one second for one people dont necessarily means one second for another.
Well... its believed that when our body is dying our brain is flooded with neurotransmitters and other substances, one of which is the DMT, a HEAVY hallucinogenic. And it makes the time to go slowwww.
So, i think both heaven and hell are states of mind, (or "trips" like some people would say) felt by people due the release of hallucinogens in the dying brain.
And, as every tripper knows, set and setting plays a fundamental role in the "trip". So, if a person was a good person, and had a positive view of the death ("when i die i will go to heaven"), then when it start to feel the hallucinations it will regard it as being in heaven. Yet if the people's view of the death were fearsome, the "trip" will be hellish.
And now enters the relativity of the time. For we, that are alive, the death of a person takes only few moments. But for the dying person, their "trippily" distorted perception of time may make this moments feels like forever. Forever being in hell of heaven.

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N,N-DMT to be exact. Present in almost every ecosystem on our planet.

"[The feeling of doing DMT] is as though one had been struck by noetic lightning. The ordinary world is almost instantaneously replaced, not only with a hallucination, but a hallucination whose alien character is its utter alienness. Nothing in this world can prepare one for the impressions that fill your mind when you enter the DMT sensorium."
-- Terence McKenna

But since it not here, these are my thoughts on the subject. And since they can be better illestrated through the words of BIG here it is

YouTube - The Notorious B.I.G. - Suicidal Thoughts (album version)

In acceptance with the fact that I don't accept jesus christ as my savior? (I alone am responsible for my actions, not some cosmic jewish zombie that wants me to symbolically eat his flesh and drink his blood and telepathically tell him I accept him as my master so he can remove some evil force present in my soul because some rib woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat some fruit.)

But based upon the way I live my life and the actions I take...yes I believe that I should be allowed into heaven. I am a good person. I don't judge people unless they give me a reason to do so, and I believe we are all equal, etc etc.