Death

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by reaper666

How is that a fact?

---

Because your awareness/consciousness is a collection of thought-energy that operates in a matrix of its own energy patterns. Energy can not be created nor destroyed so the energy must remain in some form. Remember also that our bodies, like everything in the tangible universe, are comprised of matter. And matter is essentially comprised of energy. So all of this energy still exists in at least one dimension if not more, and I can think of no reason why this bundle of organized thought-energy cannot function much the same way it does when it is housed in our brains.

EDIT: I forgot to mention that I am not afraid of death. I think drowning would be particularly uncomfortable, though.
There are only two things that I truly fear:
-Something bad happening to somebody that I love when theres nothing I can do.
-Myself when I get angry beyond the point of no return.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by reaper666

I understand that, in fact that's the foundation of my whole theory of life but I think he was implying that he would remain conscious forever, not that the constituents of his conscience would remain in the universe forever.. or am I misunderstanding? My understanding of conscience is that it's like a machine blah blah I've explained it a hundred times but I don't think that machine remains running after death, i.e. being conscious forever. What he was saying is similar to the idea that your soul lingers forever and you are a conscious being in a non-tangible body which is NOT fact. What I think happens is the constituents of our bodies and minds are simply recycled into nature by decomposition and basically "reincarnated" (not in the mystical sense) by being turned into essential building blocks for other organisms.

---

Hmmm thats an interesting view, but I am inclined to respectfully disagree with you. I believe the arranged matrix of thought energy can totally function in most the same way that it did when it used our brain as a link to our 3-dimensional reality. I also believe that due to the properties of this bundle of energy, it is able to exist partially in our dimensions, and also in a separate dimension due to how the energy vibrates.

If you want me to get REALLY crazy, I believe that even when we are alive our consciousness is not really house here on Earth in our brains, in these three dimensions... but I believe its housed in this separate dimension along with all other individual conscious bodies of thought-energy in existence. So in my humble opinion, who we really are, our collective subconscious/consciousness never stop functioning.

Thats just my opinion though, and like you said almost none of the words on this page are fact. They are supposition as this material is purely theoretical. So lets not take FACT into so strong account, as we are probably divided about what fact should be as well.

No, I'm not afraid of death, although I used to be.

The only thing I'm really afraid of is God.

I used to be afraid of death. I think it was always much more than being afraid of the unknown. When we think of death, there is a spiritual darkness that we sense within our hearts, it's a shadowy image that we cannot trust, it evades our grasp . It's a cold place that's hidden from love and a sense of personal contact. Even without the zombies and ghouls and ghosts, which are in themselves a of manifestion of death, we can sense the bitterness, harshness and corruption of spiritual death in our own members, which is a manifestations of spiritual death, and in it's natural course is an allegory of spiritual death being born of corruption.

I've heard people say how if this is all there is, then life is pointless. And I totally agree. Personally, that was a major thing that pushed me to seek out what I know and believe now. But how do you reconcile the love and hope and joy you wish to have now while still recognising the hopelessness and oblivion that's always ready ? Even if we only die and that's it like atheists believe, I find the value of life so incredible that the idea of losing it all is absolutely miserable.

I think to me, nomatter how much I may have disliked the alternatives, I always had hope that I could find something to reconcile the love and humanity, justice etc. I needed, and what happens to everyone and why it happens when we die. I became very honest with myself because I knew it was vain to seek out something perhaps I didn't want to find.

death doesnt really scare me a whole lot, i kno at some point we all have to leave this earth, the only thoughts i really have about it are how, like i want to go out quick and relatively painless...like 2 bullets to the back of the head, yeah it sounds harsh but the person being shot will not feel anything as the speed of the bullets will kill on impact..

dying is the easiest thing in the world, living is the hard part. I don't look foward to the pain of death (assuming i die from somthing painful), but if I can die in my sleep, or get "headshotted" and die quick, then it shouldnt be too bad, it will be over before you can even realize it. My greatest fear regarding death is to "know I am about to die", and then die. Like being on an airplane that is about to crash or somthing. I just hope if that ever happens I don't act like a pussy and shit my pants or somthing.

i feel garzi is hitting the nail on the head bout life. I must ask tho have you ever experinced a high were the only thing your mind could focus on is your own death. I myself was once able to smoke weed all day and function. but now i have panic attacks altho i can control them i feel they are hitting at an important door in my life, death. now i only smoke to see how far i will let my mind take me into my own death. its the most real fear i have ever felt, not seen, felt in my life. If anybody can relate whats it like for you????? and it doesnt matter how long i put off smoking the effect is still the same i see death spec my own i can hear it and feel it. I know the fear is deep with in my inner being. I know this fear is inhibiting my spiritual and 3rd eye growth into more aware states of consciousness. ANYBODY HAVE ANY ANSWERS????

i feel garzi is hitting the nail on the head bout life. I must ask tho have you ever experinced a high were the only thing your mind could focus on is your own death. I myself was once able to smoke weed all day and function. but now i have panic attacks altho i can control them i feel they are hitting at an important door in my life, death. now i only smoke to see how far i will let my mind take me into my own death. its the most real fear i have ever felt, not seen, felt in my life. If anybody can relate whats it like for you????? and it doesnt matter how long i put off smoking the effect is still the same i see death spec my own i can hear it and feel it. I know the fear is deep with in my inner being. I know this fear is inhibiting my spiritual and 3rd eye growth into more aware states of consciousness. ANYBODY HAVE ANY ANSWERS????