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cooked it on high tonight for 2 more hours. It sorta worked this time i took 5 pills that again or about half the size of 00. But it wasnt nearly anything good enogh to have wasted that much bud on. Guess ill try it with dro next time and see if that makes a difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by umpnum14
Im glad to hear it sorta worked. Just a suggestion if you havent tried it, get a thermometer (Cant be meat cause it only goes up to 220) you need one that measures higher temps although as weed has stated he puts it on 225 all night. If you dont have a thermometer get one before you do the next batch becuase you need to be able to at least rule out the temp. Personally I think the thermometer is just as vital as the crockpot imhoQuote:
Originally Posted by ItSmokin
ok and what is the ideal temp and what is too high? And would you recomend me trying with dro next time or maybe the temp thing could eliminate the problem and still try with some mids. One more thing lol, what if i just put an 1/8th of mids in there, it would do the same thing with just less pills right?Quote:
Originally Posted by umpnum14
Weed (a contributor to this board) has his own thread that he started from this reciepe and swears by 225 overnight. you want to keep the temp below the vaporization. Basically if you get it to hot your releasing the thc into the air and not the oil. According to the people at NORML the vaporizing temp of Gods greatest herb is around 180 to 190 c 356-375 f. Try 225 and try not to let it get over 275-300. Also how are you grinding/chopping your weed. You want to get your weed almost powder consistent for the best results (The more surface area in contact with the oil, the more trichomes that are exposed to the oil) In regards to the potency you have to be careful not to use too little oil for the weed. Flame (the creater of this post) has found that messing with the ratio can cause problems. The ratio that apperantly works is 1 1/2 teaspoon of Coconut oil to 1.5 Grams of dank. I wouldnt try this reciepe with anything less then mids. Its a vital indgredent.
The 4 T's to THC extraction IMHO
1. Temp - 225-275 try not let it spike over 300
2. Time - Let cook overnight
3. Texture - Grind Grind Grind to as fine a powder as you can
4. THC Content - Dont use anything less then mids
5. THC Ratio Don't use to much herb to oil. (I f i want to try something stronger i would just take a few extra)
Hope that helps
i read going through the thread again that grinding makes a huge difference... all i had was scissors and my fingers so ill invest in a coffee grinder maybe and see if that helps and maybe ill listen to you guys and try the oven overnight instead of the crockpot this time. Thanks alot will be reporting in :)Quote:
Originally Posted by umpnum14
Be careful with the oven. Basically if your stinking up your house ubake it too high. The smell shouldnt be overbearing. I would highly suggest reviewing this thread http://boards.cannabis.com/concentra...ns-recipe.html before starting a new batch. Dont want to waste ur stuff. Weed took flames recipe (creator of this thread) and has tinkered with it for years. Swears by itQuote:
Originally Posted by ItSmokin
my turn to contribute:D
have now tried this 4 times.
the combination which works best so far was the latest.
-1.5g of keef
-3.5g of prime nug (white widow) (3 stage ground, see below)
-3.5 teaspoons clarified butter
-crockpot, low setting, lid vented 3/4 in and small towel on top.
-temps approx 220-250F
-approx 20-24 hrs simmer
-yield, 20 caps.
I use what I call a 3-stage grinding process.
I have a standard grinder w keef screen that i use first.
I have a compact, no-screen, single chamber grinder that I re-grind the first batch with.
I then take that and put it in a tea strainer and hand grind it thru the screen with a tablespoon.
This leaves me with a thimble-worth of tiny sticks which i toss out.
This also leaves me with a finely ground powder almost the same grit/texture as the keef I then combine with it and mix well before adding to the clarified butter.
unbiased and objective reviews are difficult for me personally due to my daily smoking intake, LOL. But, when I took 2 I had a nice buzz for most of the night.
Personally, I use them as maintenance. 1 with breakfast, 1 with lunch, with occassional trips outside with my 1-hitter. When I go home, I smoke most of the night. Basically, I've been pleased with my days:thumbsup:
I gave 2 to a friend and he said they lasted for 5 hours and were fantastic when taken together. Then he asked for more:D
I guess that means they are pretty good.:smokin:
I do plan on making another larger batch after I get another batch o nugz:pimp:
I use a black & decker coffee grinder. Run it for a couple of minutes and shake it to make sure it keeps hitting the blades. Basically powder by the time it's done. Just make sure to let it settle before opening it. Or you can run it for about 20 to 30 seconds and still have it in small chunks and scrape a huge amount of pollen off the lid. Not sure if it damages the glands heads or not, or whether that would matter for this preparation, but i like the results I've gotten.
Happy 420!! Made some of the capsules last night (from the OP's recipe; I made them before, and the results couldn't be better!). Gonna be a GREAT day :jointsmile:
is it necessary to have gelatin capsules or can i use vegetarian capsules as a substitute?
Use gelatin. The vegetarian capsules can leak from contact with oil.
hello,
I just joined this site for this thread. I've smoked this stuff for 10 years but i haven't been inspired to try cooking it until this thread. so :thumbsup: to the scientists here. This could be my new thing.. if i can get it right.
I tried this friday night, and it kind of worked. I think my ratio was off and the temp was too high since it smelled in the other room.
I got a sack of high-grade mids, its leafy outdoor stuff but has a fair amount of orange hairs and some dankish looks but still a cousin of scwag in some ways but no seeds. strange bud, not the greatest, but if i do 4 or 5 bong rips it packs a little zing. I figured it's perfect to try since I don't want to waste some real shit until I know this works.
Anyway, I got a crock pot and extra virgin organic coconut oil (this really is great stuff). I used my grinder 2x on the bud to steal the kif. Then I pushed it through the screen on this sifter I got at target that actually has a pretty fine screen. :) I took a level teaspoon of this real fine weed powder, and mixed it with about 1.25 tablespoons of the oil in a 4" round pyrex dish. Put this in the crockpot on low for 2 hrs 15 mins.
I pulled it out, poured the oil back over the sifter, pressed on the bud to squeeze more down, and discarded that stuff that was still on top. The oil was a dark army or olive green. I ate a bunch of it last night.. felt a little something but not like others have described, a good body high when I went to bed but that's it.
SO I am going to try again today, I'm going to tweak the ratio (more bud) and remove the lid every 45 minutes or so to stir. I am also going to use the bud as well as the oil this time.
My question is, I don't have a scale, how much is 1.5 grams in tablespoon units? And how much is 7 grams of coconut oil also?
I didn't bother with the capsule mess, just pour it on the plate and eat what looks like 3 capsules. After that didn't work I ate what was probably 8 or 10 so I must have did something wrong
ok well I did it again, this time with more bud and a little longer cooking time. better results, but still looking for more. I am having some trouble walking and have a great body high but am still well grounded. I also smoked a bit and it seems to work much better, i.e. they work in tandem :rastasmoke:
I think the problem is the lousy bud, next time I will have some good nugget to experiment with. I am also looking for a small oven thermometer to watch the temp a bit closer, I still smelled up the house a bit. I am working with a Rival 4 qt. oval crockpot, preheated on low, with lid and in a pyrex dish - is that too hot? I ended up going out instead of periodically removing the lid and stirring like I wanted to, I think that would help also
With any type of oral consumption the results you get are heavily tied to the product you start with. The high end stuff that is trippy to smoke will have a similar effect orally (depending on the dosage.
Hi EatWeed, I think I can help you some with making the capsules, or you can also check out weedhounds thread. I learned a lot from that one also. I'll just go through your post and give some comments on what works for me. You had high-grade mids. That's fine but the better the weed the better the capsule. I've started using fire mids because I can get a higher ratio bud:oil that way. Right now I get about .2g per cap. or just below and from the sound of your tolerance you might want to move up your ratio. I use equal number of tsp of oil to grams of herb. So 7g of herb would get 7 tsp of oil. I'll get about 35-40 caps with this. Your mix of 1.25 tbsp of oil to 1 tsp of herb seems light.
As for grinding, personally I like to run my coffee grinder for about 2 minutes alternating between pulsing, 10 sec hold where I shake it and full start and stops, to try and chop it super fine. Then I open it and scrape the lid and the grinder(you can run it again to get the lid to fill with resin again, I usually do this about 3 or 4 times). I don't bother with a sifter. You want to keep the plant matter in it all the way into the pills. Also I would use a smaller dish than the 4" one. I use a small porcelain coffee cup, or a small ramekin, or an egg holder, depending on the amount I use.
Putting the crockpot on low should be okay. At least it is with mine. I got a $4 over thermo from walmart. Stays steady at 247 degrees, except when I remove the lid it drops to about 220. Check the temp for all 3 settings if you get a thermo. Make sure to leave it on each setting for at least an hour to get it up to temp, and start with the lowest with testing, it can take some time for the temp to drop to its steady lvl. I stir about every hour or hour and a half for about 4 or 5 times. Then I usually go to bed and let it cook over night. Not sure if this is a good idea it's just the way I do it.
Then I turn it off and take out the dish. I pour everything into a soft plastic mesh kitchen strainer I got from a dollar store into one of the 3 dishes I use. Let it stand for about 30 minutes to make sure it is drained of oil and everything has cooled down. During this time I'll fill the caps into the machine. For every gram i load 5 caps(I'm usually right with margin of error of about 5 or less).Then I use an eyedropper to put 10 drops of oil into each cap. I put all the plant matter back into the cup. Then I use small knives to pick up a small bit of herb and place it into each indivudual cap with a cap-m-quick filler. If you don't have steady hands (or patientsfor something so tedious) you can just dump the herb on the filler and scrape it into the caps with a credit card, but I feel this would lead to a lot of the oil being wasted so I don't do it. Although if you are making bulk amounts then I would do the cc method.
Then I close up the caps. Make sure to give em a good little squeeze to close them. You should feel it lock in. If you have the cap filled over the brim it will probably leak out just a tiny bit. I like my caps clean so I do my best not to spill on the outside of them when filling or to overfill them. Then I throw them in a small container and put them in a drawer in the fridge to keep the light exposure down to a minimum. I don't like them in the freezer. I personally think they go bad faster. At least they would tend to give me a headache if they were in there for too long. I try not to make more than a months worth at a time. Plus you can build up a tolerance to them if you are taking the same strain cap everyday for a few weeks.
Sorry for being so long winded and I know my way is pretty anal and most people would get fed up with it, but to all you people out there with OCD this might be the recipe for you.
Oh and I don't know how much 1.5g is in tbs units, but I would approximate a tsp to about 1 gram. I'm not positive, just a guess. I would try a tsp of oil to a tsp of ground herb.
You can find everything you need on amazon or or wholesale websites. Scale, caps, cap machine. The kitchen stuff at walmart. You have the coco oil already, but most health food stores carry it also. Just keep making small batches, and try to get precice with your recipe. Took me a half dozen tries before I felt like I knew what I was doing and I still constantly ask questions to see what input other people might have about little things I come across. Definitely get that thermometer too just to give you an idea of what temps you are running. 220 to 260 I think would be ideal. 250 is great for me.
Good luck and let us know how your future batches come out.
How much coconut oil was used?
I had to make an account to tell you thanks. Planning on trying it out as soon as i can get the supplies together, great guide!:thumbsup:
Ok so a quick summary, I've never cooked with cannabis before, but this recipe caught my attention :-D
I put said materials into a blender and made sure they were all chopped VERY finely, *almost* to the point of powder.
I've put 1tsp of coconut oil into 1g of good bud, and made sure to remove all stems and the 2 or 3 small point leaves that were attached.
I'm planning on making 5-6 capsules and use this as a test.
Now my question (Sorry it took so long to get to the point hehe)
It's been half an hour and the coconut oil has melted, but it is still a clear colour, the cannabis however seems to have turned a darker brownish colour.
Is this correct, or should I be doing something differently?
Sorry for the new post, I don't know how (if it's possible) to edit a previous post on these forums so I just hit reply and here I am.
I put the crockpot on high, and the oil is already turning a lovely green colour, so I'm going to leave it on high for few hours (checking it every 15-20 minutes and changing temperature if it begins to smell/vaporize)
I can't wait to try these things, should be great - MASSIVE thanks to FlameOn and WeedHound for their efforts in this, i've been worried about cooking with cannabis for a long time but using a slow-cooker I'm much more in my element :-)
ive noticed with buds it works better if u do the oven thing then leave it on low like 4-5 hours.
I dont know if this batch turned out really well or not, but I'm making another batch on Tuesday so I'll try to decarb them (That's the oven thing I'm assuming?), and then put them on low in a slow-cooker for 5 hours :-D
I will have to upload pics later on to show you, but I took the weakest capsule and it's so far given me a nice floaty feeling (about 2 hours in)
There's 1 that has about 3x as much of the solution in it, so I'm going to try that one tomorrow in the morning and see if I'm rolling around lunch-time hehe
Even if the recipe didnt work for me this time, it's definitely easilly enough to repeat :-D
Just a quick update: Tried 2 of them, and neither worked very much :(
Had some food and that was awesome, but overall not a REALLY strong high
I suspect it's because the coconut oil that I used was a cheap brand, and i dont think it was pure coconut oil/didnt have the right nutrients to absorb the most thc
So i'm going to try another small batch of 6 caps from ~1g of bud.
The plan is to leave the mixture to set in the egg cup, and then spoon it out so that it's easier to cap (I tried capping the liquid/plant matter today, it's not easy w/a syringe if you cant get your weed powdered hehe)
Anyway, I may or may not decarb the bud first, as I read somewhere on another forum that when using in slow-cooker with the oil, it decarbs gradually and then begins to combine with the oil.
Can anyone verify/confirm/deny/disprove this?
Either way i just want it clarified hehe
I am making some right now.
i personally found that it is way easier to control the temp and water getting in the ramican(sp?) to just use an empty pan with the pyrex rami in the center of the pan and the temp on between min and 2 and it keeps it right in between 225f-250f. This shit smells delicious i might just eat it all at once that would be hilarious!!! :S2:
i also added my bud to the coconut oil the night previous for maximum absorption of the weed to oil.
i'll let you guys know how they turn out..
peace
ok so i got them all capsuled up and stuff look exactly like they should i took one and licked ll the excess oil off the plate that i used to cap it up i am def feeling high i havent smoked for a few hours and i feel like i just smoked...
okay so the caps i made were pretty good didnt smoke weed all day yesterday and by the time i got some it was take like 2 or 3 hours after i just popped 2 and didnt even feel like smoking i was already high. but those were with the AK-47 i have some regs(mids) thes time.
im trying to cut costs. they cost me like 3.25 each last time and this way its only under .25 . i know that i will have to take more but thats ok still cheaper. i would have to 13 for one of the other ones.
oh and i switched to using oven at like 235F keeps it a lil hotter than that at like 245F and bake for 4-5 hours. i found that grinding in the with oil works quit well to release everything.
Regs works great too. Just expect a different high. Plus you can up the dosage by doing this. When I tried using the cheaper stuff I could make each one with twice the amount of weed for less than half the price.
For me a good guide for choosing weed to use is this: If I get a good high off a single bowl and it lasts a while I will use it to make caps. have to smoke a couple of bowls to get high you will have to take a couple of caps to get high.
Also, figure out how much is in each dose. If you started with 5g of cleaned and processed bud and end up with 27 capsules. Then each cap has .185g of herb in it. The average bowl has 2g in it so this would probably be a good strong dose. I use to make them with about .11g in each and I found myself always taking 2 or 3 to get the high I wanted.
You can add vaped weed to them also. Gives it more of a stoney feeling. But don't add more oil because you added vaped weed.
Hi guys
Not been around for a while so thought Iâ??d drop by to say hello to the old (and new) gang, and say â??Thanksâ?? for all the help, feedback and contributions that this thread has attracted over the â?¦wow, is it really almost two years now? Time sure does fly when youâ??re having fun.
So, I thought Iâ??d take a stab at answering a couple of the outstanding questions, and post up a couple of updated â??hints and tipsâ?? for anyone still encountering difficulty in hitting the â??sweet spotâ?? when making these.
Long term storage of â??rawâ?? THC product, and processed capsules.
Sadly, thereâ??s little scientific research into the long term storage of THC/Cannabis products other than: It degrades over time, and, when exposed to light. But, as to how much potency is lost, and over what period of time? Well, there it gets a bit vague.
As part of my own (unscientific) experimentation, Iâ??ve stored both processed and unprocessed THC/ Cannabis products in both the fridge and freezer, in a variety of forms for over a year now and thought Iâ??d post back on what I think are the best options..
In my experience the â??harsherâ?? environment of the freezer degrades the THC at a slightly faster rate than the fridge.
As part of a test, I prepared two batches of capsules earlier this year using identical THC samples. One had been stored in the freezer for six months, the other, in the fridge. Both had been sealed in vacuum packed plastic containers and kept in complete darkness.
On average, the batch made using the THC stored in the fridge was, based on the opinion of a cross section of â??testersâ??, about 20 percent stronger.
For comparison purposes, they were made â??side-by-sideâ??, cooked at the same temperature and for the same length of time.
In addition, Iâ??ve found that, â??dryâ?? THC products: Kief, powdered bubble hashes, etc do better for long term storage than regular hashes, honey oils, etc.
As far as long term storage of prepared capsules is concerned, my personal recommendation would be the fridge rather than the freezer. Preferably upright in a holder, like the â??Cap-m-quikâ?? container, or a piece of polystyrene (or florists foam) that youâ??ve put capsule sized holes in.
Stored in this way, and using coconut oil as a medium, theyâ??ll still be ok to take for up to a year, though you will lose some potency. Itâ??s a little harder to estimate but in my experience Iâ??d expect to lose somewhere around 30 percent of their original potency over the period of a year (assuming theyâ??ve been stored as outlined above).
Would love to hear anyone elseâ??s experiences of long term storage though, so feel free to post up any info. All help gratefully received.
Gelatin or Vegetarian Capsules?
Firstly, as far as getting the THC into your system is concerned, both do the job equally well. However, there are some Pros and Cons to both.
Ethically some people may not feel happy about using Gelatin capsules due to them being made from animal products (donâ??t ask where they come from if your not a vegetarian, I wouldnâ??t want to put you off, lol.).
However, from a construction point of view, the Gelatin capsules are stronger and firmer than their vegetarian counterparts making them slightly easier to handle when filling.
The thinner construction of the vegetarian capsules makes them feel somewhat â??flimsyâ?? in comparison. Also, as a consequence, they can be prone to leakage if not stored upright, and particularly if the oil used remains in liquid form.
Iâ??ve also noted that the â??smellâ?? and â??tasteâ?? of the oil permeates the vegetarian capsule membrane over time, and this can be particularly off putting for people who arenâ??t keen on the taste when they swallow them. This effect is accelerated and worsened if they are stored loosely together (part of the reason I suggest separating them out in the â??long term storageâ?? section above).
Aside from these issues, either type will dissolve within five minutes of use, so just bear in mind how, and how long you intend to store and use them.
Hope that helps.
Cooking times and temperatures.
The most critical aspect of the process.
Here I must say a big â??Thank Youâ?? to all the people who took the time and trouble to post up there personal experiences (good and bad), you guys really helped refine the process and showed everyone else what the potential pitfalls can be and how to avoid them. Cheers on behalf of us all â?? you know who you are.
As itâ??s already been covered in some detail Iâ??ll keep this part brief, but to reiterate Weedhoundâ??s most excellent advice, keep it slow and steady.
Around 225 to 250 Fahrenheit is fine.
Everyoneâ??s cooker will operate at slightly different temperatures, so get an accurate thermometer if you can, and if you want to perfect the technique, prepare a batch of oil in a cup or similar (Pyrex lab wear if you want to be really accurate) and try a couple. Give it a couple of days for your tolerance to reset, reheat the oil again at a higher temp or for a longer time, and sample again. Hell itâ??s fun, and the benefits are, youâ??ll end up using less THC for a stronger â??highâ?? when youâ??ve got the method right for your kit.
Keep up the good work
Cheers
Flameon
tahnks flame works so good
My crockpot has a keep warm setting that keeps the temp around 160f I believe. Could I cook it on this setting for like 24 hours? Then there would be no risk of losing anything. I would think that over that period of time the THC would convert to its active form.
Jebus2029, I don't think that temp is high enough to really extract much THC my friend. I think it needs something over the 200 degree mark to begin breaking down.
Even over long periods of time? Like 24 hours? I would think it would break it down over that long a period. Like how you bake it at 300 for 5 minutes when making green dragon, or you can bake it at 200 for 20 minutes. I would think an even longer period at a lower temp would work. I am sure there is a limit to how low you can go. I just don't have the herb to experiment with :)
Flameon, you sir should be praised and respected! Great thread!
But I had to sign up to ask a question, I'm sure it was answered sometime in the past three years, but reading through 30somthing pages is pain.
For the pan and mixing bowl method, how long should the mixture be left in the pan for?
And this one might be kind of stupid but I need to ask, would a rice cooker sufice as crock pot?
Also wanted to add, Magic Bullet is perfect for turning grass to powder.
this is a great thread..first off, BIG thanks for post thishttp://boards.cannabis.com/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif
Now, ive tried making edibles many times, and all but one were a complete fail--and even teh one taht did work, im not too sure how well it did--. Anyways, im making a batch in my crockpot right now, and the temps im reading now are getting me a little bit concerned. I have my crockpot on low, and when i test the liquid with my candy thermometer, it reads 320f+/-. Im not too concered with that temp and the thc vaping, as i remember the temp for vapourization is higher than 350f..BUT i was reading that you simmer yours on low, and you get temps at 225/235?
What should i do? Should i cook it for less time? maybe 1-2 hours? Or should i just crack the lid a bit and let it simmer at a lower temp?
Does it have a keep warm setting? If not you could always leave the lid off to keep the temp down. Not sure if it would degrade any faster from open air contact or not. If it's only 5 hours I think it'll be fine
:thumbsup:1st Off Thank U FLAMEON & WEEDHOUND 4 takin the time 2 test and retest THE MIX! Thank U also 4 answering questions and givin suggestions 2 make it a better batch:thumbsup:
A few things that kill me about people posting N here is when they say :
I did EXACTLY what you said and it didn't work!! When questioned on their process its never EXACTLY how they were told how to do it ... U find out they are not using the proper measurements of either oil, weed, or heat.
another 1 is
I read the whole thread ... then later asks ...can U use a crock pot to make this?
AHHHHHH !!!!!! ..Ok I'm calm now ... :jointsmile:
I 1st made a test batch from reading a few pages and actually got a nice buzz ..not killer but ok. I admit becuz it was a test batch I actually made a lot of mistakes in the process that I didn't think would make a difference (still got a buzz tho:smokin:)..... UNTIL I READ it ALLLLL!!!
I kno now that my temps were a bit off on my crockpot due to no way to gauge true temp (jus got a candy thermo)
The bud was only 1g (wonderwoman) and wasn't a FINE GRIND with too much oil. My cook time could have been longer also.
Once I get my coffee grinder today I will make a batch a reply back ....
The main reason why I would like to use this method is 2 reasons.... I want 2 reduce my smoke consumption bcuz its a killer when workin out (starting 2 try and get N shape). Also I travel alot so poppin these will make me feel safer than lighting up in my hotel bathroom ... with the shower runnin and a wet towel under the door:D. Im plannin a week vacation next month and I really want 2 get this mix right. I'm shooting 4 a dose strenght of 2 to 3 pill per day so 25 pills would b my magic number 4 a fun filled vacation..
UPDATE:smokin:Quote:
Originally Posted by alias1
I couldn't make it out to Walmart for a cheapO grinder ... But I still wanted 2 give this another try becuz when I tested the VCO temps N my cheapo crock pot I found out what a lot of people have discovered.... I have a cheap crock pot! I have 3 settings on my crock .... warm, low, high oh my!! The high setting gets over 300F (porage 2 Hott) the low setting doesn't get over 200F (porage 2 cold) so we wont talk about warm :mad: so basically i followed WeedHound's advice 2 play the temp game .. 2 keep it around 225 for 2.5hrs.. best batch so far ..... I believe without that fine grind I should have cooked it longer .... This next batch should B perfect:dance:
Great job! :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by alias1
Hope you get a good batch nailed down in time for your vacation.
I took a supply with me over the summer holidays and discovered a whole new sport.
A couple of caps an hour or two after breakfast (before hitting the beach) set up the day fantastically, but the best part... an aqua pack for my ipod and a set of water-proof earphones while snorkeling! Man, not only could I understand what the fish were saying ..but they could understand me. Though I did get a little paranoid when one of the lil' beggars started following me trying to find out what I was on.
Anyhow, have fun and enjoy.
Flameon
Hi there. I saw you said you want to reduce your consumption to try and get in shape. Why not use weed to your advantage? It may not work for everyone but weed actually helped me to get into shape. I was diagnosed with depression back in 2006 while I was in the military. I had started gaining weight from it(somehow in my mind I thought if I got really fat I could get out of the service) and I was battling suicidal thoughts. They put me on an antidepressant (I think it was zoloft, but I'm not sure of that) and then I just blew up. I got up to 270 lbs (when I joined I was about 165). When I found out I was going to be discharged I weened myself off my meds and was off them about a week before I was back home.Quote:
Originally Posted by alias1
So there I was, 270 lbs, feeling better because I was a free man again, but in desperate need of losing weight. First thing I did when I got home was start smoking with my friends again (which I feel helped saved me from depression). I had to change my diet and I began exercising. I was worried about working out high because I thought I would hurt myself, but that never happened. Weed would make me focus when I needed to (like when lifting weights), and was excellent for cardio (you can zone out much easier).
I recommend trying it sometime as long as you can stay in control. Get on a elliptical while high and just go to town. If you disconnect your mind from what your body is doing you won't get tired nearly as fast and you will notice you are going faster too. Control your breathing too. If you are breathing fast you get tired fast. Nice slow breathes through the nose. It may take some practice and it might be a little scary at first doing it in front of other people, but no one will really pay close enough attention to know. A few times people have called me out on it but in each case they laughed about it and said how they do it too sometimes.
If you can join a 24 hour gym I would go with that. I would smoke about 11 at night go into the gym and do 1.5 hours of cardio broken by 3 sets of weight training, lunges, or whatever else I wanted to do. There were barely ever any other people in there. Also bring an ipod with your music whenever you workout. It will make a huge difference also.
I was down to 155 lbs in exactly 1 year and a day from the time I started to exercise (I was focusing on cardio and didn't really push myself to gain muscle mass). Then over the following year I went up to about 185 by putting on muscle. Since then I've hovered right around 170 (I haven't been working out due to an elbow injury I got while trying new exercises without the correct form).
I would sometimes use the caps for this too. I might hit my single hitter and pop 2 caps just before going to the gym. That way I would have a mild buzz walking in, when I would most likely be talking to people, and by the time it wore off the caps would start kicking in. I find working out speeds up the onset of them also. The feeling of the caps is totally different for working out also. The first time I tried was a little weird. My body felt kinda mushy while doing cardio.
Man that was long winded. I guess it's not really related to the caps, other than the fact that I would take them before working out sometimes, but I thought this could help you or someone else out. Good luck.