yeah its really odd for a while. it hasnt gone away but gotten used to it somewhat. DONT walk outside directly after sitting in the light. thought i fell into the sun...lolQuote:
Originally Posted by apoc04
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yeah its really odd for a while. it hasnt gone away but gotten used to it somewhat. DONT walk outside directly after sitting in the light. thought i fell into the sun...lolQuote:
Originally Posted by apoc04
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I always thought whiskey tango was military for W.T., which could mean a lot of stuff. Anyway, according to a lot of people "white" means "trash".Quote:
Originally Posted by SnSstealth
Congrats on the nice harvest. Thanks for showing us what LEDs are capable of, but what's a matter with you guys? Only 40 damn pages so far and 50,000 views. Can't you come up with an interesting thread?
I think you need 50 posts before you can put pictures on here. You can always put them in some free image hosting site, then supply a link to them. That would be very much appreciated by myself and several others.Quote:
Originally Posted by kutchc
welcome back opie:thumbsup: ain't heard from ya in a while...and your right, but our drill sgt called me whiskeytango...accent i guess did it...and i guess we should be able to come up with SOMETHING interesting to talk about...how bout my JH x BB being ready in about 2 weeks....awwww yeahQuote:
Originally Posted by Opie Yutts
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whiskeytango
Bastard!! I was hoping I'd be done in 2 more weeks but now I'm not so sure :(Quote:
Originally Posted by SnSstealth
i want to be the one..........
who gets to make....!!!!!!!!!
our 1000th post!!!! woo-hoo!!......pics today of the 3rd plant down...the rest look like they will come down together....
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whiskeytango
WHERE'S THOSE PHOTOS??!! :wtf:
here ya go WH!:thumbsup:
single stem...18"...one of the ones had Ph problem...got 10g...:(:mad:..bio-assay on it tonight....
maybe 13-14 days left on the good ones:jointsmile:
PARTY AT STEALTHS!!
18 inches....fucking sweet! Good job. :thumbsup:
Edit: How much were you expecting from one plant? I don't see any sign of ph issues at all there....?? That looks like a damn nice bud to me.
Ok....SMALL party at Stealths....:D
i wish, but thanks...18' was the whole plant...LOL...ouch
i wasnt sure...i left 2 plats single stem, and topped the rest...trying to see what the LEDs preferred..i definitely think SOG will be better...none of the plants got above 24"...which bugs me cause they were around 12 when i induced...i was expecting them to be a lil taller to, from the JH...also, its not known for its yeild..the three remaining plants are of the same cross, but seem to be a different pheno, since they are flowering at the same time, while this one started and finished much earlier...the one below is one of the 3 plants that seemed to halt for a week when we were having those issues, the leaves where jacked, but thankfully none of the damage got to the buds...so is 10g actually good for an 18in single stem?
I am POSITIVE it will be an amazing smoke, judging from the frost and the calyx size...perfect 70/30 cross IMO...
but let me stop going on about medicinal value till i smoke it...lol
Basically I am saying if i sacrifice some yeild for potency...I am happy as hell...Its all personal meds, minus some for a few friends of course...
let ya knoe the bio around 7 ish FL time:thumbsup::jointsmile:
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whiskeytango
Any chance we could see a big group photo?
And that IS a frosty looking bud.....you should send it to me.....I'll let you know how I like it..... :D Have bud.....will bio-assay.....
Oh yeah....sog or scrog.....I've followed Opie's and MVP's grows with it and they REALLY got some great results I thought. Without knowing much about your lights.....despite 40 pages..... I believe they don't penetrate far right? So yeah, stretch things horizontally to get the best effect.
LOL...i dont know much about my lights...lol, Db is the tech aspect of that, I just know growing...lol, and from what i can tell, my favorite nice big n bushy, wont work with these lights:(Quote:
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LOL....preparing teleportation device..:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Weedhound
insta-mail!!!
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whiskeytango
group shot of the remaining ladies? or my lil 10g...LOL its not the size that counts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
correction! wife of work early...(cant bio without her!) so I am going to get her now....that means a 4:20 bio!!!!! woot!!!!
be back then with description....
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huh...seems microsoft makes an herb drier... I set some wet buds behind it and the heated air flow dries it quick as hell! The Drybox 360 :D
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I just wanna jump back to this post.It is totally natural for plants to have yellow color leaves at this point.People can say what they want but i would never chop any of my plants that far into flowering it uses engery to repair itself that it should be using for budding.If you do have to chop somthing at least smash the spot you cut the stem so it can heal fasterQuote:
Originally Posted by SnSstealth
So after this grow do you think you would have done any better with 2 100w LEDS or not?Any other final thoughts on it? thanks
they were yellowing from def and Ph being too high...did ya get back that far?...lol We were having issues with that plant, and it was on its way out the door anyway... and we are using 3 100w LEDs...so i dont think 2 would have been better... I understand leaves turn yellow at the end...been doing this a few years:thumbsup: but thanks alot for the interest and looking out:jointsmile:
the last 4 plants that were not affected by the imbalances are doing amazing though...will have a group pic of them up tomorrow
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I still say you should of let her finish out,she was what day 43 flower with what 13 days left? but that just me.I been growing for 17 years and i never taken a plant early yet. lol
I'm not sure if i would buy these lights now knowing you used 3.Thier pretty buds but it still looks like a yield i have gotten from CFL's in the past.
You guys and you damn PH problems i have never had a problem with PH, i dont even check it.i guess im just lucky
we used 3....the room wasnt half full, I can have 1kw HID in there, but if there are only a few plants, at 2ft tall, they still wont harvest too much, better if SOG, but still not too much more...and the plants were all 2ft tall and a few 18"....i appreciate your opinion, but Im not selling these lights, so i dont really care if you buy them or not...this was just an experiment to see if LEDs could grow quality nug...It was also a jack herer cross...which is not a good SOG plant yield wise...si strain had something to do with it...
again I am not selling these lights by any means, they were just the best to use for the experiment...I fully appreciate your opinion, but look at all the facts before passing a judgement...
I am satisfied with the results, and thats all that really matters, right?
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i wasnt passing judgement!!!!!!! Jesus christ you people cant even take advice you been growing a few years kid and you think you know it all lol.What happend to this site in the last couple year damn.People been cracking me up on here lately.
ANd for the record I been reading this thread for awhile now the only thing i missed was you was using 3 lights.The Ph problem could or could not of been the problem people online i notice overthink shit.Keep it simple
hey syko,
we believe it was a ph problem as it was visually evident that once we got the correct levels, the next few days showed mass growth( not swelling). i know there were many ideas but that seemed to be the smoking gun.
when harvested 13 days early the main stem would crush flat with the SLIGHTEST pinch. it was dead and hollow and had not been doing any growing for a week.
and i think our "damn ph problem" is the counties fault not ours:thumbsup:
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Any other final thoughts on it? thanks
thats before we pass judgment, we need all the facts. simply stating that the results are not in and were waiting to make any claims until we see how the healthy group weighs out. thats all, this was not an attack :thumbsup:Quote:
I fully appreciate your opinion, but look at all the facts before passing a judgement...
thanks again
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update!!! These beautiful girls bounced back GREAT...expecting some MUCH better weight from these...thanks again stinks and WH for helping us get theat Ph shit tackled...
1st pic: bonsai-16in tall
2nd pic: 18in tall..topped once
3rd pic: 20 in tall..single stem
4th pic: 24in tall, topped once, with 12in stragler girl hanging out in the pot with her...lol
last pic is a group shot (WH!)
So for the future syko, I understand we have a somewhat low yield..but shit man, the tallest plant is 2ft...what did you expect us to yield?..we take criticism and advice quite well...but dont tell us we did something wrong with cutting an almost dead plant out, and telling me we have weak buds...I for one will take more resinous or more grams anyday...I grow for personal use, not sale. Our Ph was over 7...so I am pretty sure it was our problem. I am sorry you get so upset when someone doesn't like what you have to say...try calming down a bit...kinda wound up for a stoner...
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whiskeytango
That's half this board, it seems. You had one mod openly fighting with users the other day, you have another mod who's curiously in love with the political status quo for a MJ board mod and can't seem to pass up a good row over the same old political dog-and-pony shit, and almost constant bickering in threads like this. Some seem jealous of your ability to pay for three $600 lights, (even if you couldn't actually afford it normally) while others seem to just be interested in skimming the details so they can post some profound nugget of wisdom and act insulted when it isn't hungrily gobbled up. Sometimes I wonder if this is even a board for marijuana smokers.. or just a place to bitch-fight. I've seen boards dominated by 13 year olds that were far more civil (and had more intelligent and rational discussions) than this place.Quote:
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Sure.. I've also voiced some pretty toxic opinions lately, too.. but I'd have kept my mouth shut if I didn't have to spew X number of posts just to be able to give a thumbs-up to the occasional useful thread like this one. I'd have been perfectly content to stick to this thread and the perfect LED light thread otherwise. Yeah, I could've posted more in these two threads to run up my post count, but what's the point of cluttering up useful grow threads with 20 posts (that may just get deleted anyway) saying little more than "good job and good luck"? I'm not an experienced grower yet, (what little experience I have is in growing my own food outdoors) so I can't help you with your pH or disease problems, so what else is left?
Now I expect the chorus at this time will be along the lines of "if you don't like it, leave".. which I'll probably end up doing quietly at some point because I'm tired of all the cat-fighting. I've had over 15 years of that shit on the Internet and I've had enough of it. But the usual "don't like it, leave" chorus is just a lame-assed excuse by lazy irresponsible people to avoid doing anything positive with themselves. Why bother to improve ourselves when it's so much easier to just tell other people to fuck off? Anyway, whether I leave or not, I expect the bitchiness and the pissing contests will continue.
If you're cross-posting this grow somewhere else that's a bit less combattive, I'd like to request a repeat of the link to it if you'd be so kind. I think you mentioned it before, but it's getting over 40 pages now and a little hard to skim through in a hurry. We'll probably just let this account rot once your grow is finished. (assuming the truth doesn't hurt the argumentative mods here too much and the account is silenced) All complaining aside, we (both of us reading this) do still appreciate your efforts in this thread and the other LED thread.
I'd have PMed you this, but.. oh yeah, no PMs. Not at my post count, anyway. No idea if it changes, and it's unlikely I'll find out.
Saved a copy of this one, as I'm sure it will magically disappear soon. Sorry to clutter up your thread temporarily, but I've reached my limit with the shenanigans that go on around here.
I would say stealth those are the best pics so far by a long shot...Those girls look awsome.. Thanks for doing this.
Your plants look good. I don't think you're into growing for commercial reasons, in which case yield would be a prime concern. And I don't think you're interested in entering your buds in the Cannabis Cup, which would be fun but who needs it. The real pleasure is in the smoking. And that's what it's all about.
Hey guys, it seems that a lot of people are having trouble taking good close ups. I played with my camera a little (Canon Power Shot S500 Digital Elph, 2-3 yrs old) and i found that the best close up pics i take are with the close up function turned on, zoomed in as much as the mechanical zoom will go (3x in my case), and with the camera from 2-3 feet or more away from what i'm shooting. Try that and see how it works. You'll rarely ever take good pics with the camera only inches away.Quote:
Originally Posted by kutchc
Hope this helps!
hey blue,
I wish it was less combative in here too. I dont know why people get upset when you tell them you respect their opinion, but this is what and how weve done, and it gets thought of as an attack.
weve only posted a few pics on other sites. if you check back in a few weeks there will be an update post or possibly another thread showing all our info. dont leave. I hope the infighting has not soured you on LEDs. we need all the help we can get :thumbsup:
thanks,
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I'm not soured on LEDs. I'm glad you two have had decent results so far, and I'll contribute my own tests of LEDs when the time is right. (money issues, of course) Maybe not here, but somewhere. I realize you can't post links to most things here, so maybe I'll interrogate the person who recommended this site to me, to see if they have any other active sites.. and hopefully I'll run across your other posts elsewhere, eventually. I probably won't stop reading this place altogether, but I'm at least going to see what options this place has for hiding most of the extraneous crap.
I'm soured on all the bullshit fighting. I could understand if it was mainly just the dead wood hanging out in the political section (now there's a place that needs a shotgun enema and a few smiles rearranged by the butt of a rifle) as if anything they say about their diseased old dog-and-pony show will make a damn bit of difference.. but the general ill will here bleeds over into threads like this seemingly every other day.
Your thread, as useful as it has been, has also been a magnet for people who know everything except for two things: how to read all the posts in the thread, and how to deal with people who don't verbally fellate them for their coughed-up sound-bite "nuggets of wisdom". Well I admit I'm not experienced at growing weed, so I mostly stay quiet in these threads and try to encourage people like you who take a little risk in the pursuit of knowledge until such time as I can close the knowledge and experience gap a bit and help out.
Perhaps if they had more mods here that paid a little more quiet attention to the grow logs (especially active ones like this that are drawing in a lot of new users) instead of constantly posting useless flag-waving bullshit about Insane McCain and Saddam Hussein Obama and Hitlary.. or fighting with the new users..
Again, I'd have done this in PM, if I could've. And no, I'm not doing this for attention. If people here are smart, they'll take the criticism constructively and help improve the place no matter how much it wounds their precious egos. Of course, I doubt it.. but it's a nice thought, right? I expect they'll just keep on wallowing in their own shit and blaming everyone else who can still smell it for what it is.
Sorry for polluting your log further.. but I'm sure this will all vanish soon enough, once they're done playing around. Thanks again for sticking your neck out for the rest of us, when you really couldn't afford it. I know how that feels. My own LED experiments will likely be cobbled together and involving every volume discount I can get my hands on. (although I'll get someone else to do the soldering.. my hands shake too much for prolonged delicate work)
While I'm still here: How do you think you'd have done with a squarer room to put all that in? If you had 4x4 or 5x5 to work with, would you have popped the extra $200 (after volume discount) for a fourth light, for example? Is that overkill with those lights? Or do you want things a little off-square for lights that may have a rectangular light pattern? I mean really, the difference between 2'x7' and 4'x4' is only 2 sq. ft...
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Originally Posted by BlueBong
id say 4'x3' is the widest i could see using 1. if wed had 1 in the room id guess it would cover the middle 4'. the maker claims 10 sq.ft and we covered 15-ish w/ 3. dont know how id layout the 5'x5', 3 w/ one of them sideways possibly. Definitely, if they had the volume discount when i ordered im sure youd be reading the 4 procyon grow...lol:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueBong
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They didn't have the discount yet? Pisser.
You can add me to the list of people who think this thread should've earned the two of you at least one free light.
looking good guys. Man not to much longer can't wait anymore hehe.:thumbsup:
hey Snstealth looking good how many days are those pics ,looks the same as mine 45 days no red hairs yet and i have had ph problems as well
Looking fine bro
thanks cheap guy....age in the title of that post...lol, they are at day 52 bloom.
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nice looking flowers dude :D