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That will not be as effective. See you would smoke the oil so it would be burned. since in GD your not smoking it, you MUST heat it to decarboxylize it. With out that step it would be like eating weed NO HIGH.
Brownies work because you bake them. You MUST have decarboxylization for the thc to work
Smokez: Your problem is using too low of proofage alcohol. You need to use HIGH PROOF stuff. And ONLY drinking alcohol. Ispropyl or Isobutyl WILL MAKE YOU BLIND. Bad stuff.
Maxsuperdanks: If you've never made Absinthe by yourself before, I wouldn't start out with it. The reason it's banned in the states isn't because people were dying when they were drinking La Fee's Absinthe, but were dying when they drank Billy Bob's Hoedown Green Fairy version. It's easy to muck up.
Non: If you were using 90 proof stuff all the times you were doing it, that could be your problem. You also said most of the time you were using shake, which was probably your second problem. You need to increase the amount of alcohol you use, 90 proof is 45% booze, and everyone else is using 151 or 190, which are 75.5% and 95% respectively.
I am also not sure if using lower strength hooch is even advisable, because the alcohol might have some ionic bonds to the compounds that give the lower strength stuff it's flavor. And if you evaporate the booze when you heat it, then you break the bonds, and it never sucks out the THC from the stuff. I would only do this with OVER 75% drinking alcohol. If you can't find 151 or equivalent in your area, smuggle that crap in!
Chico loco: If you do a butane extraction hunt down one of the cans that has the 99% additive free butane on it. Some smoke shops and a few tool stores carry it (butane torches work best with the pure stuff) so it shouldn't be too hard to find. I wonder if you did a decarboxylation with some bud you were gonna make oil with if it'd work better....
People were dying?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScaryOne
I extracted 3.5 grams of wormwood into 200 ml's of 151, boiled down to 100 ml's of liquid.
Shit makes you feel nuts.
Is the Thujone that toxic that it can kill people? I've never heard of people dying just because of absinthe, they usually just go too far.
"Bake the pot at 325 degrees Fahrenheit for 5 minutes. I chop mine in a mini-prep (or chop by hand) until it is quite fine. Then I spread it out on a piece of aluminum foil which is placed directly on the oven rack. If you place the foil on a baking pan you will need to account for the additional mass of the pan which will increase your baking time. Pre-baking should stink up the house."
Wouldn't baking the pot just vaporize it? Resin Evaporates at around 300 - 400 *F
You know, I can't find where I found it, but I distinctly remember that when people were making their own absinthe they were adding too much wormwood and thujone, and overdosing on the stuff, which is why it got banned.
Kind of like how every time I mention everclear to my parents they picture moonshine and warn me that it can contain lead because of people using lead solder for pipes in home distilleries. It was a similar public consensus back in the early 1900's about Absinthe.
Looks like some of the stuff just got made legal in the US. Woot. I really want to try some La Fee.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/12/ar...in&oref=slogin
Green Dragon stays good for a while, as long as it's in an airtight container out of light.
I just made a 6 gram batch, using the same amount of alchohol.
Drank it all in a day along with a bottle of hpnotiq, half a bottle of 151, half my bottle of home made absynth. And my bottle of lambic.
Gah, my tollerance is too high :(
alright, so far I'm 0-2 with the GD. I am wondering if anyone could shed some insight on what I may be doing wrong, if anything at all...
I'm using decent bud (50 an 8th), grind it down, put on tin foil.
i'm using everclear, and i have the right thermometers.
The first try i cooked at 200 for 20 minutes. I don't think that pre-bake did it. The weed was still green and i saw no vapors leave when i opened the oven. so i figured that was why my 5 ml dose was doing nothing to me.
Second try i cooked at 325 for 5 minutes, I have an oven thermometer and my oven is around 335 - 340 when its set at 325 so i lowered it a bit and thru the 5 minutes temp varied from 335-315 but mostly stayed under 325, so i dont think that was the issue. The weed was brownish green and a wisp of vapor came up as i pulled the tin foil out of the oven.
This second try felt right with the pre-bake and all but once again a failed batch that just made me slightly tired.
*** Possible things gone wrong
1. We were blazing a lot up until about an hour after taking the drinks. So is it possible that the smoke high just overlapped the gd high and i didn't notice it. i'm hoping that isn't the case because i had it stuck in my head that this gd shit would be stronger and longer.
2. maybe i'm not taking enough. this doesn't seem possible tho... my doses went like this. 2 ml -> nothing 5 hrs later 5 ml -> nothing next day finish whats left... roughly 20 ml -> slightly high for ~ 4 hrs ( if one dose of GD gets u high 20 ml of the shit i made gets u low )
3. coffee filter. I'm hoping this is where i'm going wrong. both times i extracted, i used a coffee filter. it was kinda messy and seemed to be wasteful. is it possible that it filtered out the good stuff??? the filters would always be left with a large green stain on em. maybe i should try with a nylon or regular kitchen strainer... has anyone had success with a coffee filter???
4. didn't let the drink mature. i don't know if this is even necessary, but both times i made my gd out of an 8th, i've finished the product in a day or two. does it get more potent as it sits. this one seems really far fetched tho.
I just want to make a batch that works and know for sure that this isn't bull. Also, for the second batch i made, i ended up evapprating all the liquor in an attempt to save the gd like master wu does... i was really nervous about re-baking tho ( not 100% positive if all the everclear vaped dont want to go BOOM) so i just put the hash oil or w/e was left over onto a few joints and smoked it. That got me higher than usual but certainly not what I've been expecting from a few of these dragon tales i've been hearing.
So please help a fellow stoner and let me know where u think i may have gone wrong or if u need other info to determine where i went wrong. :hippy:
oh yea... i used 1.5 ml everclear the first time, was left with .5 oz "GD"
i used 3 oz everclear the second time and had ~ 1.8 oz "GD"
the first trial i actually only used like 1.5 grams bud, so i used enough alcohol to burn off an oz and be left with roughly half of the original recipe but i am pretty sure the pre-bake in the first trial wasn't sufficient. anyways, any help from anyone would be appreciated, especially dragonrider or fred as u two seem to have had consistent success with the recipe, or master wu himself if u still check out the thread
Really good guide, Written In a Simple Format :thumbsup:
I will definatly try this out one day, When my Parents go on Holiday Hopefully.
Peace :rastasmoke: