they got FAT stems...dont think the T5 would help for the cost...we may just add a few $60 14w cree kits from the guys who did our procyon...or get physicsnole to build it for us....lol
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they got FAT stems...dont think the T5 would help for the cost...we may just add a few $60 14w cree kits from the guys who did our procyon...or get physicsnole to build it for us....lol
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whiskeytango
I think you will really like the array design im thinking. cover the entire surface of one of these heatsinks Bonded Fin/ Standard Parts with the luxeon rebels (only 3mm*4.5mm[13.5mm^2], 0.12"*0.18") and the LedEngin 10W and 15W LEDs(both 7mm* 7mm, 49mm^2). I was thinking of using one of those heatsinks with a width*length*height of 305 mm*371mm*152mm (12"*14.59"*6") , thats 113,155mm^2 cooling area with dual 100cfm fans. on that 113,155m^2 we could fit 8000 luxeon rebel LEDs or 2000 10W LedEngin LEDs!!!!:rastasmoke::rasta::thumbsup::wtf::hippy:( with proper ventilation and cooling). the °C/W rating is .028°C/W, so for it to get 28°C hotter than it would have to receive 1000W of heat energy from the LEDs, voltage regulators, whatever needs to be cooled.
and maybe once i get some funds we could use water cooling systems (like this radio shack one but on a larger scale[will be much cheaper to make]) RadioShack.com - Computers: Components & parts: Cooling systems: Bigwater 735 Liquid Cooling System
What is the cost of this and what is it comparable too? 50 Procyons:thumbsup:.. LOL Good Luck Ill order your first one. I'm looking for all new equipment... When your not confused ;);)LOLQuote:
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T5 are a great source for SUPP Light for Veg or Flower Stealth 54 watt flowering 24 Watt Veg High Output Ballasts
what about the fluorescent bulbs ?? Cheap to buy and operate and cool running too. Do they work just as well ??
what the fuck is that supposed to meanQuote:
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They Look Perky & Healthy, Glad to see You still on Good Schedule. Good Luck on Your Finish!!!~~~~~:rastasmoke:
your a pioneer man dont stop shit. next time drop the light and note results. but whatever you do here is paving the way so no one can tell you anything your going to be like a jorge cervantes of led man. and other than that ive had plants that seemed to shoot out pistols mature then shoot another set pistols half way through flower before they really started to nug up could be cross strain. but whatever you do finish all the plants in this experiment we all want and are going to need this info, my buds dont get fat till like last 2 weeksof flower
I think hes referring to your "current mood"(next to avatar)...lolQuote:
Originally Posted by physicsnole
T5's are great i guess. but this is a LED forum. I am growing with LEDs only. My supplemental light...LEDs. If you wish to add both, awesome..It will work fine. But myself, doughboy, and physicsnole are gonna get this LED thing down, and WILL be the definitive "experts" on LEDs.:angry3: I dont see what physics is confused about, He probably knows more than doughboy and myself on the technical aspects of this. Unless there is someone out there with a grow better than ours, I think we kinda know what we are doing.
anyways, sounds like a plan physics:jointsmile: We can talk more when ya come this way:joint1::weedpoke: brainstorms are great!
thanks for all the kind words guys..and again CFLs, and T5s are great for what they are, we are just gonna be pure LED until we have this thing perfected;):thumbsup:
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whiskeytango
dont worry phatesh:jointsmile: we have no plans on stopping. we are only gonna get better, and better:thumbsup:
WT
Got an eye on this grow now..
LED's have gotten many times brighter over the last few years and now they producing them bright enough to use a single LED for a car headlight.
Luxeon seems to be the best of them last I saw, has anyone looked at some Luxeons and seen if they offer them in different light wavelengths, or more specifically the right light wavelengths?
I might be down for brewing up an array if so.
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netdog please see the first link in our signature for your ?. we, snsstealth know nothing about individual LEDs and dont want to. you will get much better info from the posters in that thread. maybe you could read through part of it. i believe they talk about those alot. sorry but this happens all the time.
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I grew 2 weed plants to the height of 4 feet and i cut it from the base of the plant and removed all the stalks individually and placed them in a cardboard box today and sealed the box because i got some information on the internet from various websites which said after the plant is cut , to keep them in a dark cupboard or a box for 24 hours .
I need to know what to do after 24 hours , i need to know how to dry the weed so i can smoke it ? :jointsmile:
can someone please help me !
I'm just going through my first grow, but judging by my plants and other plants I've seen I'd say your plant looks right on schedule or maybe slightly ahead.Quote:
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They look so healthy and good. The only thing I saw that could be negative was that there was a good bit of stretch between each bud site.
I wish my plants looked that tasty. Keep up the good work. :thumbsup:
use the search engine at the top of the page. type in drying or curing and you will find many threads on this subject. this thread is neither the time or place for such ?'sQuote:
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thanks
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Your mood is confused (others are stonned buzzed) GET IT pal it was a joke. Don't be so hostile Wana answer the quetsions now?;)Quote:
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See Mine I'm Happy
I'm aware this is an LED grow log.... Hey why you Guys so hostile on this post? You just want people telling you thumbs up great job you rule? The guys MOOD is Confused it was JOKE you know up top by his name I think I'm happy.... LOL Maybe you guys should try to be too. Whats the purpose of LED to provide a perfect light spectrum and keep electric bills down. Which does not exist for veg and flower with LEDS yet. So if you think you are going to get the same results @ HPS Impossible. I will Forget the whole T5 Idea but it would work great while giving you a better yield.. "no street light in House" W/ a good Yield...:thumbsup::thumbsup: To my post;)Quote:
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please ask any ?'s on proposed lighting and such on that thread
-----this is our Procyon-100 ONLY grow thread. thank you-----
LED growing- An inst. grow log http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/...-grow-log.html
Asshole
wow..speaking of hostile...notice above? we got that point. you could avoid alot of this shit if you would read other posts. we don't ask for accolades by any means. NOR, do we ask to be told it wont work. you say LEDs don't provide a good spectrum or keep electric down? have you read any of this forum? do you see the buds and trichs forming? room is only 300W. what i am saying, is read up and know your shit if you are gonna say something wont work...the pics don't lie. i answered your questions, politely at first..and you were simply asked to take light theory questions...to the light theory thread. for some reason, we like to talk about LEDs and growing with them, in our LED Growing thread. i know, weird i guess. iwill gladly answer any questions you have on my thread in my thread. i am on the theory thread all the time. i will gladly answer any of your questions on light theories there. easy.Quote:
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whiskeytango
ya i didnt even realize i left my mood on confused. sorry greenleaf!!
What is the cost of this and what is it comparable too
well the cost would be alot, simply because there are thousands of high-power LEDs. i was using it as a comparison to show what we could do. if i ever use that many LEDs i would just but the actual LED chips and make a 10000 LED array (prolly never will though:()
i liked your signature when it was bold and took up half the page:jointsmile:
i cant believe your room is only pulling 300W with that kind of plant development!!!!! well i can believe it, and i do, its just exciting to think about:rastasmoke:
First post of the thread answered your question Greenleaf about supp light. "Pure Led" grow. I really don't think anyone was hostile to you. If someone saying "what the fuck do you mean" comes off hostile to you then you my friend just have some thin skin. I maybe new here but I have been on internet fourms for along time and have seen people get flamed much harded for much less. I think Stealth was very kind in the way he said this was an Led thread. If you would have read this entire thread you would have seen many people asking questions other Led it is something that just gets old after awhile but Stealth each time as handled it without being hostile. Thanks for all the hard work Stealth
My skins a little thicker than you think. It's cool you guys are all tuned up with LED. Just a little quick to get jumped on by others for a post in this fourm. Guys I was discussing advancments which I guess no one is into so Just continue with LED.Quote:
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....really? i guess we aren't into advancements. we must be real behind the "curve".Must be A LOT of people out there doing what we are.you were suggesting ADDING different lights. that is in no way "advancement". its supplementing.... advancement would be, i dunno...perfect spectrum arrays with pulsing LEDs. something like you might find myself, physics, and opie talking about...you guessed it..in the OTHER THREAD. your not grasping a very simple idea here. you point fingers, tell us we aren't into advancement? I'll toot my horn for a sec and say thats the last thing you can tell us. tell me my buds are too small (inside joke), tell me my plants aren't healthy, but don't say we aren't into advancement.Quote:
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really getting tired of this shit....if you don't like what i say, get the fuck outta my thread. there, thats hostile for ya...
as far as anyone with interest or intelligent comments, our plants are doing great, day 32 flowering, made some minor trims to get light to lower buds...bottoms of the canopy..25-30" away from the lights, are resinated. I cant fuckin wait!! I am thinking first harvest will be in 3 weeks, then a bigger one at 6 weeks from now. for some reason that giant girl looks weeks ahead, but JH likes to go a lil long, so i may let her go to the second harvest. the BB looks ready to come down now! but don't worry..she won't get chopped early:jointsmile:
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whiskeytango
Yep I went on over to that thread right after I posted, looks like some really nice info on brewing up a nice light.Quote:
Originally Posted by SnSstealth
I think I'll be looking to build one as soon as I get my current project finished.
hey snsstealth, got a quick ? about those lights you are useing. would they work if i had one light, with 2 or 4 CFLS on the sides of my grow box. Just to get the other spectrum's the leds dont give off. i want to get just one for now to see how i like it. and sooner or later im going to make my own led light board. with all the suggested NM's ive have read about here. Im just trying to get a good idea of what im doing here with these lights. thanks a bunch.
Hey man it's all good...Quote:
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Physicsnole I actually contacted this guy Roy Welch he works for big big LED company or some shit like that. They will build any diagram you can possibly draw out. After that it is your job to market and patent it. If you don't have a diagram to work off of they charge $90.00 per Hr to have there engineers draw up the sketches.
My reason for contacting him was to possibly jump on this whole LED theory before it really takes off to the next level. Shit there are all types of people selling all diffrent LED lights on ebay stating all weird shit. Who knows if they're true.. LOL He suggested to me to not have there engineers design because of cost. It's still not to late for that maybe with your Knowledge you may want to send in your theory just to see what it would cost to produce. Really they are the largest developers of Led's you can google his name with Leds on it to get his contact Info. If you can not find it I have it that would be great to be selling your shit in HIGH TIMES. Let me know ill get you a good price on the add. LOL Good Luck go for it..
It's your grow log SNSSTELTH ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Trainwreck024
welcome to the forum tranwreck..please direct differant lighting ideas to the first link in our signiture. that is the LED light theory thread. we are an all LED grow thread...
think i may just post this post every 5 posts or so....lol
WT
Hey, Folks: One of my electronic assembly customers is a Phd.
electrical engineer, and we started last month working on an
adjustable, flexible, and updatable LED lamp...have you guys, or anyone you know, been able to match Halide/HPS production?
We are going to be doing grow trials in L.A. and NoCal in about eight weeks....any input would be appreciated. DarioT.
Ehhh, i dont think they can replicate mh/hps yet.... from what ive read, but there trying?...did u read anything on this thread or u just saw first page and post reply?! lol good info if u re and spend the time...ask your ELEC ENG to do it if u wont :SQuote:
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thanks sticky;)..took the words outta my mouth. dariot..if you read the whole thread, you might have all the input you want. try the other thread in our signature as well. What are you basing your info on? the high times chart? have you seen pot grown with LEDs. yet? there is alot of info on both thread as to what freq. and such you may need. if you have any questions after reading up, we will gladly answer them. but please post questions in the appropriate thread. thanks for your input and interest in LEDs. good luck to ya:thumbsup:
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whiskeytango
as of now, it looks like we are on par with HIDs. but we wont know till harvest...stick around a few more weeks:jointsmile:
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Agreed....;) LOLQuote:
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Although it could be done depending on bulbs price could be very costly to replicate. To duplicate HPS or MH there is still a way to go.
Optoloco Custom LEDs Custom LED assemblies Led manufacturer
You can go here and they will build it for you.. Then there will be engineers telling us if infact it is possible to get the perfect spectrum. They have equipment that is necessary to test all this shit. I guess you can build then send out to have it checked and mesured or just grow.. LOL LOOKING @ there plants 1/2 way finished almost. They still have a way to mature which can be done. My friend just harvested a crop less the 4 weeks ago. 3000 watts 3 1/2 Lbs. Looking @ there equipment and plants I think a good yeild would be 1 1/2 Lbs. It's costly to go led if you spend $1800 on lamps and dont yeild 1 1/2 then thats bad. They will not be ready for large grows anytime soon. Thats just my opinion.
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i would think 3lb outta 3kw is actually low, remember we are at only 300w. are you talking about an LED grow? how is an engineer not growing pot gonna tell anyone if its a perfect spectrum? perfect for what? anyone can have an IDEA what would be the perfect spectrum. you dont need to be an engineer for that. pshysics or opie aren't engineers? as far as i know...lol physics is already building an array, as is veggii. we appreciate your interest, but thats the second time you have posted to those LED manufacturers. some of the admin. which i am not by the way, might call that flaming, or spamming, not sure what they call it. i would love to see some pics, or a log on this grow your friends did. got any info?
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whiskeytango
Looking good so far SNS! I just went back and compared your last photos to my last grow...your 4th week of flower looks to have a bit more on the tricome production than mine did :thumbsup:, of course that small of variation could very well be genetics, ferts, ect....I'll take it as a good sign for LED's.
For comparison sakes mine was NLX in soil with 400 watts of fluorescents, 4 weeks veg. Yeah I know most everyone wants to know how LED's compare to HPS, but I'm easy, for me it is looking great so far.....it is looking more likely than not I will be going LED in the near future.....:smokin:
Keep up the good work!
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That's nice..Quote:
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SPAM don't think so... Just some research..This whole LED started out with NASA and the space program not you
Wow you can't be more of an asshole Stelath YOUR GETTING ON MY NERVES? I'm done with you your blocked.
Your Friends are cool. They sent me REPS for my post on led's Asking me more info buddy.
This whole LED started out with NASA and the space program NOT YOU.
Hey They don't test anything NASA in there advancments? There just a bunch of assholes like you stealth. You know I did do a little resarch on LED and was told they can mesure the light and draw it in diffrent ways. Even thought about possibly designing one. Maybe Ill just back PHYS. Was going to take a trip to Cali to sit with there engineers to see if it's feesable. To run test to reach maximum output.
Ok grow up I'm done with you your blocked.... You can bring a JackAss to water but if he does not drink he is still a JackAss.. LOL anyone want procyons just order and wait 3 days.. BLOCKED
well honestly I've been thinking about what the "perfect" spectrum should be. and i have a couple of ideas. first, by best do we mean efficiency? or actual absorption? on the high times chart there shows to be pretty much 100% absorption at 425nm and 660nm. thinking about this i started thinking...if we provide only 425 and 660 then most of our light we supply in those two wavelengths, and if the charts are correct, will be absorbed almost 100% , meaning almost almost all of all the light energy we put out will be absorbed by the plants, making the LEDs about 100% PAR (right?). isnt that what we want??? do we really need to hit these other peaks (440,470,642,etc.) or can we just supply these two wavelengths, 425 and 660nm? having more LEDs and colors will reduce efficiency but also increase absorption by the individual pigments. as of now i don't think i could answer these questions. but with some testing i think i can. i will perform a test with 425 and 660 on one or two plants and on another ill try all the peaks, and form there we can compare the results, and hopefully that will tell us if supplying just 425nm and 660nm is just as good (and even more efficient) than providing all the peak wavelengths. as of now 425nm high-power LEDs are not commercially available, so this is one limiting factor. also 660nm high-power LEDs are a new development and still have some improvement. also blue light has more energy than red light, so providing more blue light in the array would mean more PAR or umol/s/m^2. but we still want to keep the light ratio of red to blue right at about 2:1 B:R for veg and 7:2 R:B (something like this) for flowering. I'm starting to think about this whole "peak" wavelength we've been talking about for a while. do the peaks even matter? at 470nm there is about 81% absorption for all pigments and about 77% for chlorophyll b. im just tossing ideas around here. :rastasmoke:Quote:
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oh fuck wrong thread...sorry SnS!!!