My Experience with Rick Simpson Oil
I enjoyed reading this thread very informative thank you. Have a few questions. I read this thread once some months back and probably should have read the current thread before undertaking my first oil run because it would have refreshed my memory on how to do it. Someone gave me a bunch of buds that no one wanted because it was like hay but had little crystals on the buds. Perhaps there was also a seeded out female one male plant and all mostly sativa buds or trimmings or whatever. I didn't want it laying around or throw it away and thought to try the RSO. All I could find was 91% ISO at drug store. It was all really dry and froze it with a couple gallons of the 91%ISO and whatever pans that were to mix it in. Followed the procedure with exception of coffee filter but used two splatter guards as a filter. At end of the procedure rice cooker needed to be moved around rotated until noticed it was slightly being burned on bottom of rice cooker. I then threw it into a baby croc pot that slightly simmered out the rest of the tiny bubbles then waited 10 more minutes of swirly motion before syringe.
It still has this hay smell but pulled out about 22 grams of oil and plan to give it away.
I would not want to give this to someone if it is not done right or will get them sick. The oil is black when thick but golden brown when smeared. It does have a hay type smell and could be contaminated with chlorophyll or something due to no coffee filter. There is no alcohol smell.
Is there a way to rewash this oil and filter it? The grain alcohol will work? Is it possible to reuse/recycle the oil stuck to bottom of rice cooker and baby crock pot?
Also Woozy how did it go with Sannies strains.. outdoor in Aloha?
My Experience with Rick Simpson Oil
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Originally Posted by justwonder
I enjoyed reading this thread very informative thank you. Have a few questions. I read this thread once some months back and probably should have read the current thread before undertaking my first oil run because it would have refreshed my memory on how to do it. Someone gave me a bunch of buds that no one wanted because it was like hay but had little crystals on the buds. Perhaps there was also a seeded out female one male plant and all mostly sativa buds or trimmings or whatever. I didn't want it laying around or throw it away and thought to try the RSO. All I could find was 91% ISO at drug store. It was all really dry and froze it with a couple gallons of the 91%ISO and whatever pans that were to mix it in. Followed the procedure with exception of coffee filter but used two splatter guards as a filter. At end of the procedure rice cooker needed to be moved around rotated until noticed it was slightly being burned on bottom of rice cooker. I then threw it into a baby croc pot that slightly simmered out the rest of the tiny bubbles then waited 10 more minutes of swirly motion before syringe.
It still has this hay smell but pulled out about 22 grams of oil and plan to give it away.
I would not want to give this to someone if it is not done right or will get them sick. The oil is black when thick but golden brown when smeared. It does have a hay type smell and could be contaminated with chlorophyll or something due to no coffee filter. There is no alcohol smell.
Is there a way to rewash this oil and filter it? The grain alcohol will work? Is it possible to reuse/recycle the oil stuck to bottom of rice cooker and baby crock pot?
Also Woozy how did it go with Sannies strains.. outdoor in Aloha?
Well, I don't recommend the 91% iso. You can order the 99% iso online. I also only recommend using a metal cup with a coffee cup warmer as it is not as hot as the mini crock pot. Also, next time be more careful not to burn the oil in the rice cooker. It is very easy to damage the product that way.
Since it was made with iso you can clean it up and make it better. That has a lot to do with polar and non polar solvents. Take your finished product that was made with the iso. Put it into a metal or glass cup. Dilute it with a good amount of 190 proof Everclear grain alcohol or even a higher proof grain alcohol. After it is well diluted, put it into a jar and then into the freezer for at least 72 hours. Then take the mixture and run it through a paper coffee filter (I filtered it into a shot glass then poured it into my purge cup) and get it back into the metal cup or pan for the coffee mug warmer. Purge it to the desired thickness, stirring occasionally. Your oil should be cleaner after that.
Please let us know how it turns out.
Here are some pictures of the process.
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I did a comparison on this winterizing. I just took a quick picture to point out the difference. If I would have had some light behind the syringes it would look prettier and more transparent. The darker oil on the top, I winterized iso oil with iso. The lower syringe I winterized the same iso oil with 190 everclear. The polar non polar thing is very important. As you can see, the winterizing of the iso oil with 190 everclear came out more clear. Iso and grain alcohol go hand in hand when it comes to winterizing. It is rather simple to do too. A good thing about the grain alcohol when purging is that it doesn't stink the house up nor does it seem as dangerous. When you are finished purging the everclear, you can be confident that there is no iso left in it at all.
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I did this experiment with very clean oil. It is wasteful to do this with clean oil. Far more effective with a dirtier higher chlorophyll oil. Excluding winterizing, forget about winterizing for a minute. If you are already making a good clean oil with iso, you may want to dilute it with 190 everclear and purge that. Then you know for sure there is no iso left in it whatsoever and you know it is completely safe in regards to solvents.
Gray Wolf knows more about winterizing than I. There is information posted at SkunkPharms web blog site. I used that to help get me started.
My Experience with Rick Simpson Oil
Hi GrowGoddess, hope you had a nice holiday season!
After reading and re-reading this thread, I'm gonna take the jump and make some RSO. Some of it I want to use in my e-cig. But I was wondering about taking a maintenance dose daily ad infinitum.
I had breast cancer 2-1/2 years ago and went through the whole surgery, chemo and radiation thing. Had to do chemo for 1 year and 3 mos. It was hell and I never want to do it again. I'm not sure I have recovered from it yet or ever will. I had stage 3 cancer and it got into my lymph nodes, so there is always the worry it will come back to haunt me in some other organ/system. Do you think a maintenance dose daily would help in preventing this? I know it couldn't hurt, but is a maintenance dose (1 rice grain sized or more at night) enough to make a difference? I am also curious what other help it may provide me with my other medical problems. Just smoking has helped a lot with my back pain, depression, neuralgia, anxiety and IBS. I've been able to stop taking 2 narcotic pain relievers, my sleep aid and my anxiety medication (all of which were making me an addicted zombie) and my head is so much clearer. Just wanted to know a little more about maintenance dosing since I haven't seen it discussed much. Thanks always for your wisdom and help! :)
My Experience with Rick Simpson Oil
oops... just another question I forgot to ask. Do you ever use flavor oils (Loran) to flavor your e-juice? I wanted to help disguise the scent in public with a little mint and wondered if it helps and how much to use. Probably no more than a drop or even less....
My Experience with Rick Simpson Oil
Kwilal, is it possible your last few batches of RSO was made from sativa, or sativa was in the breeding of the hybrid? (I find sativas make me anxious). Just a thought...... :)
-- Hey Giggletwig! Where the heck you been!? Go to my Camper Closet grow thread. ;)
My Experience with Rick Simpson Oil
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Originally Posted by giggletwig
Hi GrowGoddess, hope you had a nice holiday season!
After reading and re-reading this thread, I'm gonna take the jump and make some RSO. Some of it I want to use in my e-cig. But I was wondering about taking a maintenance dose daily ad infinitum.
I had breast cancer 2-1/2 years ago and went through the whole surgery, chemo and radiation thing. Had to do chemo for 1 year and 3 mos. It was hell and I never want to do it again. I'm not sure I have recovered from it yet or ever will. I had stage 3 cancer and it got into my lymph nodes, so there is always the worry it will come back to haunt me in some other organ/system. Do you think a maintenance dose daily would help in preventing this? I know it couldn't hurt, but is a maintenance dose (1 rice grain sized or more at night) enough to make a difference? I am also curious what other help it may provide me with my other medical problems. Just smoking has helped a lot with my back pain, depression, neuralgia, anxiety and IBS. I've been able to stop taking 2 narcotic pain relievers, my sleep aid and my anxiety medication (all of which were making me an addicted zombie) and my head is so much clearer. Just wanted to know a little more about maintenance dosing since I haven't seen it discussed much. Thanks always for your wisdom and help! :)
I think it would be very wise to take maintenance doses. I recommend two doses per day. Anywhere from a rice grain size up to a pea, depending on the potency/quality of the oil. I strongly recommend ingesting the oil for the maintenance dose. You can also vape it in your e-cigg, but don't count that as your maintenance dose.
In half of the cases, I have heard the oil has helped with many other issues. I cannot say that it has helped with all. It seems to be more effective with people that are accustomed to the buzz effects of marijuana in general. This is not always the case, but often.
I do not add flavors to my oil, but you can. Yes, it will only require a small amount. Just be sure to thin the oil for the e-cigg with PG USP. PG USP is also known for aiding in blending chemicals together so I would suspect that it may help with blending the flavor or your choice with the oil depending on if the flavor is oil or water soluble. In many cases PG USP with work with both.
I still have no interest in smoking any buds. I swear, I am being honest. You can look at my best bud pictures and all I see is crap or nice buds turned into oil. I only vape and eat the oil. When I vape concentrates, I perfer the PG USP to be added to it vs. vaping the pure concentrate.
So, good luck to you on your vaporizing adventure! :)
God bless
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My Experience with Rick Simpson Oil
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Originally Posted by giggletwig
Hi GrowGoddess, hope you had a nice holiday season!
After reading and re-reading this thread, I'm gonna take the jump and make some RSO. Some of it I want to use in my e-cig. But I was wondering about taking a maintenance dose daily ad infinitum.
I had breast cancer 2-1/2 years ago and went through the whole surgery, chemo and radiation thing. Had to do chemo for 1 year and 3 mos. It was hell and I never want to do it again. I'm not sure I have recovered from it yet or ever will. I had stage 3 cancer and it got into my lymph nodes, so there is always the worry it will come back to haunt me in some other organ/system. Do you think a maintenance dose daily would help in preventing this? I know it couldn't hurt, but is a maintenance dose (1 rice grain sized or more at night) enough to make a difference? I am also curious what other help it may provide me with my other medical problems. Just smoking has helped a lot with my back pain, depression, neuralgia, anxiety and IBS. I've been able to stop taking 2 narcotic pain relievers, my sleep aid and my anxiety medication (all of which were making me an addicted zombie) and my head is so much clearer. Just wanted to know a little more about maintenance dosing since I haven't seen it discussed much. Thanks always for your wisdom and help! :)
Taking a maintenance dose might work; One year of chemo though...must have been an extremely aggressive cancer, Stage 3 or you are somewhat aging? Regardless, with all the poison of chemo etc...I'd lean more toward trying to 're-set' your body to something closer to normal by taking a curative dose to start with~~if you can manage to get enough buds and make that much oil? *edit*; my thinking is chemo isn't a 'sure' cure and hopefully the oil will target the cells that are 'infected' with the 'potential' threat.
Certainly a maintenance dose is better than nothing.
Dosing: 1cc = 1gram?? is that the formula everyone is using?
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@kwilal; thank you for the descriptive post of your regime... I'll engage some help with my bills and responsibilities while on the extreme dose. And making the full amount of oil prior to starting its use.
@Weezard: Which size gelatin capsules are those in the post pictures last July?
If you store your rso in syringes and have no "cap" for it, what are you using instead? :rasta:
I easily found a coffee warmer at the local thrift store for $2.00 and see the craft stores have the same thing for candle warmers. Anyone using a candle warmer?:jointsmile: pr
My Experience with Rick Simpson Oil
"@Weezard: Which size gelatin capsules are those in the post pictures last July?
If you store your rso in syringes and have no "cap" for it, what are you using instead?"
Those were #2 caps.
I needed a little bigger so am now using #1
Next biggest size is single aught #0.
The bigger ones are a good idea, because you don't have to fill them all the way.
That makes capping much easier and much less messy.
If your oils is made right, the small syringes don't need a cap at room temperature.
I stuff a round toothpick in it though, just in case of plunger pressure and temperature changes.
Aloha,
Weeze
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Originally Posted by Weezard
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Those were #2 caps.
I needed a little bigger so am now using #1
Next biggest size is single aught #0.
The bigger ones are a good idea, because you don't have to fill them all the way.
That makes capping much easier and much less messy.
If your oils is made right, the small syringes don't need a cap at room temperature.
I stuff a round toothpick in it though, just in case of plunger pressure and temperature changes.
Aloha,
Weeze
:thumbsup:Thank YOU for sharing so much about this process Weezard and all the others that have contributed! Getting a real PhD on RSO in this thread...well and, patience! Are there any easy threads on how to 'recover' the 190pf juice?
I bought the "0" and "3"...that is all they had in Loma Linda (largest health food store and Vegetarian population here). They had the Capsule machine for "0" only...so I have it too! And if that doesn't work, I'll get a bullet case and do it like GrownInGa does. I so appreciate the advice!
Is any particular size of syringe a bit 'easier' to push the plunger in? Sort of worried I may not be able to push oil out, it is thicker than Penicillin and that stuff (the VD bomb) can be a big challenge to push out (with a big needle-though)..with healthy hands.
Trying to think :upsidedowof all the 'variables' so I have the oil and dose's set up for the entire trip! IDK how long it'll take to get that much oil in me and still be able to walk! Certainly going to do it, soon!
Again; :joint1:Thank YOU GrowGoddess, Weezard and all those contributing...each post has extreme value and I've read this thread many times, lately!:4:
Hope everyone is well and having a good start to the New Year! Glad the:wtf: '13' year is over! :rasta: pr
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GrowGoddess and Painretreat:
Thanks for the advice! I am surprised that you recommend 2 doses (or 3 doses to start) as maintenance. I thought maint. was one dose? (which I thought would be easy to do at night and help my insomnia)
My chemo ended in Dec. 2011 and I've been clear ever since. It was considered stage 3 since it had gone into the lymph nodes. (Aging? I'm 58... what's that got to do with?) Cancer was triple positive. I opted not to take meds to reduce my female hormones - it just didn't feel right for me having bone troubles, and my gut told me not to. But you know, one still worries. I feel like I've been living waiting for the other shoe to drop, so to speak. I have a good tolerance and function well high (even hubby can't tell I'm high, just that I'm in a better mood). But how impaired would I be taking a dose during the day? I'm not working, but don't see spending all day stoned...
(Making oil = a good excuse to grow more! I Love to grow!)
