As long as its not interfering with your overall quality of life or your goals in life its not abusing it. I mean is masturbating a lot considered abusing your genitals?
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As long as its not interfering with your overall quality of life or your goals in life its not abusing it. I mean is masturbating a lot considered abusing your genitals?
If some dude masturbates 4 times a day every day for a half-hour a pop that could get to the point of genital abuse. Dude'll rub himself raw (unless he's using lots of lube!). LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by mugen
... seriously though, overall I agree with you. In my line of work the adverse memory side-effects one encounters while being high (which as far as I know are scientifically proven) make it an interference to the quality of my work goals. I may be able to "pass" my classes or do my job okay... but in my opinion its not fair to myself to disable my memory in school all the time, even if its just a little bit. And its not fair to my future employer if I smoke weed on my way to work and on my lunch break every day. Statistically speaking, the quality of my work will be effected.
Now if memory is like zero part of someone's workday, I don't see how being high would hurt them everyday. But then again, I think if you have a job in which you aren't using your memory, you're probably not trying very hard to "excel" at your job... maybe you're just barely getting by. And I believe we should all strive for excellence in what we do. That's just my beleif.
Don't get me wrong... there are times that weed has helped me achieve excellence in my life... through creative thinking and problem solving especially. I don't think its wrong to work while high once in a while. But I think doing it all day every day is not natural and is not how we are meant to function through life. ... To each his own though...
That's true, but so is opium sap. Just because a mind-altering substance grows naturally in abundance doesn't mean its a good idea to do it for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jah420
I just see mind altering drugs as primarily recreational. And I beleive life should be a balance between recreation and work. I mean... don't get me wrong, I've worked high before. But its just not something that should happen everyday in my opinion.
Sorry, but isn't that exactly what we're doing when smoking then? The lungs don't create the oxygen or THC. They just take in the air or smoke, absorb what they want and expel the rest. I fail to see the difference...Quote:
Originally Posted by jsn9333
I'm just saying I believe if God intended for me to be high all the time, he could've made me that way. He could've filled the air we breath with molecules of THC instead of oxygen, nitrogen, and carbon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turtlepik
For there to be "high" there has to be "low" or "medium". If I lived my entire live "high" then I wouldn't even know what "high" was, because I wouldn't know what its like to not be high.
The thought of being high all the time is actually depressing to me. I love being high, don't get me wrong. But I love being 'sober' at time too. Both have positive sides to them. Balance and moderation, for me, is the way to go.
Now if we're talking "medicinal" use, that's a different story. But I can't see any reason for me, being a healthy, normal, happy person to aim to be high on THC or any drug, be it dangerous and addictive or not, every second of my life.
As god is equally responsible for MS, Cancer, ageing, god botherers, Dubya and just about every other misery inflicted on humanity forgive me if I don't give a toss what he wants.Quote:
Originally Posted by jsn9333
speaking from experience you can abbuse weed. Well after my ex girlfriend had my baby (she broke up with me when she found out she was pregnet) i started smoking pot heavily. all day every day to cover my emotion and frustration about the whole situation. my grades in school dropped off, and my attendence went way down hill.. i dropped out of school 2 times this year, and now i just sobered up after i lost my girlfriend.. got myself into councling to fix the shit that i have been smoking pot to cope with.. and that is abuse. now in due time, i will smoke pot recreationally. but its just going to be a reward for a hard days work. Like many americans come home and have a cold beer after work, i may come home to have a joint.
but pot has effected my life negitivily from how i was using it. and i have since relaized that you have to be mature about it.
I think the intrinsic and chemical properties of weed are totally irrelevant. Whether God intended THC to be in the body or not is irrelevant (after all, nothing in the body would exist if it weren't for the body's necessity to absorb foreign substances and assimilate them into tissue and energy and blood, etc.)
What is relevant is a given person's security and comfort with their own sober self (nothing conciously psychoactive in the body). If a person gets high to become desensitized to real-self emotions, or to feel more normal about his or her self, that would qualify as abuse.
Everyone gets angry or sad or frustrated, but too many of us use negative emotions as a justification for getting high in some way, and by doing so they totally numb the sequence of emotions that lead the person through character evolution up to the higher ground of having felt the full burden of one's emotions.They cheat themselves out of emotional growth, and become emotionally stunted. This is why you see 28 year olds who think and act pretty much like they are fifteen. That age is roughly when these self-destructive habits begin, and it's easy, so you keep doing it. It these people that give stoners a bad rep.
It could have been weed alone that stunted emotional growth, but normally there's additional substances.
The person who smokes weed responsibly is the person who smokes it when nothing is troubling him emotionally and he considers himself in a normal happy state beforehand.
There's no need for me to forgive you... that's between you and God. If He decides He wants you to give a toss about Him I have no doubt He is more then able to get your attention.Quote:
Originally Posted by PsychoticEpisode
I will say I think its both funny and a bit sad that we, humans, tend to blame the Divine for shit we brought on ourselves (especially Dubya by electing the bastard, but even disease and aging through our own sin). I'm not being judgmental of you specifically. I myself do the same thing sometimes.
But I have to remind myself that the fact that God put into place consequences for sin (lying, cheating, hatred, murder, etc... all or one of which we all have committed) doesn't make Him any more evil then my own father is evil for spanking my brother that time he shot my neighbors window out with his first BB gun and thought it was funny. And before you say spanking or any other form of parental discipline is insignificant, to a young child it can be emotionally devastating. But the point of it is to correct the child so he/she won't make the harmful mistake again.
I think of disease as our common punishment. We can focus on the negative and curse God, or focus on the positive and thank Him for the fact that pain, aging, sadness, and disease can actually work for good when those terrible consequences draw us back to Him and encourage us to be loving and help one another through hard times instead of cursing each other.
Quoted for truth. I have directed a friend to smack me around if I ever smoke to deal with my problems. I will return the favour if he ever drinks to deal with his problems. It's a good situation. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by burnable