Please help! Droopy Plants

LOL.....Tom, see the "latewood, xcrispi, weedhound" thread in this section. There you will see the 11 pounds from one 1000 watt light post. Anyways, the only down side I see to growing this ScroG setup in the fall is I am going to need to start from seed....Meaning germ all 10, veg, clone, grow, sex, get mother, clone, train .......blah blah blah..you know the drill. The reward will be seeing a nice fat bud in every available hole in the screen.

You are a busy man, Tom. Sounds like you are exploring some great areas though. Best of luck with all your endeavours.


ASD.....About rockwool...I LOVE IT. I read horror stories here often about the misadventures folks have with it, but not I. If I didnt grow in RW and Hydroton, I'd grow in Coco. Its to each their own and what they are comfy with. As I have said previously, I keep moms in Coco.

ASD...and you asked about soaking. Yes, I soak in Rockwool Soak from bghydro. If you do not have that you can soak in 5.5 pH'd water for 24 hours. Before you use, squeeze most of water out of em, you want em moist, not dripping wet. And KEEP the PHUCKING light from beating on the top of the RW. Buy them handy plastic cover thing mah jigs, make your own, do whatever you gotta do to keep light from getting to RW. I use circles of panda plastic, cut a + in the center of each circle. I can drop the net pot right thru the +. Plastic goes back in place and the only thing sticking thru is plant. Works slicker than snot on a glass door handle. White side up of course.

80 here Tuesday, 25 today, fuckin weather by Cybil. Shit dont know wether to bloom or die.......

b0nger

Sounds like michigan weather. What part of the world do live in bonger? I thought I read SC or NC somewhere but I cant remember. What about you weedhound and ASD? Weedhound asked me where I lived - Sun Diego. I was wondering about those rockwool covers though - do the covers block the plant from getting fresh oxygen? I know that in ebb and flow that the oxygen is supposed to be pushed out of the top of the cube when the water level rises and then oxygen is pulled into the cube when the water level drops. Do you think that rockwool covers would negatively affect this? Its prob. different if you are bubbling in the oxygen from the bottom though. But where does the stale air go if it it covered by plastic?

All you guys drooling over that 11lb comment need to go back and reread Scarlet's thread. There she clarifies (for the safety of Bonger's heart) that what she got was 11b of WET untrimmed marijuana, stems included.....so all you boys just calm right down!!

I also agree that Tom went off thread so we need to go over there and smoke all that lovely stuff he is growing. I'm in Nor Cal myself...about 2 hrs east of Lake Tahoe so i'll probably get there first; too bad for the rest of you.

ASD each plant has it's own limit for leaf blades if I remember correctly. And I find it amazing that you jumped the gun on the 12/12 as you have been so slow and cautious as a rule. :D It should not affect the potency of your grow but will affect the final yield. Potency is determined by the genetics of the plant.

The Walmart seed.....sounds like a setup to me. The cops were probably watching you the whole time and will be there soon to get the goods. Speaking of.....you don't get all your seeds at WalMart do you? Can't guarantee the potency of the discount store sidewalk seeds. :stoned:

Mid Atlantic most of the time, Tom. My covers are not like a Tupperware seal or anything.....lol They are just laying on top of the netpot/hydroton. About "stale air", I have none. I can make my growroom a wind tunnel if I want. I got hells of fresh air commin in, and the old is scrubbed and exhausted.

Those super fancy special plastic doo hickes they sell I have no idea about. I know bghydro carries them, but since I had some panda plastic handy, I used an empty netpot for size, cut out circles, cut + in center, and voila.

I am not cheap or nothing like that, but if I can fab something to achieve exact same result as something that would run 20 bucks, hell, I make it. Fron picture on a website I could not tell how big hole was in center either. So, I figured as my stalk increased in girth (eazy ladies), it would just push the plastic back, and it does, perfectly.

I've seen pics of all kinds of different shit used. This was just easiest and what I had materials to do at the time.


b0nger

I'm debating on what sorta system to make now that the room is completed (well close enough)

I'm planning another aero system...a multibucket...maybe a horizontal pvc tube kind or simply a rubbermaid tub setup...although the rubbermaid would probably hold 2 plants max and even then they'd be pretty close together

I'm leaning toward something kinda like a waterfarm with a seperate res and like nine 5 gallon paint buckets 3 rows of 3...I figured I could raise the buckets a few inches off the ground and have a return drain but once I thought of that it raised a bunch of questions...How to gauge pump gph for the setup...What sorta piping configuration to keep waterpressure at the nozzles even throughout(does that even matter? And especially making the seals where the supply/return pipes enter/exit the bucket as well as the connection to the pump(s)...spray painting the buckets...ability to disassemble or remove buckets not in use or do maintenance on a plant etc

I kinda had this idea that if I could get the bucket design setup with 2 threaded ends sticking out the bottom...one to connect the drain and one to connect the supply(it would let me make 9 buckets the same and just get flex lines to supply the water and drain and screw them on when in use and plug shut when not...I went looking for pvc that would have like rubber washers on either end so I could just cut a hole with a drill and screw press the seal on both but had no luck

The nice thing about the waterfarm pipes is that it looks like the lines are all bendy ehh suppose I have lots more supplies to lookup before I can start buildin

Ohhh and where I live we are in like the top 10 in the country in like every bad category...murder...crime...high school dropouts...drugs etc so I figured the seed just fell out a bag when someone was rollin up in the parking lot...although now you got me checking the windows ever 5 minutes hehe

Bonger you have an aero setup right? what configuration did you go with? The more I keep thinkin about it I was figurin the pvc tubes angled back to a res would probably be the simplest just wonderin what ya settled on

ASD...yessir, I do. I use systems from Aquamist. I bought before I realized how easy it would be to build this equipment. Plus at time I had no idea where to get all the parts. I wanted to get things happening and did not want to fuck around trying to build something and need to rework it 14 times before I got it dialed in.

Since then I stumbled across US Plastic, which has anything plastic you need, or they can get it, and a few hydro websites where I could get everything to build whatever the hell I wanted. When I started I concentrated on growing, not building.

Anyways, they work, and work very well.

You wanna do buckets, you need to flag down Latewood on one of his visits. He has bucket growing down to a science.

If I were doing buckets I'd mirror that flood and drain setup they have with seperate controller. But, thats just me.


b0nger

hey bonger do you remember what type of pump you have?

After a ton of reading I've come up with more of a solid idea but it shed light on a rather disturbing note on psi and the aeroponic benefit...I found that pump head height 6'....10'....20' etc is the psi translation and that the flow in gph really doesn't mean much I guess is why pumps with the same head height are pretty close in price and the jumps seem to come with the head height change...I'm still thinking about misting roots in the air anyway even though the benefit seems to be rather limited

Just wonderin if you have any thoughts or came across any info in your travels...I haven't been able to find much specific info on ideal sprayer psi ratings for flow and mist production (droplet size)...unfortunately lack of information has probably lead to millions spent in waste by people thinking the extra gph would make a difference

*mutters* 3 hours of research but atleast I found some answers guess you really get what ya pay for...high psi pumps are really expensive

I have a few new pics to post but it'll have to wait till tomorrow time for bed :)

ASD how about a new photo of the greenies?

Tom, how is that Gravity doing for you? Any issues? I'm planning on trying it this grow.....just turned to 12/12 yesterday.

Weedhound - The gravity is some weird stuff. I think that it does make the plants denser which is nice. However - you know how it says move the lights up six - 12 inches? Well - make sure you actually do move them up a bit. For some reason, after I added the gravity, my top leaves turned very purple and became very photosensitive - which caused light burn - which I believe results from some sort of nutrient build up in the leaves. You will see what I mean. Also - it made my rez a little gunky but not too bad. I am going to try it again on my next grow for the whole 12 days that it recommends. I only ran it for about 4 days b/c the plants were ready to be flushed so I didnt really give it a fair trial.
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When I used it, I cut down my nutes by 1/3. This stuff didnt make my EC go up at all, which was weird. My theory is that the Gravity does not make the EC reading go up b/c it is not a salt. When you pour it in, it looks more like a lipid - you see an oil on water effect. This is def. some weird shit. Correct me if my EC theory is wrong. Peace