Do you believe in god?

Check you out!!! :cool:

**is proud**

I told you. :)

1. Thesaurus not dictionary actually. And look at the definitions of both and take an english language class....

2. Nobody did believe in penicillin UNTIL it was discovered.....Nice circular reasoning though ;). (Science doesnt work like religions)

3. Occam's Razor is actually the most widely used scientific thought process, but hey you attack it all you want(after all its an attack on logic and thats obviously not a strong thing in religious circles).

4. O.J had more than hearsay conjecture etc, ever heard of DNA.....Why do you think that trial was such a travesty and everyone knew he did it. Because the evidence came out and it was physical.....(ie: forensic physical evidence, BLOOD.....) Nice try though almost as nice as your dismissal of Occam's Razor without any actual counter point.

5. There is more at stake your correct, however that doesnt negate my point that every single religion has zero evidence....arguing the merits of violence of the christian god vs the sugar plum fairy are nonsensical as it was allegorical. Neither have evidence yet one is believed one is not.....now does it make sense to you?

Most "miracles" are given simple explanations and proved does this mean that "God" did the rest....I dont understand what your trying to say by "teasing" about most and unexplainable(which is defined as not being able to explain something at the moment...not forever...) I'm pointing out Nessie is as likely (and in fact MORE likely than any god showing up). As are Aliens ironically (something made impossible by the bible and christian dogma as "were" the only ones in the universe made especially for us remember....).

But hey pick up the strawman and beat that sucker to death and don't counter any point I dont mind in the least gives me a good laugh ;).

Nice post, Weirdo.

It confuses me how some people can choose to ignore such blatant logic and reasoning.

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Originally Posted by beachguy in thongs

Well, you can replace "belief in God" with "playing marbles", I don't care, I was just saying you gotta keep a kid occupied with pure thoughts.

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This is what I don't get about Christianity. It teaches that in the absence of any other influence, everybody is wicked and starts thinking wicked evil things. I really do believe that people are on the whole good creatures. It teaches that everybody is a fundamentally evil being, but some people have a layer of good plastered over that.

But in the real world, left to their own devices, most people will not just go out raping and murdering. Rather, we cooperate to ensure mutual well-being. That's why society exists in the first place.

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Originally Posted by ermitonto

This is what I don't get about Christianity. It teaches that in the absence of any other influence, everybody is wicked and starts thinking wicked evil things. I really do believe that people are on the whole good creatures. It teaches that everybody is a fundamentally evil being, but some people have a layer of good plastered over that.

But in the real world, left to their own devices, most people will not just go out raping and murdering. Rather, we cooperate to ensure mutual well-being. That's why society exists in the first place.

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Yeah, and on the issue of family morals, where Christians claim to hold a monopoly, isn't it ironic that the divorce rate in the more religious southern states is way higher than that liberal, amoral bastion that is Massachussetts?

Irony is wasted on Republicans and Christians.

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Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR

To believe in God is to believe you know the Answer to all of mans great questions and in my opinion is the height of man's arrogance.

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I donâ??t know where your getting this fromâ?¦â?¦.To believe in God does not mean that you think you have figured everything out.

You can still believe in God and not know the answers to all of lifeâ??s mysteries.

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Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR

Regarding your second point;

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Lolâ?¦..my second point was actually your pointâ?¦..I basically said the same thing you did but I put the word NOT in thereâ?¦.:)

I think your wrong ��..I think you DO have to proves that GOD does not exist. I think that your beliefs carry a burden of proof equal to mine.

After all when it comes down to it you have two choices to consider.

Either you believe in God or you do not.

(And by God I mean in the broadest senseâ?¦..people have more trouble defining God than believing in â??himâ?�)

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Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR

If something is in front of you then that is proof enough that it exiss; however to say something doesn't exist is, by all accounts, impossible to prove.

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I agree with you on this point.

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Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR

You could search the known universe for God and never find him, and a Christian search as yourself could (and probably would) say "you didn't look far enough.. he's in the next universe over". This would be impossible to disprove.

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I think you are under the impression that I am looking for God the way that people look for their car keysâ?¦My search to â??findâ?� God is not a destinationâ?¦..it is a journey or something of a spiritual arrival.

The actual â??findingâ?� part comes nextâ?¦..or so they sayâ?¦.:)

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However, judging by what we know currently know of the universe there is no God. We have never found God, and by no means available to us have we ever found any evidence that he has existed. There is evidence of evolution andsuch here on Earth that screams there is no God, and still people such as yourself fail to take this in and completely ignore it.

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I think that when it comes to evolution there is room for a kind of tweaking for environmental reasons.

But I donâ??t buy the whole â?¦. once upon a time there was a great rock (forget about where the rock came from and lets not talk about what was there before the rock) and it exploded because of â?¦xyz. Anyway â?¦..here we stand today.

Belive me I know religion makes some hard to handle claims â?¦â?¦..But shit thatâ??s pretty hard to swallow tooâ?¦..lol.

And there is so much that science can not â??explainâ?� or show â??proofâ?� about that we come into contact with on a daily basisâ?¦..I think we are spiritual creatures for a reasonâ?¦.




I'm tired and I have to study......Goodnight.....peace~

I believe in vampires... Prove to me that my belief is unfounded, if you can't, I'll go right on believing it.

What do we come in contact with on a daily basis that science can neither explain or verify? (note daily basis) Just curious.