Not really a big time player but still a pretty good team with a storied history, and also the only publicly owned NFL team. They are doing better so far now than they have since the late 90's. The last few years have been rebuilding years after alot of their veterans left the team for various reasons or retired. Also there was a changing of the coaching staff too. They said last year something like 14 packers players were rookies, so its a fairly new team.