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wow those look great. idk if i mentioned it but coco rules soil lol. def know those ladies would be bigger in larger pots. but man, they look gorgeous.

i guess if you think those lower branches need some more time, chop the colas but if it were me i'd take it all down at once. great job though dai, ya did an excellent job.

mgm

So do you have to keep transplanting up in coco for root room like soil or is it like hydro in like the plant doesn't outgrow the space?

You can snip the main cola and let the rest go longer.....but be prepared that it will halt things for a few days while the plants collect their (now headless) thoughts and start up again.

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So do you have to keep transplanting up in coco for root room like soil or is it like hydro in like the plant doesn't outgrow the space?

You can snip the main cola and let the rest go longer.....but be prepared that it will halt things for a few days while the plants collect their (now headless) thoughts and start up again.

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Coco is a bit odd. Additional root space will create bigger plants and bigger buds but as long as you can keep the medium wet you can keep a plant in the same pot for an indefinite amount of time.

To give you an example.... the smallest plant I have a picture of, the one in the white pot, is in what I was told is about a 1 gallon pot. I did not transplant until at least 2 weeks into flowering from a small 4" pot into a 1 gallon pot. It is still flowering and looks healthy as can be. The buds aren't too bad either; however they aren't massive..... At the same time I think that plant is much bigger than most plants would be in a 1 gallon pot and this is due to the coco and it's near inert properties.

Salt build up isn't really an issue; coco is fairly inert; retains up to 300 times it's moisture and mixed in with a 1:3 ratio of perlite:coco it is very well aerated, It can handle a PH range of 5.2 - 6.8 (yes... it can really handle that wide of a ph range).

Because of all this the coco does nearly all the work for you so long as you can make sure your plants stay wet all the time. People on drip ring setups with coco grow some phenomenal plants.

I would stay with coco since I love it and have become a HUGEEEEEEEEEEEEEE advocate for it but I'm wanting to move away from a non resuable medium and having to move my plants from the grow room to the bathroom all the time.

So to go back and answer your question... Yes the roots get cramped but it doesn't flip out like it does in soil. Just look at my plant in the white pot :)

Thanks for the info Dai.

Yes..it's interesting because I germ every seed with rapid rooters. But I use a different ph depending on where I'm going to be putting the seed......5.6 ish for hydro and 6.5 ish for soil........but they are BOTH in the same rapid rooter so I've always wondered about the ph thing.

There's no getting around the ph issue though......if you get ph lockout it's a PITA to fix in soil vs hydro. How about coco?

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Thanks for the info Dai.

Yes..it's interesting because I germ every seed with rapid rooters. But I use a different ph depending on where I'm going to be putting the seed......5.6 ish for hydro and 6.5 ish for soil........but they are BOTH in the same rapid rooter so I've always wondered about the ph thing.

There's no getting around the ph issue though......if you get ph lockout it's a PITA to fix in soil vs hydro. How about coco?

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Well that's just the thing. It's very hard to get to a PH lockout situation even if the ph just fluxuate. You would have to dip into the 4's or the 7's.

I hand water the coco to waste (10-15% runoff) which ensures that you don't get salt buildup that could mess up the ph chemistry in your medium since coco is fairly inert; in addition to this I run a flush once every 4 weeks just like in soil or soilless.

For coco I try to keep my ph at about 5.6 - 5.8. Which I believe is about the same for hydro. The roots have better access to nutrient uptake at lower PH ranges; however you must use a lower TDS/PPM if you use a lower PH.

I pretty much just follow the instructions on my nute bottles and feed according to what their feeding schedule = in PPM. So far in coco I haven't exceeded 1000ppm at ph 5.6. I've read some people running a PH of 5.2 but running a PPM of only 800 or 900. I wouldn't want to go that low but people do it.

For rapid rooters regardless if it's going in hydro, soil, soilless or coco I have been misting them with ph 5.6 water. That's just me; I don't know if there is a "best" situation for ph'ing them. Probably the method you described (choosing a PH according to what your future medium is going to be) is most likely the best.

after rummaging through Weedhounds grow log I found some pics to compare my buds to

http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/...ml#post1937279

So it looks like I'm right on track. I have 3 weeks to go (roughly) and my nugs look like they'll do at least as well as Weedhounds but I doubt I'll hit the 10 ounces on Ike that she did.

I think if I'm lucky I'll hit 4oz per plant (average) and more likely to be 3 oz per plant.

I still can't complain though. The plants are looking fantastic.

Well I got 3 of the new clones to root and about 9-10 more still looking fairly good (considering I left the dome off). 3 of them are in the hydro setup and doing fairly well. I haven't noticed any growth but it hasn't been very long; Less than a week and they weren't super well rooted so they're probably still making roots.

Also a handfull of clones in the dome had some mold/grey fuzz growing on them. I amputated the effected parts and am hoping for the best. Tomorrow is Dec 5th and it doesn't ook like all my clones are going to be rooted well enough to put into the hydro setup but it does look like they're rooting and I'm fairly confident I'll come out of this with 12 clones or so.

I'm about to transplant my mother plant into a 2 gallon pot and take some more cuttings off her. I'm aiming for 30-32 cuttings and I'll pick the healthiest ones out of there.

I'll be buying a big sack of hydrotron today and some more pots. Looks like I get to have more fun washing/stabilizing hydrotron... w00t.


ps: It's amazing. My PH pretty much doesn't ever go above 5.8 now (in the hydro setup). I put in a little under 0.5 ml of ph down per 3-4 gallons of nutrient solution to drop it down to 5.5-5.6 and then allow it to rise on it's own over a 24 hour period.



So my check list for tonight:

• Check flowering plants to see if they need more watering.
• Change out the resevoir for current plants in the hydro setup.
• Transplant SNLxNH mother plant
• Wash out a 50L sack of Hydrotron
• Presoak the hydrotron in ph 5.5 water and check on the ph frequently.. drain the hydrotron out when it rises 3-4 points from where I left it and resoak in freshly ph'd water.

mold....too wet. Are you misting the clones themselves or just the dome and the rrs?

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mold....too wet. Are you misting the clones themselves or just the dome and the rrs?

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Just the domes and the RR and I only do it about twice a week. I think maybe some water may have leaked down from the dome onto the plants.

Plus the plants that got mold were the same plants that were on the verge of death after I left the dome off. They were kind of weak looking (you could tell they went through hard times) and I suspect that may also be a contributing factor. In either case I amputated all the necessary leaves and I think they'll make it through.

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PS....again....not knowing coco or what nutes your are running my plants went to 1950 ppms from about week 3 on to the time I flushed them so they take a good strong number of nutes.

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I don't know why I missed this until just now. You know that's a good question. I am feeding 16ml of PK 13/14 and 16ml of Boost per gallon. In addition I am using 4ml of calmag (which I am now cutting out completely since it contains Nitrogen).

Let me look up what that is equal to on canna's website and get back with you

I am going to estimate my tap water to be a harsh 350ppm (this is an estimate. I'm a bit in the poor house at the moment and can't buy a TDS until after xmas. I might ask my g/f to buy me one as a gift.).