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What are you using to adjust your ph up and down ? ? ? ?
What lights do you have ? I think you had 3000 W ? ? ? and 1 600W hps ? ?
Did you down lode the grow report ? ? ? Evry thing you are asking is answered in the show`s by zandor and this Saturday is all abut ph in your hydro sys .....2 to 3 oz pr plant is`int shitt but 2 or 3 LB IS IF WE GROW 2 OR 4 PLANTS WHIT 2 TO 3 LB ....OOOOOOOOO YE THAT IS THE SHITT ! ! ! ! :pimp: :pimp:
Thanks for replying to my queries stoneinks, I'm very appreciative.
I did wonder if the pH thing was related to the stage that the plants were at today, just before coming online in fact.
So the same circumstances that might cause over fertilisation/nute burn can cause an increase in pH. What I mean is, like you said '...The ph up and down is cased by the plant deposit salt`s and minerals back in to the water...', so there becomes a build up of particular elements that not only affect the pH but also the EC/ppm/CF?
Practically speaking I have recently whitnessed this.
I can't install a bigger reservoir at the moment but I will consider it.
I've been reading the thread 'Another pH question' and it seems to have much useful info too with regard to pH. Some relevant to my circumstances and some, just useful info for the future.
I also visited dope_fiend on the web and it too is very useful and I will be indulging in some easy listening over the coming weeks. The board is quite useful for asking questions that require immediate answers even when the subjects are discussed and repeatedly discussed and the answers are already available to find. I prefer to ask as some people like to share and refresh the knowledge for themselves while teaching.
I do try to keep the garden (indoor) as clean as possible. Everything is that is used in the growroom is sterile on entry in so far as is achievable. Every harvest everything is steralised. Buckets and jugs and submersed hoses get cleaned almost weekly as do any reservoirs used for mixing. Even the cleaning utensils get cleaned. I'm cautious as I've seen many a crop destroyed by pests and foreign agent contamination. Pets are totally BANNED!
I use Growth Technology's pH down. Is their variation in performance across brands?
And to the lighting, just to round off, there are a total of 5 * 600W hps lights suspended in the garden. One of which is illuminating the hydro setup, but there is a total of 3kW of lighting in the immediate area.
As for overall yeild. My aim is quick turn-around. I'm not very fussed about vegging for months to get a plant to yeild lots of fruit. I'm after speed and quality without compromising what I was told by my Nute Supplier which was '...I should aim for 20 Oz per 600W bulb...', of which I'm now capable of exceeding in soil.
Thanks for giving me a few things to think about to increase success stoneinks.
Greetings readers. Visible changes as we enter week 2 of bloom.
The weather today has been relatively cool in comparrison to previous days. Overcast with little or zero sun penetration. The inside temperature was 28C upon leaving the garden.
I was quite taken back when I tested the pH to find that it was only 5.9. I did expect it to be more.
The EC reading was 1.2 - 1.3 also. I had to pause and wonder if the fairies had dosed the reservoir for me.
The new growth is looking good for day 1 of week 2 (day8). No addition signs of what I thought could have been nute burn. Everything is cool. There are now signs of roots emerging from the bottoms of all of the pots. Development appears to be very uniform, even with the odd one or two clones that some might have said 'wouldn't make it'. See pics below.
1. left tray
2. right tray
3. low angle from left hand side front corner
4. one pulled out for modelling purposes
5. low angle from the right hand side
1. random pot underside
2. random pot underside
3. pH meter for those interested in the devices used
I just ask`t abut the ph your using you see you can use vinegar and baking soda but this do not last for very long so IF you were using baking soda and vinegar you have to adjust it more often.
If you have 5x600w of light`s THAT??S prity NICE....20oz pr 600w is probably reasonable but mite be a little hard on your first hydro grow ! ! !
If I hade 5x600w I would go for a PERPETUAL GROW (if I can get the cash for some 600w light`s I will do it )
whit a PERPETUAL GROW :) you can harvest ??2 to 5 oz pr plant? EVRY 3 to 5 weeks ! !
Using 2 or 3 lights for flower (12/12)
1 light for veg (18/6 veg for 4 weeks )
1 light for you mom`s (18/6 never flower the mom`s)
this way I will harvest ??x? oz pr plant EVRY month :pimp: :pimp:
Thanks for following my posts stoneinks.
I've never tried using kitchen based chemicals within the garden. Vinegar or baking soda would be last on the list of products to consider if all were up to me. thats onlt because I've never whitnessed it used...
A perpetual grow is ideal. A regular fresh supply of bud is a great stage to be at. I'm almost working with a pertpetual grow myself. One room has 50 plants in week 6 of bloom, with 50 more in week 2 along side them; while the other room has around 20 blooming mother plants in week 4 of bloom while the hydro is at week 2. I'd like to understand this hydro and have one setup as pictured under each 600W in all locations. Then I'd seek implementing a weekly or fortnightly harvest. It's a great idea having bud on tap.
I'll look more at the future developments when this crop finishes.
Cheers for dropping bye stoneinks.
Greetings readers. Thanks for checking up on my 1st attempt at flood and drain.
So the weather was back to being quite warm today. The garden was at 33C. None of the plants seem to be locking down and development doesn't appear slow or impeded. I'll continue to monitor the rising temperatures very closely.
My reservoir readings were all within range. EC1.3 and pH 6.1. But today I decide it was time to flush with some pH balanced water. I scrubbed the reservoir of all the sedimented nutes and used a separate pump to drain the reservoir. I let the system run for a while flooding with the pH balanced water only.
I left the system on the timer so that a cycle could occur while I spent a couple of hours away. when I returned, I'm not lying, the plants looked to have grown quite a lot. But maybe i imagined it.
To the reservoir I added
-Voodoo Juice
-Barricade
-CarboLoad
-Fulvic F1
-Humic H2
-Sensi Bloom parts a&b (synthetic nute)
-Mother Earth Bloom (organic nute)
The EC was 1.4-1.5. A little high but I have high hopes. I don't mind having to drain the reservoir again, but I think these 9 day into bloom plants are ready for a little kick. The pH was 5.55.
Tomorrow will inform me if replenishing the reservoir has been helpul.
Unfortunately, the other plants in the garden are being looked after by someone else and they have let an infestation of spider mite/ white fly and god knows what else to spead throughtout the section of the crop they are maintaining. As far as I'm aware the plants had this problem on their arrival but joe bloggs didn't combat the pests even though they made out they would control the problem.
I've spotted the nasty webs being formed on a couple of the hydro plants and I'm annoyed. Tomorrow will include a day of insecticiding everything including that which I'm not managing if necessary.
I won't get into the politics of blame. There is a problem that requires solving and that's all there is to it. It will probably be a week before I know if the infestation is fully controlled. I'm glad I'm having this problem early while the plants are relatively small and easy to manage. Remind me in future that sharing a grow room can lead to episodes like this,...
thanks for catching up readers!!!
Welcome one and all and thanks for following up.
I forgot to switch the reservoir pump back on after replenishing the nutes yesterday. The plants coped and didn't show any signs of stress this morning when I went to do my rounds.
I purchased 500mL of Pest Off by Hydrogarden. I don't think it will control the spider mite things that are producing webs, but it will control the white fly. I also bought extra fly traps. My assosiate bought Fungus Gnat Off and some other stuff that didn't have a label.
In order to carry out the insecticiding I knocked the lights out and sprayed the room and its contents with 10L of pest off. It was decided too that because the weather will be getting much warmer over the coming weeks that the light cycle be reversed. The plants will now spend the rest of the day in darkness until 9pm tomorrow. The cycle will then become 2100-0900hours for daylight.
Even though I didn't switch the reservoir pump on yesterday, I still think I can identify new growth, which is quite good.
Tomorrow I shall mooch around to inspect for any living whitefly. I'll see what I can find to sort out the spider mites.
That was today. Tune in next time for the lastest. Cheers for reading!!
So I'm already looking at new strains to work with very soon. I've been searching the internet for suitable strains and have come up with a shortlist. If any of you have experimented with any of the strain I'm thinking about then your 2c will be appreciated.
Joint Doctor
- Lowrider 2
THC Seeds
-Norther Lights * Big Bud
Pukka Seeds Co.
-1159 Armageddon
-Sirius Skunk
Mr Nice
-Critical Mass
Delta9 Labs
-Stargazer
-Superstar
De Sjamaan
-Lemon
Biobizz
-Skunk * Big Bud
Flying Dutchmen
-Pot of Gold
-Early Durban
-Dutchmens' Royal Orange
Quite a few I guess, but I'm planning on ordering one batch from the above list. Any readers experiences would be appreciated very much..
Greetings on this peaceful Sunday afternoon as I smoke some good herb in the backyard listening to the sounds of The Detroit Spinners - It's a Shame; real oldskool.
How's it looking? Well today is supposed to be a day of darkness for the plants as I'm reversing the day and night cycle to contend with the daytime temperatures.
I entered the room during the night period for the plants. I know I shouldn't but these are exceptional circumstances as I was wondering how many of those white flys were still rampant in the garden. I wanted to know whether or not another blast of Pest Off was required. I found out that quite a few flys were still visible. I gave the crop another blast including the walls and anything I thought might house the buggers.
I wanted to get the insecticiding out of the way before the light cycle resumes. Doing this seemed to be one of the more straight forward options.
I've hung a total of 9 fly traps in the room and they seem to be filling up. Finger crossed for tomorrow as I hoping I don't see any flys at all.
I'm wondering about a product I can add to the reservoir to keep the spider mites away. I'm going to check the new traps tomorrow for any other flying parasites that I might need additional chems for, but the white fly was really bad so it had to be dealt with first.
To the Dro. I think the darkness hasn't harmed the plants. They looked really healty. I feel that they will explode once the lights start coming on again. The daytime temperature will then be more friendly to the plants and I feel it will help lots.
The pH was a little out of range lingering at 6.5. The EC was also 1.6. Signs that the plants are working!!! I emptied around 20L from the reservoir (actually 80L reservoir and not 60L as earlier mentioned) and topped off with pH balanced water.
The resaultant EC was 1.0. So I topped off the reservoir with a little synthetic Nutes (Sensi Bloom A & B) and liquid CarboLoad until the EC was 1.3. I then pH the solution to 5.5 again.
It wasn't essential that I added CarboLoad, but I find it as one of few ammendments I can keep adding and the plants love it.
That was it for today. My next visit will be a few minutes before the lights come on tomorrow evening. I will try some photography to show how they are coming on.
Thanks for reading!!!