Why God does not exist, in one sentence.

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Originally Posted by palerider7777

well if u read u can see thats what im saying, is everyone has one. he was calling people like me (fucking stupid)so i said what i said.

and as no one really knows other than having faith and there own thoughts on the subject and history to act like u know all thats where stupid comes in is when u start thinking u know everything lol.

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There's also a few other things that we can use. Logic and proof. I'll never claim to know what happened unless it can be proven. But from hearing many (but not every) side of out origins, these are my conclusions.

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Originally Posted by palerider7777

im not saying survive it,im saying people that think thats the way life was formed. to say ur chemical reaction theory or big bang theory ,that would take immense explosion / implosion to create life. And saying that is what happened is too far fetched. To say god did it that way?that's funny ?

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huh? I'm just saying that making life from previously "lifeless" cells and organisms is possible. What's far fetched about that? People are able to make real life viruses (imeaning, not computer viruses) in their basement. How can reality be far fetched?

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Originally Posted by palerider7777

I have , lets say, there is a god just for fun and the bible is true and ur life ends and ur in front of god ;what r u gonna say then??

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I guess I'd be wrong. But that's a dumb way to live life. "What if" there was a spaghetti monster, and the only way to get into the giant italy in the sky was through non-belief? Anyone that believed in any deity besides him would be stricken to an infinite sized bowl, with spaghetti forever on the horizon. Ultimate torture, never being able to eat again, but it's always in sight. What then?

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Originally Posted by palerider7777

And why is it so easy to believe in a king/queen as a higher power that makes them better than anyone else (royalty)but,to believe in a higher power, to create life, well, thats just crazy talk. why? so it's ok to u to put ur life in the hands of a few people like the government/king/queen that are the same as u (human)but, anyone that believes in a creator of all, then there dumb fucks ,well

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You're assuming that I think government is a good idea.

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Originally Posted by palerider7777

is that better for ya,i put all the lil ,.?!;:'" all them are there now i packed them in can i get a better grade now it's funny i could go threw these forums and find tons upon tons of bad writings

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I can as well. But most of the time I'm not speaking to them, so it is of no concern to me how they type.

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Originally Posted by palerider7777

but noone ever says anything unless they have nothing else they can down so they have to come up with sumthing i guess to make them feel better since they can't explain life and they start to feel dumb inside and they can't bring themself down to the human standard as they feel in there minds anyways far superior to just (human) oh i left them all out again so i can drop down from ur level of excellence

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I'm not bringing it up to belittle you or otherwise. I'm bringing it up so I can understand what you're writing. How can intelligent debate exist when one person can't understand the other? It doesn't matter how smart the two parties may be, if they can't communicate, they can't debate.

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Originally Posted by palerider7777

why do u not say anything to everybody else on here that right in clumps like i am now with nothing no ....."s nothing but oh well call me lazy as the rest of the people on here but sometime i do sometime i don't but i have noticed that when ever religion or politics come up everybody starts nit picking everything u say i like it tough keeps ur brain going

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it's your choice, of course. But it's not a lot of trouble to use punctuation so that people can understand where one of your thoughts begins and where others end. And if I'm trying to communicate with someone and they appear to be using a form of English that I somewhat recognize, then I promise you, I'll let them know.

There's also a few other things that we can use. Logic and proof. I'll never claim to know what happened unless it can be proven. But from hearing many (but not every) side of out origins, these are my conclusions
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if believing in life forming for no reason, and with no master plane is logic then i i don't want no part of "logic" and i like ur south park reference.but as far as having any logic...um no

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Originally Posted by palerider7777

if believing in life forming for no reason, and with no master plane is logic then i i don't want no part of "logic" and i like ur south park reference.but as far as having any logic...um no

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I'm not sure of this south park quote you're speaking of, as I've only seen a handful of episodes. If you want to believe that a god has a plan for newly formed bacteria, then go ahead.

Why, in your opinion, does there have to be a reason, or a master plan? Instead of saying you reject the idea of a plan-less universe because it doesn't live up to you idea of logic, tell us what your logic is based upon.

I'm not saying that it isn't possible for a god to exist, I just doubt it. I doubt it because I, nor anyone else i know, has credible proof of it. Just as the spaghetti monster could very well exist, I have little reason to believe it to be true.

spaghetti monster,came from south park so ur quoting a cartoon lol

well if thats the case, that matter changes and moves closer to other matter then why are'nt the planets getting closer together? and if thats the case then im right on humans not causing any global warming, it's the planet regenerating it's self.so thanks for the help on that so al gore is a dumb ass and anyone that believes that.

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Originally Posted by reaper666

The big bang theory isn't that it gave birth to humans. It's that it created, or at least scattered matter all over the universe. Matter has the strange behavior of attracting toward other matter (gravity) and over time, the theory is that the matter formed planets, stars, galaxies, etc. The theory goes on to say that over time after solar systems had formed and conditions had become ideal for life on certain planets (other than earth as well!), then very simple life forms developed. As these lifeforms became more widespread they changed and adapted to their environment and started competing with one another so evolution took place through natural selection and survival of the fittest and distinct species started to develop. Makes sense to me :what: By the way I don't look at "royalty" as being any better than anybody else, usually the people who are foolish enough to also believe in a higher being.

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I think we can sum it from your first sentence. The big bang is a theory.
There is no proof of the big bang even taking place the way you described it.
The reason you think it's true, is because you have "faith" in it.

i can't wait to here im wrong, on the whole global warming. but it's funny how u people believe in all this science, and try to use it to prove why and how things are. but turn away from it when it does'nt work with the, green peace/peta/the sky is falling "logic".but it's funny ur science shows where this very thing "global warming" has happened over and over and over again. and were still in an ice age and coming out of it. so of course things will melt and temps will change

Well the reason that a hierarchy exists is because people can be greedy, not because one person is better than another. Those who gain power rarely question the morals or ethics or reasons behind their power, because if they had a better understanding of the circumstances or reasons, they may not be able to conscientiously use that power.

If a king appointed you into some high position, you now have an advantage over most of the people in the town. If you question the ethics behind it, such as saying "Why do I have power over all these people, when I was once in that very group" then it goes hand in hand that you'd have qualms about using your power to your fullest benefit.

Compare that with religion. I'm not suggesting that it's exactly the same and that religious people have power over those who don't, but it's an interesting idea nonetheless. Someone of faith may believe they have an inherent advantage over a non believer (something like, I don't know, going to heaven).

Let's say that someone believes that it's very likely, by the way they're living, that they're going to heaven, why would they question the rules and ethics that get them there? It wouldn't make sense because they might lose their faith, or they might not like the result they find. realizing an unfairness.

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Why would a person go to heaven and another go to hell, living identical lives, except one is a believer and the other isn't?

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might come up. I personally think that it's unfair, and there's no good reason for it. In my mind, any truly just God would not care about such a trivial piece of information, especially one that is so hidden from people in the first place. I'd need a reason to believe why someone who believes is apparently better than someone who doesn't. If that reason is hidden, or simply not told, it's probably for an unjust reason.

So who would want to go from a mindset of being blessed with eternal life, to just another Joe that's going to be in the ground 100 years from now like everyone else? Not many, I'd bet.

nice one pass that shit well really it was made up by man as well so there u go on that one