Does god say weed or alcohol is bad??

well i dont know what God says, but recent commercials have discovered that dogs are very opposed to weed. and dog backwards is god. so duh obviously. i mean come on thats basic shit right there

Why read the Bible? Just see what Jesus said himself:
YouTube - Jesus Smoking Marijuana In Ottawa

hehe ;)

It does say in Timothy 1 4:4 "For everything God created is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, because it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer."

I hate when I hear about over protective parents like that, my parents never were like that, hell, all my friends always wanted to get high at my place because my parents were pretty loose with stuff like that. My mom still tried to make me feel like it was bad or dangerous, she would go on the internet and print out a bunch of biased crap about the harmful effects of marijuana and leave that in my room.

Now I print out pages of data showing how marijuana helps fight against my Crohn's disease for some payback :smokin:

You could show her a list of diseases marijuana has been shown to help treat and then ask her how a drug that can do so much good could possibly be considered evil by God.

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Indeed! Some time ago i had an interesting experience. I had stayed 5 days without smoke, and was expecting how high i would be when i smoked again. Then, i smoked, become VERY high and then... i remembered my sick mom, my dad, my sister, and a lot of people i like. Usually i almost never think about them, as i am rather cold-hearted. Anyway, that day i was SO stoned that i felt with amazing sharpness a surge of care for them. So, i prayed for them. I spent the most part of my high praying for people i know. I remembered a lot of people, and remembered there is a lot of people i cared about. So i prayed for all of them.
Later i become somewhat disappointed for what i thought would had been an waste of the high. But at that time it seemed the only right thing to do, and i dont regret for doing this. After praying i felt SO good, kinda relieved... I think God really listened me.
And there is people who says weed is a devils thing... poor misguided souls...

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yea!Ive done the same!I repentd and everything.I ask him to give me signs if it really is him and sure enough.Its not cuz im high or tripin out.I ask him to do it again to make sure and sure enough he does.Then i feel really good inside and i get tingly....Ohhh just like now..i just got the tingle.

Man... ive felt this tingly thing too, while praying... its really a very deep feeling...

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It does say in Timothy 1 4:4 "For everything God created is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, because it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer."

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thats a good one : )
i like this one becuase its in genesis and on the first page of the bible, the wording changes slightly from bible to bible but it all means the same thing


"Genesis|1:12 And the earth brought forth grass, and HERB YIELDING SEED AFTER HIS KIND, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God SAW THAT IT WAS GOOD"

it could be... why not? God is everywhere...

Yo your general perception of god is driving me insane just from the ignorance of it all..its not like an if..then thing. Gods not gonna be like you drank and smoked now you must PAY mwhahahaha. But I have read from masters that drugs will cause a slower vibration which is what hell is, heaven is high vibration.

I don't want this to turn into a "my way is best" argument! We should all cooperate and try to help others on their path to enlightenment, even if they walk a different path than ours.

"There are many paths up the mountain, but the view from the top is the same." Old Chinese proverb

We all have to find our own way up that mountain, and my path is not your path- nor does it need to be. Finding your own path is important. Accepting other's paths as different, but as valid as your own, is equally important. Most paths go up, some appear to meander around at the same level, and a few are deliberately heading downward.

I am Wiccan. My best friend is a devout Christian. We are both wise enough to see the beauty of each other's path and respect the other's choice. The way we view "the Divine" is a personal choice, and since each one of is unique, each of our views is also unique. Each of us feels that our view of "the Divine" is correct and it IS- for ourselves!

Pure-I agree that most "drugs" just bring out your "lower self". Marijuana is far more complex in its effects on the psyche- it can bring out aspects of the higher or lower self, depending on setting, dosage, strain and intent- so it should not be classified merely as a vibrational-lowering "drug". Then there are the medical aspects- it's easier to think clearly when you aren't in pain! I have found it has a positive place in my path. - Granny:hippy:

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I don't want this to turn into a "my way is best" argument! We should all cooperate and try to help others on their path to enlightenment, even if they walk a different path than ours.

"There are many paths up the mountain, but the view from the top is the same." Old Chinese proverb

We all have to find our own way up that mountain, and my path is not your path- nor does it need to be. Finding your own path is important. Accepting other's paths as different, but as valid as your own, is equally important. Most paths go up, some appear to meander around at the same level, and a few are deliberately heading downward.

I am Wiccan. My best friend is a devout Christian. We are both wise enough to see the beauty of each other's path and respect the other's choice. The way we view "the Divine" is a personal choice, and since each one of is unique, each of our views is also unique. Each of us feels that our view of "the Divine" is correct and it IS- for ourselves!

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I agree completly... unfortunately most people dont think as you, and therefore there is so many discussions, conflicts, and even wars caused by different religious views... sad but true...
The world would be a FAR better place if everybody could be as wise as you.

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Pure-I agree that most "drugs" just bring out your "lower self". Marijuana is far more complex in its effects on the psyche- it can bring out aspects of the higher or lower self, depending on setting, dosage, strain and intent- so it should not be classified merely as a vibrational-lowering "drug". Then there are the medical aspects- it's easier to think clearly when you aren't in pain! I have found it has a positive place in my path. - Granny:hippy:

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I prefer to think the weed brings forth your inner self. If you have an evil nature, weed will make you more evil. If you have a good nature, weed will make you more good.
And, of course, your intent while using the weed (or any psychedelic) makes a great difference too... If you use it with good wishes, seeking wisdom and enlightenment, im sure you will find it. But if you only want to be driven out of your mind, or be crazy, im sure you will.
(Thats one of the reasons why i think mixing weed and booze usually produce bad results... booze definitively is not a good thing... and maybe the weed resents of being mixed with such impure thing... but that is only my thought.)
I think just saying "drugs lower the vibrations" is a bit of generalization... Like what the government says "all drugs are bad", "weed is as bad as heroin", and so. Maybe some "drugs" really does it, but im sure there is some psychedelic substances which can enlighten you. And i think an enlightenment could be a good thing, not a lowering/hellish thing.

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