Global Warming is not caused by humans.

I see this is some Debate..............who will debate, to save you from your areas climate desaser?? I would debate with you but, one .....I dont debate, two......if this is a debate then we must be in a parallel univers, casue so far I see blogs, and a cppa artical (I might be mistaken but arnt theyfunded buy the petrolume peoples)

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Originally Posted by YouAintKnow

The evidence you use to support you're statement is astounding.

And who says both can't be the cause?

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Another thing wrong with this argument is that it is opposite. While everyone thinks that co2 caused the rise in tempurature but it could very well have been that the temp rise came first. When using proxy data there is no way to know.

Oh, the southern hemisphere is actually cooling. talk about cherry picking.

From what I can find from charts here and here, here (USGCRP.gov), here (NASA), here (The Paleoclimate Record and Climate Models)...

The southern hemisphere is heating although albeit a little cooler, although still heating. QED.

Damn guys the writing is on the wall for us and we will cheer at our own demise. You can quote me I dont car anymore

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Originally Posted by onequestion

Another thing wrong with this argument is that it is opposite. While everyone thinks that co2 caused the rise in tempurature but it could very well have been that the temp rise came first. When using proxy data there is no way to know.

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dude you're full of crap.
"it could very well have been...there is no way to know"...boy, there's no ambiguity there and a lot scientific data and research to back up your claim

you really think you're much smarter and have a lot more evidence to back up your claim than the scientists, professors or other scholars who study this shit for a living? again, where is your evidence?

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Originally Posted by onequestion

Oh, the southern hemisphere is actually cooling. talk about cherry picking.

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lmao...are you serious? are you just picking things out of your ass or are you actually referring to specific scientific data that supports your suggestions?

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Originally Posted by cacayjunasian

dude you're full of crap.
"it could very well have been...there is no way to know"...boy, there's no ambiguity there and a lot scientific data and research to back up your claim

you really think you're much smarter and have a lot more evidence to back up your claim than the scientists, professors or other scholars who study this shit for a living? again, where is your evidence?

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The scientist promte this because there is a shortage of wel paying jobs in scientific research right now. If they say that global warming is real they might go poor. A lot of them do it because they know that believing in global warming would be good for us anyway to lower our dependance on foreign oil so its not like they are evil.

Also data from proxies such as the ice samples we used to get co2 readings, can never be exact and the global warming changed locations to very drastically different locations, the newer one actually is a volcano that spews co2 all day long. No wonder the graph went up.

The graph also proves nothing even if we pretend it isnt junk. It doesnt prove anything. The population of pirates has also been on the decline so you can also argue that that is the reason for global warming.

And here is the southern hemishere coming straight from nasa. http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/New...062417194.html. As you can see, the global warming people do cherrypick evidence.

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Originally Posted by onequestion

Present me your evidence that global warming is caused by our co2 emissions and I will show you why every piece of evidence you present to me is either untrue, illogical, irrelevant, or just plain old junk science. And if you just wanna come here and say how stupid I am for saying global warming is fake dont bother, I want debate not name calling.

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I completely agree.

Yes, the world is getting hotter, but theres no real proof what so ever it's because of us, and untill there is REAL proof, i beleive it's natural.

I'd urge everyone to spray deoderant in the air and rag your cars about for all it's worth!

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Originally Posted by onequestion

The scientist promte this because there is a shortage of wel paying jobs in scientific research right now. If they say that global warming is real they might go poor.

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people don't become geologists to become rich or wealthy, they do it for the love of the job. Geoscientist Salaries

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Originally Posted by onequestion

A lot of them do it because they know that believing in global warming would be good for us anyway to lower our dependance on foreign oil so its not like they are evil.

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scientists don't have hidden agendas. they compile evidence from studies and research and lay it out for the masses. that's it. what do scientists gain by a country not being dependent on foreign oil....absolutely nothing. even in these times, we ignore or blow off scientists and their findings. aristotle, galileo, einstein were all outcasts because of their findings, but none of them had hidden agendas. they were just scientists for god's sake.

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Originally Posted by onequestion

Also data from proxies such as the ice samples we used to get co2 readings, can never be exact and the global warming changed locations to very drastically different locations, the newer one actually is a volcano that spews co2 all day long. No wonder the graph went up.

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the reason why they do studies in the arctic is because the air and ice are almost uncontaminated. there's barely any pollution that would interfere with their research. the same goes for the air around hawaii. it's an island in the middle of the freakin pacific ocean. sure there are volcanoes, but volcanoes have always been there. how come in the recent history it has skyrocketed? to do this kind of accurate and precise work, the places pick the scientists, not the other way around. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...-Mauna-Loa.png

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Originally Posted by onequestion

The graph also proves nothing even if we pretend it isnt junk. It doesnt prove anything. The population of pirates has also been on the decline so you can also argue that that is the reason for global warming.

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so you don't like those graphs, i get it. ok, how about these graphs from the same website that you used EO Study: The Migrating Boreal Forest Page 4
you can't deny these facts. the fact is that the temperature of the earth is in a direct relationship with the amount of co2 found in our atmosphere. the current warm period is historically at the highest it's ever been in over 450,000 years and you think it's just coincidence we also have the highest levels of co2 in our atmosphere?

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And here is the southern hemishere coming straight from nasa. EO News: Research Supports Theory that Ocean Currents Redistribute Heat During Warming and Cooling - June 24, 2004. As you can see, the global warming people do cherrypick evidence.

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did you even read the whole article? it suggest that more research needs to be done to draw any conclusions. it's just a theory. and talk about cherrypicking, the southern hemisphere doesn't even come close to the amount of land that the northern hemisphere has to provide data for a thorough sediment research. they listed chile and new zealand, and not like they have a ton of more places to back up these claims.