Like they say...instead of sending them the best armor so they can go out and get killed with the best armor, bring them home, out of harms way ALIVE and to their families.
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Like they say...instead of sending them the best armor so they can go out and get killed with the best armor, bring them home, out of harms way ALIVE and to their families.
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Originally Posted by Captain Jack Sparrow
Got some real bad news for you.
America joined the war in Europe when it was almost over.
Hitler lost the war because of his stupidity, he made the same mistake as Napoleon , he attacked the Russians in winter.
The Battle of Britain was an important turning point during WW II because it stopped invasion plans that would have seen the last safe European haven (Britain) fall into German hands.
How many Americans took part in the Battle of Britain ??? ONE !
When they did eventualy turn up the Americans managed to make a complete farce out of thier part in what was the largest allied attempt to get a foothold in Europe. Research the debacle that was Omaha beach.
The Loan Lease agreement was Americas blackmail of Europe which was the only reason the Americans got involved in the first place.
It's 130 degrees, there's no weed, the women don't fuck, and everything explodes. So yeah, nerves are probably shot to shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf_The_Grey
back to the marines. when i came back from iraq we had one lay over and wernt even allowed off the plane. why? well the reason was simple the airport did not clear a terminal for a couple hundred armed soldiers to be in. when an aircraft would land at an airport with soldiers on board they have to submit the proper paper work to allow them to disembark into the airport. yes they had no explosives or ammunition but they were still armed. in my case i had an m-16 and an m-1911 (.45 cal pistol for the uninformed). the airport did not do this for politcal reasons but because some desk jockey failed to submit the proper paper work. the airport did what was right in their eyes to protect the civilians in the airport. you have to isolate the soldiers at an airport. not doing so gives the oppurtunity for military weopns to fall into the wrong hands. would it be better to inconvience a couple hundered soldiers or have a couple hundred civilias killed in a highjacking because some asshole decided to steal a pistol and highjack a plane? if this were more than an isolated incident i would say yes this was a liberal politial moved but it sounds more like the lazyness of some wanna be remf (rear esciallon mother f*cker).
yokinazu I don't understnad, why would you guys be carrying M-16's, even empty ones, while flying back home?
The enemies that marched on our soil are now dead.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
Those responsible for the actions of those enemies are an organization known as Al Qaeda and NOT the Iraqi government or its peoples. A good portion of Al Qaeda is either in hiding or dead at this point, and they were mostly being supported by the Taliban regime in Afghanistan, which we took care of pretty quickly and efficiently. There is absolutely NO conclusive evidence that Iraq had ANYTHING to do with 9-11. Sure, they might be harboring certain members of terrorist organizations, but at this point, what country in the middle east is not? Just because a country has potential terrorists within its borders does not make that country a threat to America (especially a threat great enough to go and sacrifice AMERICAN lives). If we wanted to look at it that way, we should invade every country in the middle east, most countries Europe (Britain, Spain, etc.) and even our own! Just because the government of certain middle eastern countries aren't waging an all out war on potential terrorists to the point where they sacrifice basic human rights protected by their constitution (Patriot Act, anyone?) doesn't mean that they themselves are terrorists.
Also, as you can probably see, radical Muslims deal harsh blows to those that they believe are traitors. If you were a leader of a Muslim country which is already an extremely dangerous place on the fence of anarchy, would you wage a war on your own people and their beliefs? NO! The repercussions would be incredibly severe and would probably result in your own death. This is not a wise move for a Middle Eastern dictator.
I am not saying Saddam Hussein or his regime was a good one. I know he was a vicious leader and his track record is by no means spotless, but if we had never invaded Iraq, life in the USA would be THE SAME OR BETTER. Maybe if we hadn't been so quick to wage a war on ANYONE with an opinion other than our own, then there would be a global feeling of sympathy towards the US instead of global (Muslim and non-Muslim) feeling of disapproval and resentment. We are doing the same thing that radical Muslims are doing (smothering those who do not align with our beliefs) but we are doing it with nice shiny armor and old men in suits telling us that its acceptable given our circumstances (and Muslims have the same argument).
I am not going to be quick to the draw and say that this war was about oil, or about Dubyah avenging his father's loss in Iraq, but I am going to say this: this war is unnecessary and is causing more harm (globally, not just in the USA) than good.
My best friend went to Iraq over this. He never came back. I had known him for 17 years. HE DID NOT NEED TO DIE FOR THIS! MOTHERS DO NOT NEED TO LOSE THEIR CHILDREN OVER THE IGNORANCE OF OUR LEADERSHIP! I DID NOT NEED TO LOSE MY FRIEND OVER THE "LIBERATION" OF A COUNTRY THAT DID NOT WANT TO BE LIBERATED! IT IS NOT OUR BUSINESS AND WILL NOT BE OUR BUSINESS UNTIL IRAQI'S MARCH THROUGH OUR STREETS!
Do not call me unpatriotic. I LOVE the concept of the United States, and I am proud to call myself an American, but there is a bold line between our values and our actions. Our current government is not representative of the principles on which this country was founded. Nowhere in the constitution does it say "Americans must be heroes and consider the business of all others their own."
I have much more to say but I feel this is sufficient. That's my two cents.
Extremely well put man ! :thumbsup::thumbsup:
Soldiers carry weapons back on the plane because this is who the weapon is issued to. Therefore no one is responsible for there weapon but that individual soldier. So until that weapon is turned back in, it goes anywhere that soldier goes. How do I know? Because i carried mine back in 2003!!!! Somebody asked this i dont remeber who.
^ that
LOL You eat with it ,sleep with it and treat it well, dropping or not keeping said weapon clean is always going to be punished severely. I know the drill :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Forwhat420