christianity?Is it good or is it wack?
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Originally Posted by Belleza
wow i think ur the first christian that ive seen admit that it was a threat. that's kool.
Well all Christians weither they admit it or not are scared of hell... and that is why christians do what they do... they are trying to get to heaven not hell... I mean think about it... if there was no hell (in christians eyes) why would we even goto church?? What would be the worst thing to happen to us?? Not hell... so it couldn't be that bad... I understand some people follow God out of love and stuff... and so do I... but still its in the back of their mind somewhere... "I don't want to goto hell, I better do what God wants"
christianity?Is it good or is it wack?
French-
YOur a Chrsitian thats why I do this:
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Originally Posted by FrenchInhale
they are trying to get to heaven not hell...
Galatians 2:18-20 (New International Version)
If I rebuild what I destroyed, I prove that I am a lawbreaker. For through the law I died to the law so that I might live for God. I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.
Galatians 3:10-12 (New International Version)
All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written: ??Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.? Clearly no one is justified before God by the law, because, ??The righteous will live by faith.? The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, ??The man who does these things will live by them.?
Rev. Micahel T
Soldier for Christ
christianity?Is it good or is it wack?
"people say... nah fuck christianity... because they don't want to adhear to the rules of it... not doing something because it is a big threat is bullshit"
for fucks sake. I dont want to 'adhear to the rules' because I WANT TO LIVE MY LIFE HOW I CHOOSE! Thats why im not religious.
"not doing something because it is a big threat is bullshit"
You said Christianity is a threat, and thats why you choose to be Christian. So, if the threat you talk about is the threat of going to hell, then why would that stop people becoming Christian? Surely it scares people into becoming or staying Christian? That arguement is stupid. Nobody is scared into not becoming a Christian. Nobody is decieved into not becoming a Christian, and nobody is wrong for not becoming a Christian. Damn. You like to make it look like youre right, everybody is wrong, and how everybody picks on you for being a Christian. You know people do that? Because to be a Christian you have to believe that EVERYBODY ELSE IS WRONG so you go round acting arrogant, saying to people 'yeah youre gonna go to hell'.. thats why all atheist/agnostics/non religious people all gang up on Christians, because unlike some Christians, we have an open mind and can listen to your beliefs, and question what we believe, but youre stuck in youre ways, always thinking everybody else is wrong
christianity?Is it good or is it wack?
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Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR
"people say... nah fuck christianity... because they don't want to adhear to the rules of it... not doing something because it is a big threat is bullshit"
for fucks sake. I dont want to 'adhear to the rules' because I WANT TO LIVE MY LIFE HOW I CHOOSE! Thats why im not religious.
"not doing something because it is a big threat is bullshit"
You said Christianity is a threat, and thats why you choose to be Christian. So, if the threat you talk about is the threat of going to hell, then why would that stop people becoming Christian? Surely it scares people into becoming or staying Christian? That arguement is stupid. Nobody is scared into not becoming a Christian. Nobody is decieved into not becoming a Christian, and nobody is wrong for not becoming a Christian. Damn. You like to make it look like youre right, everybody is wrong, and how everybody picks on you for being a Christian. You know people do that? Because to be a Christian you have to believe that EVERYBODY ELSE IS WRONG so you go round acting arrogant, saying to people 'yeah youre gonna go to hell'.. thats why all atheist/agnostics/non religious people all gang up on Christians, because unlike some Christians, we have an open mind and can listen to your beliefs, and question what we believe, but youre stuck in youre ways, always thinking everybody else is wrong
Im not saying anyone is wrong.. I was saying what I thought was right... I don't ever walk around telling people they are goin to hell... I couldn't care less about what people believe... I was just saying that I what I think a lot of christians think... if you aren't a chrsitian than my post didn't really apply to you... and christianity is not a threat... hell is a threat... look at the middle ages... teh catholic church started preaching about hell to scare people in to believeing...
christianity?Is it good or is it wack?
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"not doing something because it is a big threat is bullshit"
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that quote was ment for Belleza because she said something about she didn't want to do chrsitianity because of something I dunno... that was not a general comment on people who don't believe... it was a comment to someone that said the reason why they don't believe in christianty... read all the posts before you start jumping down someones throat.
christianity?Is it good or is it wack?
that's not really the ONLY reason i'm not Christian. and just because i'm not christian or follow any "christ" religions, doesn't mean i'm not religious. i have my own beliefs that are completely different, that's all. i don't like how u christians on here get offended so easily. damn, and when ppl talk about christians, they don't nescisarrily mean you.
christianity?Is it good or is it wack?
Christians are week and meek.
christianity?Is it good or is it wack?
christians are funny seriously
christianity?Is it good or is it wack?
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Originally Posted by meek mike
Come one, they give food to the homeless, cloths to the homeless, money and food to starving people all over the world, Hospital, Daycares, a place for groups like AA, Tough Love, etc. Another funny thing about your post is you forget about the other thousand religions that get tax right offs as well. But of course hatred does have tunnel vision.
Actually if they are trying to convert you then they want you to go to there belief of heaven. Thats very selfish of them huh. To think they want people like yourself to skip hells fire and party forever in heaven with them and God. Whats dicks.
I hope one day this fire of hate inside you for Christians will burn it self out and you can then start thinking clear about them and thier beliefs instead of this crazy conspericy thoery of money hungry people trying to convert others not to get them in heaven but to take thier money.
God Bless you Larry and I pray that he will lead you to the inner peace you are chacing after.
Rev. Michael T
Soldier for Christ
Yes, some churches give money, food, shelter, clothing and whatnot to people who cannot afford them. But, if every church were to do so, then there would not be nearly as many hungry, underclothed homeless people. Instead of giving a hand up they are giving a hand out. They are keeping the homeless the way they are, because it makes them look good. If the churches actually gave a shit, they would take in the homeless people, clean them up, get them any medication they need to become as "normal" as possible and get them jobs so that they dont have to be homeless anymore. Where are the churches doing that?
Also, you mention the other thousands of religions that get tax write offs because of being a religion. What you dont mention is the fact that there are a few religions who feel it is their duty as members of society to pay taxes and help keep the country they live in running. I am a Satanit priest, and I do not claim a tax exempt status simply because I feel that it is wrong for religions to not pay taxes simply because of the fact that they are a religion. I feel all religions should be taxed, and if they were we could erase the national debt in a matter of a couple of years. The Christian church in all its glory and love, still brings in billions of dollars every year. Most of which is not spent on helping others. Nor is it spent on building upkeep. Also, why exactly is it that churches need to be huge and as ornate as they are? You do know that nothing in the Bible is actually the words of Jesus right? All his teachings are filtered through the minds of the authors of the Bible. Did you know that Jesus did not want a religion/church built on his teachings? Did you know that he taught you could worship anywhere? Did you know that it is the church that has corrupted the true teachings of Jesus?
As a Satanist, I believe that Jesus did exsist, as a man. I feel that he had some good ideas on how to live ones life, but I do not believe that he was the son of God, or that there should even be a Bible. The stories in the Bible are some of the most gruesome stories ever told, yet it is worshipped as a textbook from God.
Also, if the church wasnt in it for the money then why would they ask their parishioners to donate 10% of their earnings before taxes? Does God really need money? Does God really need an elaborate set up of a church? Does God need people to preach to those who dont want to hear it? The answer to all these questions, if you believe in God, is no.
And what about those televangelists? They are ordained ministers of God and Christianity. Are you to say they arent in it for money? I was flipping through the channels a few months ago and happend to stop on the Christian network for some reason, and guess what I saw. I saw Benny Hinn on TV wearing expensive clothing, paid for by church tythings, and what was he on TV for? To announce that they had just launched their 50th $10 million satelite into orbit. Now, you do the math here. That is $500 million spent on satelites alone. How many homeless could that have fed clothed and got jobs for? Figure, if they were to provide each of the homeless people with a fully furnished house and clothing and food for one year, that would cost about, lets say $300,000 per person. That means they could have easly turned close to 200 homeless people into upstanding members of society. But did they? No. Why? Because launching all those satelites makes it so more people can hear their word so more people can contribute money to them and believe that the money is going to help people such as the homeless.
Unfortunately, I have to go get ready for work now, otherwise I would finish my rant.
christianity?Is it good or is it wack?
Why is it only the churches job to give? What have you done for the needy? Before you go pointing the finger, look at yourself. What have you done to better the lives of others? There are so many people who hate Christians, but I don't see much hate coming from Christians themselves. Christians are human like everyone, nobody is perfect, but Christians do try and improve their lives and the lives of others. Of course you can't stereotype Christians and say they are all good people, they are about as good as the rest of us. But what is wrong with believing in something that betters the life you live? What if...just what if Christianity is right????
