Evolution or God????. . . .

I don't believe either of them. The universe is far too big and unknown for us to have even an idea of what the fuck is going on. Theories are great and all, but I've been doing philisophical studies for almost 25 years, and answers to questions about the universe are nonexistant at the moment.

It's great to share your ideas and theories, but that's all they are, so speak as if you're contributing to the massive number of theories that are all as likley as the next, and not as if you're correct. The universe is a place of infinite possibility currently, and we are in no shape or form to assume command of such knowledge and understanding.

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Originally Posted by chriscannabis

The universe is a place of infinite possibility currently, and we are in no shape or form to assume command of such knowledge and understanding.

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But that is what makes physics and other sciences so great! We can predict future events because the phyical models are very precise to the "real world" events. We can predict planet locations hundreds of years into the future, we use it to make all of our moderen technology. I admit, science does nothing to solve the "why", but kills with the "how".

Yep, "why" is where things get complicated. Maybe we're jus tscratching the surface and our current scientific discoveries are part of a much bigger and whole picture.

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Originally Posted by Pyramidsonmars

I can't believe some people believe that all matter and energy just somehow manages to exist in a very orderly fashion WITHOUT something beyond this phyiscal materialistic reality fashioning and guiding it (aka God)

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you see, i dont believe in god, i believe in something, i just dont know what it is. something HAD to of created planets, the sun, the concept of life....

but i believe the 'r'evolution has started...

Great Thread

I appreciate the honest thoughts expressed here.

Something to really think about is the fact that the bottom fossil record is believed to be found. All major animals have two eyes two ears.

Horses were horses though smaller etc...
two ears give us the ability to detect where sound came from.(very critical especially in early times).

Two eyes gives us the ability to detect distances. also very critical.
The fact that obvious design was clearly set from the earliest fossil records,
should make us all truely concider thoughtfully about a designer.

Sure there are going to be adaptations, certain colored moths being removed due to the fact that their color did not acomodate camoflage, with their environment.

Ok.. Ok so the playground was put next to the sewage plant.... laughing.

Look, I'm a Christian, thats probably obvious, but "The Book" that I respect says that creation displays the glory of God ~ where no man has an excuse.

Have you asked him to reveal himself to you?.... honestly?

Thanks for your time,.... Brad

The thing is, nothing is impossible. I know when the your kindergarden teachers told you that, you said" Well if you jump off a cliff with no hang glider or jet pack, you're fucked right?" Wrong. The universe is full of infinite possibilities that are only limited by your imagination.

We can do either of two things. Continue on our current path, where humanity is divided, the rise and fall of nations. We can unite under one banner for the good of humanity as a whole. After that we have two more sub-choices if you will. You can either assume, or you can go out and learn and find out for yourself what the truth really is, or at least try. No one is anymore right than anyone else, and speaking as though you are the above is ignorant.

This post is quite hypocritical, because i'm talking in the same way, so let's just say we'll put a maybe before all my factual sentences. We can either assume and wait for the truth if it ever comes, or we can go to it, it's all up to you.

Instead of learning recycled and used knowledge and using that as an example, go out and learn for yourself. People think differently than others, so learning it for yourself in your own way reveals more questions than just learning straight facts. You won't find any answers this way, but it'll make you more open about this kind of thing.

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Originally Posted by chriscannabis

You can either assume, or you can go out and learn and find out for yourself what the truth really is, or at least try. No one is anymore right than anyone else, and speaking as though you are the above is ignorant.

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This I can strongly agree with. Nobody has the magical, universal, all-perfect eternal truth. All you can do is spend your life learning as much of the truth as you can, but understanding it all is not yet possible by anybody.

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Originally Posted by mrdevious

This I can strongly agree with. Nobody has the magical, universal, all-perfect eternal truth. All you can do is spend your life learning as much of the truth as you can, but understanding it all is not yet possible by anybody.

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If you don't know the truth, how can one find the truth?

That is why God said he will write it in our hearts and in our minds!
So the truth comes from with in!...Seek God, and honor God by doing his will, which is the righteous thing to do!
"Tend and Keep the garden" is a logical truth!
God gave us everything...so don't let them take away or sell you your rights to everything God gave!

Marijuana is a important part of the garden principle, it is up to those who are willing, to restore Marijuana to its rightful place, and let it be what it is, for a time of restoration of the planets health care!

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Originally Posted by Sir Les

If you don't know the truth, how can one find the truth?

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If we don't know the cure for cancer, how can we find it? I don't know, but I imagine we will eventually.

I got an advise to read this book from a friend: God's Debris

http://images.ucomics.com/images/pdf...godsdebris.pdf

It's a conversation between the All Knowing and a normal someone. Anyone read it? I will soon.