Emmies Grow Log - White Widow

LMAO :s3:
Now there's a guy who I bet is praying his heart out for more snow.

Just a quick thanks, I am learning a lot of great stuff. :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by emilya

A word about my screen. Notice that it angles up toward the back. I did this for a couple of reasons after seeing this done in a couple of professional SCRog grows. First was ease of working under the screen. If I sit on my cooler in the tent, I can easily reach under the screen and still easily see the top and what I am doing. Talk about SCRoging with ease! The second idea is this. The most active growing is at the top of the branches, which will tend to be at the top of the screen. The closer to the top they get, the closer to the light they also get. I am thinking that this will provide incentive for the plants to grow more rapidly at the tops. Later in flowering when the canopy is established, it will be an easy matter to tilt the light at this same angle and get to a 4" distance across the length of the screen.

I am sure that on the next grow when i have 4 plants under the screen this idea will not work and the screen will go back to a level 10" front and back, but for this grow I am going to experiment with this idea. Live and learn!

Thats all for now... I hope you are all having a wonderful week.
Here are some SCRog pictures!

Emmie

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I see your logic, but it won't work on a larger scale. Honestly it'll work just fine, but slightly misses the point.


When you bend a plant, the hormones start to distribute differently. (I'm not a botanist, but I've seen this to be true in experimentation. ;) )

So, bending them slightly but still leaving the main stem growing as the top is really no different than not bending them at all, they will continue to grow just with a slight deviation in course!


However, as I learned with my grafted plant, if you bend the "Top" to BELOW the apex of the stem (so the main stem is pointed back down with it's growing nodes) it stops acting like the top and the higher (vertically) up branches take over. (done it to 2 other plants in vege with same results ;) )

So if you bend your stalk so that new growth is parallel to the light and continue to train it that way, the hormones will distribute evenly amongst the branches and they ALL become tops!

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Originally Posted by canniwhatsis

I see your logic, but it won't work on a larger scale. Honestly it'll work just fine, but slightly misses the point.


When you bend a plant, the hormones start to distribute differently. (I'm not a botanist, but I've seen this to be true in experimentation. ;) )

So, bending them slightly but still leaving the main stem growing as the top is really no different than not bending them at all, they will continue to grow just with a slight deviation in course!


However, as I learned with my grafted plant, if you bend the "Top" to BELOW the apex of the stem (so the main stem is pointed back down with it's growing nodes) it stops acting like the top and the higher (vertically) up branches take over. (done it to 2 other plants in vege with same results ;) )

So if you bend your stalk so that new growth is parallel to the light and continue to train it that way, the hormones will distribute evenly amongst the branches and they ALL become tops!

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I am sensing a learning moment here! So, even after FIM'ing the girls, you make the point that by using a "relaxed" SCRog that I am missing out on the LST benefit that the horizontal SCRog screen would provide. hmmm. I see the logic of this too. So you are saying that a 60 degree bend is not nearly as effective as a 90 degree one would be. What's everyone think? Should I switch out the back supports and make this screen horizontal? It would be an easy matter to do this. Based on your experience already with SCRog Canni, I am ready to make this change yet today. I think the change in angle would instantly fill about 2% more of the screen too and would of course lower the light to the front of the screen where all the growing is going on. This morning I am watering, so the plants will be nice and supple later this afternoon with the added water. I will be monitoring the thread closely today to see what everyone thinks.

Lynhal, still working on a good picture of a node on #3. It is very strange what it is doing with these almost fang like calyx's. I will work a bit with the camera today now that I have some time available and see what I can come up with for you.

Emmie

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Originally Posted by canniwhatsis

When you bend a plant, the hormones start to distribute differently. (I'm not a botanist, but I've seen this to be true in experimentation. ;) )

So, bending them slightly but still leaving the main stem growing as the top is really no different than not bending them at all, they will continue to grow just with a slight deviation in course!


However, as I learned with my grafted plant, if you bend the "Top" to BELOW the apex of the stem (so the main stem is pointed back down with it's growing nodes) it stops acting like the top and the higher (vertically) up branches take over. (done it to 2 other plants in vege with same results ;) )

So if you bend your stalk so that new growth is parallel to the light and continue to train it that way, the hormones will distribute evenly amongst the branches and they ALL become tops!

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"Auxins are an important class of plant hormones, that have diverse and complex biological effects. By definition, a hormone is a compound that is made in one part of an organism, but has its affect in another part."
Auxins and Plant Growth

Auxins control the lateral branching. Bend the tallest meristem (growing tip) to below the level of a neighboring growing tip, and the higher one (vertically) will be the recipient of the plant's growth-focus. No clue how in the world the plant knows which is tallest...but it knows...:wtf:
The point is not to make a 60 or 90 degree bend, it's simply to tie the growing tip to below the level of it's neighbor.

Use care when moving the pot once tied-up.

[QUOTE=Originally Posted by canniwhatsis View Post
When you bend a plant, the hormones start to distribute differently. (I'm not a botanist, but I've seen this to be true in experimentation. )

So, bending them slightly but still leaving the main stem growing as the top is really no different than not bending them at all, they will continue to grow just with a slight deviation in course!


However, as I learned with my grafted plant, if you bend the "Top" to BELOW the apex of the stem (so the main stem is pointed back down with it's growing nodes) it stops acting like the top and the higher (vertically) up branches take over. (done it to 2 other plants in vege with same results )

So if you bend your stalk so that new growth is parallel to the light and continue to train it that way, the hormones will distribute evenly amongst the branches and they ALL become tops!.[/QUOTE]

this is a great bit of info as i plan to do the bend soon! thanks guys....
i did pop in to check out plants cool stuff brva rabbit.....

like this pic i suppose

hope you dont class this as thread jacking sori ppls

info 4 all

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Originally Posted by jaydee84

like this pic i suppose

hope you dont class this as thread jacking sori ppls

info 4 all

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no... its all good Jaydee... I am here to learn. And where that takes us no one knows... you might say that I bend to the opportunities that present themselves. :)

Rusty and Canni... very good as always. That makes perfect sense. I am eyeballing my PVC collection now for some shorter supports in the back. Once again, Emmie's assumptions give way to solid science. I am so very pleased that I have you all here to teach me!

Emmie

[QUOTE=Rusty and Canni... very good as always. [/QUOTE]

yep


sweet as.....a nut from the nuttiest nut tree let that be the nut for me hehehehe

dont ask lol!!

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