'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California

I'm really just kinda curious where this whole 'homosexual indoctrination' idea comes from.

Have you ever even met a gay guy? Why do religious conservatives think that gays try to convert people?

I don't really care what anybody else does with their genitals, and if you're committed to a marriage, you really shouldn't either! My penis, the wife's vag., that's as far as I'm concerned about sex. If a guy wants some butt sex in california I don't care because it doesn't affect me. At all. Zero. I still curl up in a committed relationship every night.

Oh and as far as no "MOM AND DAD", I never heard it growing up in school. I always heard "PARENT AND/OR GUARDIAN", and most everybody else did too. Is guardian offensive because it implies something other than devout christian parents?

And if you think freedom of speech ever existed in Americker's public schools, you're dead wrong. I remember several instances where I was threatened with a slap in the face for using a word, a common word, in a colloquialism. As an atheist, I find it pretty offensive that I would be physically punished for saying the three words "Oh my god." I don't mean it as "Oh, my dear GOD" but rather as a phrase you yell out like when you stub your toe or something. But I was in for a beatin' if I ever took the good lord's name in front of all those young innocent, good-ole jesus-worshippin American citizens.

I'm sorry, but Christians do not own morality.

Whereas 10 years ago I heard
"The United States were founded upon the principles of religious freedom"
now all I seem to hear is
"Americker was founded on good-ole Judeo-Christian values and that's what our country is."

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Originally Posted by Cooter McDoogle

I'm really just kinda curious where this whole 'homosexual indoctrination' idea comes from.

Have you ever even met a gay guy? Why do religious conservatives think that gays try to convert people?

I don't really care what anybody else does with their genitals, and if you're committed to a marriage, you really shouldn't either! My penis, the wife's vag., that's as far as I'm concerned about sex. If a guy wants some butt sex in california I don't care because it doesn't affect me. At all. Zero. I still curl up in a committed relationship every night.

Oh and as far as no "MOM AND DAD", I never heard it growing up in school. I always heard "PARENT AND/OR GUARDIAN", and most everybody else did too. Is guardian offensive because it implies something other than devout christian parents?

And if you think freedom of speech ever existed in Americker's public schools, you're dead wrong. I remember several instances where I was threatened with a slap in the face for using a word, a common word, in a colloquialism. As an atheist, I find it pretty offensive that I would be physically punished for saying the three words "Oh my god." I don't mean it as "Oh, my dear GOD" but rather as a phrase you yell out like when you stub your toe or something. But I was in for a beatin' if I ever took the good lord's name in front of all those young innocent, good-ole jesus-worshippin American citizens.

I'm sorry, but Christians do not own morality.

Whereas 10 years ago I heard
"The United States were founded upon the principles of religious freedom"
now all I seem to hear is
"Americker was founded on good-ole Judeo-Christian values and that's what our country is."

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Haha, you bring a good point indeed.

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Originally Posted by psteve

Yep.
Even tools of the right wing establishment use cannabis.
(I'm not saying that anyone here is one, because I know you're probably not, I'm just jokingly agreeing that many right wingers have used pot.).

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Cool!:thumbsup: Take it ya read my hint.......LOL

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

Howdy Y'all,

Don't worry,I'm sure that it won't be long before challenges and lawsuits are filed in regards to this measure,by both sides.

In the meantime,folks of faith who will be discriminated against in the public schools,should start withdrawing their children immediately before they git sued for everything that they own-because federal funds are based on the number of children in attendance at any given time.

Nothing panics a liberal educator more-than losing federal dollars(our dollars,btw-which they think that they own). :thumbsup:

Have a good one ...

When I was in school I was always told by teachers and staff that we have no rights as American citizens while on school property.

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Originally Posted by Torog

Howdy Y'all,

Don't worry,I'm sure that it won't be long before challenges and lawsuits are filed in regards to this measure,by both sides.

In the meantime,folks of faith who will be discriminated against in the public schools,should start withdrawing their children immediately before they git sued for everything that they own-because federal funds are based on the number of children in attendance at any given time.

Nothing panics a liberal educator more-than losing federal dollars(our dollars,btw-which they think that they own). :thumbsup:

Have a good one ...

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How can you continue to make such bold statements about "liberals" which have no foundation in fact or reason whatsoever? I read the text of this new measure and no where in it does it mention suppressing heterosexuality. The no "mom and dad" thing is just a propagandist fabrication supplied to you by your god-fearing christian news website. No lawsuits are going to be filed because all this measure does is protect homosexuals from harassment. No where in this measure does it mention the pro-homosexual training that your fairy tale newspaper claims. Half of what is in that article is an opinion and it is about as far from the truth as you can get. Read the bill and see if it mentions anywhere about promotion of homosexuality. You will find that it does not. It merely protects against discrimination against it, and protects against curriculum that would favor either lifestyle. We are not shoving pornographic depictions of homosexuals down the throats of our oh-so-innocent children and telling them its alright. That is completely ridiculous and I lack the ability to comprehend why any one would ever believe this. That's not even legal!

There are no laws protecting against discrimination of heterosexuals, simply because that is not a problem AT ALL. Maybe where you are from, you've been constantly harassed by gays for being straight (I'm assuming), but I have never seen a truck full of gay guys shooting paintballs at straight guys and screaming "PUSSY LOVERS!!!" Heterosexual harassment simply doesn't happen (at least not in my experience).

And I don't think it is a good idea to take all our kids out of school over misinformation, so they will all grow up to believe what they read at wack-job websites like WorldNetDaily.

Please explain to me, torog, what your problem is with homosexuals (something more intelligent than, "They are gross, they freak me out, and god says don't be one"). Were you raped? Did they try and "convert" you? Or do you just have a blind sense of aggression towards equality in our "free" country?

i think its giving kids too much damn rights.. i mean for reals?:wtf: they want to let elementary school kids choose to pee in the girls or boys restroom sitting down or standing up crossing their gender. wtf.. there kids.. learning the difference between the genders is a good thing... :wtf:this is still like a wtf to me.. arnold is NOW DEFINATELY fucking up. the U.S in general is Fucking up..lol:hippy:

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Originally Posted by JDMBoy420

i think its giving kids too much damn rights.. i mean for reals?:wtf: they want to let elementary school kids choose to pee in the girls or boys restroom sitting down or standing up crossing their gender. wtf.. there kids.. learning the difference between the genders is a good thing... :wtf:this is still like a wtf to me.. arnold is NOW DEFINATELY fucking up. the U.S in general is Fucking up..lol:hippy:

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Yeah, I forgot to mention that the part about boys being able to pee in girls restrooms is 100% false as well. That is an unlawful invasion of privacy and is no way supported by this measure.

i cant beleive some of this, why in the world do people want to be the "sexual orientation police"? Does it really matter who does what as long as it is done in the privacy of their own space? and..... if some people had not made such a big deal out of sexual orientation, it would not be such a big deal now. Discrimination is discrimination, it should not be tolerated. if it was...blacks would be still in seperate schools, and that would be a shame. i am proud to be an American, and female/reguardless of my sexual orientation, and live in California.
inbud
here is a PS for you all
my parents were teachers in the california system thier whole careers...needless to say many other teachers visited my home, when i was growing up..and i can remember three off hand that were gay..tho it was not gay back then....a counseler and teacher lived together too and i never once even thot i would grow up to be gay because i took classes from them. i wonder if the parents of the kids who took their classes even knew they were gay? Or the students themselves? I myself only realized after i was out of school....and the world was a different place.

I believe children should be home schooled anyway at least until we gain control back of our schools from the federal government.