Tell this guy all about it

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like saying weed makes people lazy - it doesnt. It doesnt strip them of all their energy, they just cant be bothered to use their energy...

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... because they're brain is too blitzed from constant bunnage. If it's not laziness, it's something else very similar :wtf: .

I agree with what your saying, but as I already said, it's something that can be applied to most substances. I'm not a violent person when I drink, but it's a known fact alcohol can make people violent. You and I arn't necessarily lazy people when we toke, but I know a few people that just wanna toke and toke and toke and think of nothing else, no matter how bad their position. The simple fact being, they wouldn't be that way without marijuana.

I toke hard hard hard myself, or at least have been up to now, and I get all my work done. Being a musician, I get my work done BETTER when i'm stoned :jointsmile: . Naturally, I can't really argue against marijuana from this personal standpoint, but I still feel the negative effects from constant daily use, as i'm sure you have at least once, being a proud veteran smoker and all.

We all know the bad effects are there, so whos to say they don't affect some worse than others? Not that it's entirely MJ's fault, but it's evidence of the danger. Like I said, a simple aknowledgment doesn't hurt anyone, least of all yourself.

"i didnt bother to read your facts, since you even said the sources didnt pan out"

Either smoking has made you less intelligent, or your just that way to begin with. Read the post again, then get back to me.

i do personal research everyday about the drug war and everything that has to do with it. i have no need to look at info that when presented to me, has to have a disclaimer for not citing sources. how bout you judge my intelligence when you know a little bit more about me. youre gonna get to some ppl when you are on a cannabis board talking about how it fucks you up. this is a pro cannabis board. maybe you should join that forum so you can fill other ppl's heads with ideas to cover up their shortcomings, but its not gonna work on me.

I figured the rest of us were having a realistic debate on a subject that perhaps isn't discussed enough on a "pro cannabis" forum. Don't bother coming back if it's beneath you.

I just read some of the previous posts, and i see the word Marijuana popping up alot.

Can we not use it? Because it was used by a racist american Government i dont think it should be used in the cannabis culture - i know it's not concidered racist today, but the fact of the matter is it's roots are and i dont like it.

Just a suggestion.

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Originally Posted by B.Basher

I figured the rest of us were having a realistic debate on a subject that perhaps isn't discussed enough on a "pro cannabis" forum. Don't bother coming back if it's beneath you.

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THIS IS MY THREAD DOUCHEBAG!

And yet your unwilling to consider various viewpoints on the subject?

I'm not gonna get into a flaming war, if you refuse to debate my view intelligently then just leave it alone. If I realised you only start threads so people can agree with you then I would've stayed well clear. My mistake.

If there's any chance of starting over, the lack of sources I mentioned was in regard to the first link about weed info (that I deemed to be fairly accurate either way). Therefore, to compensate, I dug up a few links to real scientific studies, complete with citations, that I thought you might find interesting or at least informative. Maybe you've already read them all, I dunno.

To explain myself for you and anyone else that thinks i'm out of line on such a forum, I still love weed. Matter of fact my folks just left for a 4 day holiday and i'm skinning up between posts. I've just had a pretty ugly month when it comes to weed this past four weeks and felt obliged to share my opinion. You don't have to agree but at least be civil about it.

Apologies for winding you up.

theres nothing to be civil about. i have read both sides of the story, and i continue to believe that "cannabis" (better LIP?) does not contribute to the downfall of anyones life. i believe that i can be used by anti-cannabis activists as a crutch for explaining this. i do consider your viewpoints on this, but they do not agree with my beliefs. i feel that if someone has ruined their life and wants to blame it on cannabis then that is fine. i just feel that one should look at their entire life before blaming it on that. i know many many people that smoke everyday like myself and continue to be productive. on the other hand, i know not one person that can actually say their life is in shambles because of cannabis. if someone is looking for an easy explanation, then why not blame it on what the gov't deems illegal? if someone allows this plant to ruin their life, then they need to get their priorities straight before dabbling in a mood enhancing drug.

lol he was smoking 2 8ths a week.... I usually smoke and 8th every day :p . He also called it an addictive substance ... well ya it is but he has to consider every substance is an addictive substance...... and oh jesus they were talking about na and aa... fuck that shit... but still he was in fact blaming weed because he is just a lazy fucker (hehe so am I but I am motivated also) and quit his job etc... and decides to blame it on weed ....