Emmies Grow Log - White Widow

This update is mainly just to talk about what I am seeing happen under the canopy... nothing has changed much up top in the last 4 days or so, just more of the what was already going on. The buds are filling out and getting larger and trichomes are starting to coat everything near the buds, all over the plant. It does make for some pretty pictures though. The next watering starts a new mix of nutrients with a very heavy phosphorous load to promote oil production. This new mix will be what she gets up until the last week of the grow.

The most interesting thing to watch is how Hillary is self managing under the canopy. The group of advocates that promote trimming to reduce chances of mold and to make her concentrate on the top growth, these people would be proud of Hillary. She has all by herself picked the very growth that it is recommended to take, the older and less efficient lower fan leaves. She has cut off one at a time per branch and then picked the next least efficient one to absorb when that leaf was done. You will see in the under the canopy shot that it looks pretty uncluttered there. The only active growth left is that which supports the bud structures growing under there now with the added side lights.

So, I keep adjusting the lights upward a bit every few days trying to tease the major buds to increase in size. I did adjust the daytime and night time temperatures down 1 degree yesterday too, in order to simulate the beginning of a change in seasons. Water use is remaining steady at the moment and I see no signs of stress. Here are some pictures!

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Here is a happy little bud under the canopy
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Have a great day!
Emmie

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Originally Posted by emilya

lol... patience he says. Not my strongest quality for sure. After I know I am not killing my babies I will find more of it I am sure... but for now I worry.

Lets say I get back from my drive today with new 1 gal and 2 gal pottery containers and some fox farms soil and I wanted to transplant these complaining little dears out of the miracle grow. They are in these stupid 8" clay pots now. What would be the best way to extract them? Just do the upside down shake and see what falls away from a root structure that surely isn't nearly as large as this container? Use some kind of large spoon and try to scoop them out from the edges? How much of this miracle grow should I try to bring with them, as little as possible? At 3 weeks and still no more than slightly stressed plantlings, is it too early to put them through the stress of a move, or is the risk worth it to get them in a better soil?

Impatient Emmie

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Not to go there,Em.... But I think that is a vertue of a man.. I would'nt expect you to have any... I still love ya!

Been peepin' ya thread out... You love this.. Don't cha?

A thin and flat cake frosting spreader works ok, but use care...the finer roots tend to adhere themselves to the pot if the pores are large enough. Flip it over and give a good, sharp whack on the bottom to dislodge whatever roots are still stuck in the bottom. But try and keep the rootball as intact as possible, and have your new pot ready for the plant.

Looking pretty good. :thumbsup:

Go Hilary :dance:
She looks a happy camper Emmie

Lookin good Emmie.

You got a good cut, my girl is giving me fits with over feeding :(

I am going to post this update tonight even though I cannot â??seeâ?� a lot of progress in the last few days. Here at the 3 to 5 week period seems to be a bit of a lull in the fast paced changes we have been able to chronicle every few days throughout most of this grow. To be fair to the purpose of this grow log (to help others learn along with me) I need to comment on this â??lackâ?� of visible changes. I would never want a lull like this to worry someone else as it might have worried me, before I learned to be more patient. ;)


There are indeed subtle changes to the flowers and to the entire plant. The buds are growing. In 3 days I can see growth at the top especially, the flowers are filling out and I can now see the process that will be making them taller. Note how all the leaves in the bud structure are looking up to the light and how the bud is building on itself from the top. Check out these two pictures to see what I mean. This by the way is the top flower from one of the 4th internodes.



Bud 25 days ..................................... Bud 32 days

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In today's shot you can see the top of the canopy. This is a happy plant. The entire top of the canopy is a sea of eagerly reaching leaves, soaking in all the light they can capture. These upwardly thrusting bud structures would logically contain the most efficient leaves on the entire plant, processing the light at least distance, and then being right on the flower they are supplying with nutrients. In addition to this optimization at the top, some very interesting things keep happening below the canopy.




Discarded Leaves pile
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I see a lot of questions on the forum from first time growers about the lower fan leaves yellowing during flowering. People seem to freak out as soon as they see this process start to happen, and I want to stress how natural and necessary this process seems to be. That pile of leaves is what has fallen from her in the 32 days of flowering. Wellâ?¦ almost fallen off. I believe strongly in causing no stress if I can avoid it, believing that the plant knows much better than I as to what to do; so I do not clip the bad leaves. I wait for them to be absorbed and become brittleâ?¦ and most of the time at this point they will separate cleanly at the base of the stem with just a bit of movement. Some will argue that it is best to clip them as soon as they start to yellow and be done with it, but I believe that the plant is efficient and will absorb what she wants from this leaf before releasing it. I donâ??t know which method is correctâ?¦ but I bet that each method turns out with approximately the same results. The maximum that I do is to move a dying leaf into the open if possible so that it can do its thing without blocking the light to other flowers. By doing this I feel that I am also fighting possible mold problems by moving the leaf to where it can dry out in the fan breeze.




under canopy left ............................ under canopy right
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Hillary obviously has a master plan. She started out at the very bottom and cleared out the old fan leaves. It looked so obviously to be intentional when exactly one leaf in each of the 4 lowest branches yellowed and died off. When these 4 were finished, she did it againâ?¦ 4 leaves, from the next lowest growth. Now you can see by the pictures that she has cleaned out the under the canopy pretty well and has â??naturallyâ?� made under the canopy an efficient place for the remaining flower structures to get all the available light that they can. She is now working on cleaning up the underside of the screen itself. She has picked out fan leaves that are inefficient, i.e. those that are covered up by structures at the top or those that are blocking the light to other flowers. Her picks as to which leaves to remove is logical and seems to have a definite purposeâ?¦ to move efficiency up the stem to the very top of the canopy.


If I saw any other signs of leaf problems I would worry about all this, but I donâ??t. Every other leaf on the plant looks healthy and the closer they are to a flower, the thicker and deeper green they become. It is a wonderful thing watching natures plan perfected in a weed and its amazingly efficient processes. Sort of humbles you if you think about it. :smokin:


Emmie

Looking good kiddo. Yes vertical growth will slow and stop. Bulk should begin to occur. The buds should start putting on bulk now from what I see. What good are those bottom leaves, they don't get enough light to make any real difference so they become a burden and the plant sloughs them, just like our skin does with old cells.

Also, keep an eye on the very bottom buds, if you don't trim them off, for nanners. The light reduction seems to cause a nanner now and then in my widow down very low. Food for thought.

I'm glad you made this post Emmie - making note of the vertical growth lull is a worthwhile addition to your log. I would have been having worries also at this same stage if I'd not already read about it earlier.
Now we can start seeing all Hilary's buds start to thicken and fill out :thumbsup:

WOW!

Wonderful looking girl! I have been a way a few weeks at another site. I also have no patience and when I was unable to post or use this forum for several days I lost what little I do possess and went and joined RIU.com. But I missed this forum, it seems to have much better information and certainly friendlier folks!

Anyway, I am glad I returned before you finished her, she is very impressive indeed!:greenthumb:
A friend of mine just harvested a WW after 52 flowering days under 400w HID, I don't think he got near what you already have.

Happy to be back!

P.S. Not to try to jack your post emmie (I don't think I could drag your loyal readers away even if I did want to), but I wanted to thank you amongst others for inspiring me to commit to this hobby. I have finally posted my first grow log if you would care to check it out. Peace!

I finally found your grow thread, Emmie...congrats on getting ready for your first harvest! :)