Myth about tap roots...

elway - I didn't mean to target you specifically, sorry if it came off that way. I in no way meant it as agressive, and certainly wasn't trying to push it down anyone's throat. But since I have only been here a few weeks, I feel like I have to back up my claims with evidence for people to believe me (ie - I feel like I haven't been around long enough to earn anyone's respect or trust, so I need to provide references and citations for the info I provide to justify to everyone it is legit info). I just want people to know that even though I am new around here, I am sincere in what I post, and don't just post BS answers - that there is a rhyme and reason to what I say. In time, I think many of you will (whether you like me or hate me) at least realize I know a few things (not everything by any means). But I do feel like I know much more than a typical n00b that may join the boards who could be 16 or 17 years old and not know the difference between a cotyledon and an internode. I just provided links to back up my claims since I am new. The prose and presentation may have been poor, but as you said it is very hard to detect tone via text. My apologies if anyone thought I was ranting. The only thing I rant about is the BS laws in the US and the pure evil of Harry Anslinger and the DEA. Now THAT will get me ranting until the sun comes up (or goes down).

I know it has backfired (for lack of a better term) - but I actually intended for the references to help identify me as someone who *doesn't* come out of nowhere acting like they know everything and not have any reputation or way to back themselves up in their knowledge. Instead of helping prove my sincereness, it seems like it has come off as me blowing my horn on how great I am etc etc. For that I truely apologize. My intention was the complete opposite. I hope some of you can at least see where I was coming from, even if you don't agree. Again, sorry - I just have the natural urge to need to include references (working in science for so long it beomes more than habbit - an addiction, almost, to provide citations).

May Jah shine on everyone and their ladies :)

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And I'd like to say PC and elway (and everyone else who was cool), thanks for being groovey about it and giving me the benefit of the doubt, much appreciated. :)

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Originally Posted by psteve

I use the 'germ jar' method. I've always had better success letting the tap go longer before planting. About 3/4" seems to work best for me. I've never broken one yet!
Here's a pic I just took of some Kali Mist and Pez seeds that I popped yesterday. They're going in the dirt right now.

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Nice Kali Mist, ps. That's what I've been posting pics of while it is flowering. My personal favorite strain for sure out of everything I've had so far :thumbsup:. It definitely lives up to it's reputation of being a growers favorite, and if I were in business it would surely be the personal stash strain of choice IMO.

What's the jar technique? I've never heard of it.

And I'm afraid I have to agree...my understanding of the tone of the thread was from somone new here popping in to tell us that we're all wrong about things. Yeah, we are normally a relaxed crowd. Until, perhaps, something like that happens. ;)

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Originally Posted by Weedhound

What's the jar technique? I've never heard of it.

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Take a small jar, and line it with a folded paper towel.
Wad up another paper towel and put it inside to fill the space.
Put some water (with or without a drop/pinch of your favorite root growth stimulator, I used soluble micorrhizae) in the jar, enough to soak the paper towel, the drain the excess.
I've also seen people use a wet T-shirt.
Pull back the edge of the folded paper towel just enough to drop a seed halfway down, then replace the towel.
Repeat this all the way around the jar (see photo), as close as 1 seed per 1/2 inch.
Put the lid on, but not tight.
Put the jar in a warm place without too much light, and wait until the sprouts are the desired length for your preferred rooting method.

Cool, had terrible issues with last couple sets of seedlings so am looking for new ideas.....one that I don't have touch (read: drop, squish, ruin) are more my style for some reason. Do you guys use tweezers or what to move the seeds from one spot to the other....that's the part I'm really afraid of.

Thanks.

Delta- well your practically proved and admitted in your last post what I was accusing you of in the first place. Instead of just coming on here and post an opinion or begin a thread about something you felt you had the need to prove yourself because you are new in this community. I picked up on that right away. We take everyone's opinions here into account and try to learn what we can, but a rant about something that is of no consequence like a tap root, isn't going to alert people to your knowledge, I think it just raises an eyebrow. It did come across as a rant and a un-necessary drive to prove your worth. Yes you are new around here, and no I don't hate you. I have no beef with you whatsoever. We are laid back here, but you will find that we are a VERY honest community.
I guess what I was trying to say from the get go and it's been dropped, is that coming into a new community knowing that you must know more than some of the growers on here and finding a way to prove it in a hurry is not the attitude to have on here. We can smell it a mile away. Your knowledge of horticulture and botany will be helpful to others on here, and people that are more advanced than you will gladly help you when you are needing it. THAT is what this community is for. We make friends and combine our knowledge so we all have ALL the knowledge and help we need to be better and happier growers COMBINED.
That's it. we are cool, I was just being honest. I appreciate your reply and honesty on your last post to me. I hope all goes well with your plants.
oh BTW did you adding more nute decrease the yellowing on your girl?? Just curious and I haven't heard an update on that..
good luck,
Elway

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Originally Posted by Delta9Haze420

Oh dear Jah - I am a scientist, that means unless proven wrong (in a scientific way), I believe what science has proven. ..

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PAGING D9!!! PAGING D9!!!! LOGIC NEEDED IN THE SPIRITUALITY FORUM!!!!

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Oh wow... I posted that last bit before reading through the rest of this thread...
We've got a lot of brainiacs chiming in on this thread, with a lot of collective experience, can we all keep our egos on a short leash? Not to say I haven't been guilty of the same... but... this WAS an argument about gravitropism and now it's about whether any of us are trying to write the next definitive text on which direction to plant the fucking seed. This doesn't bode well for more complicated subjects, lol!!!

Can I say for the record, the tap root down thing is good to have posted as part of nOOb instructions- a lot of beginning growers DON'T have to scientific background to make judgements as to whether their tap is too long to just stick in the dirt any which way. Obviously we all know our shit here and can judge better. I'm going to continue to tell the nOObs to plant tap down, and I will also continue to plant my personal grow with teh tap, barely emerged, preferentially down, but I'm not gonna stress it if it's sideways!!

Excuse me while I return to my pesto avocado bagel. It is too early to argue about this any more.

sorry, I was just bugged. Shoulda left it alone.. Cheers!

Oh I don't blame anyone in the least for wanting to argue the subject, really.
It's a good one.
No worries all around.