god is mind, awareness, and we are all god, and as such, we create evil both through our perceptions, and the perceptions of our actions.
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god is mind, awareness, and we are all god, and as such, we create evil both through our perceptions, and the perceptions of our actions.
That and that other people agree with him. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by rickytikki
you know what i love?
when people act like "typical christians" when attacking typical christians...
blows my mind...
another trippy thought (and forgive me, I have read none of this, but I felt my post fit the title). If the Bible is totally and completely true (not my belief but to each his own) then the idea of man's word being law in God's heaven and on earth or w/e means that all these people who commit atrocities in the name of God and Jesus, and all these rappers making obscene videos in the name of Jesus, does that mean that those deities are completely responsible for the actions or these miscreants? IS God responsible for the actions done in his name? Or is he only responsible for the ones that people considered "non heretics" and "holy" do? And how are we to know which is which.
The conclusion that "I" have come to is that IF God exists, then he is completely responsible for everything that happens on Earth, and he is one SADISTIC mother!
To get us to agree with him I guess, or just to express his opinion. I dunno I don't like him.Quote:
Originally Posted by rickytikki
Well i may seem blindingly strait forward just because God is real but noone wants to edjucate themselves about it therefore your just saying you dont believe when you put no effort into researching its existance...Ok you thought about it, wow you must be an expert, ok you went to church hahaha thats a joke, seriously if you take a few minutes to gain a grain of an educated thought process maybe you would lift just a tad out of ignorance, out of the mud I see everyone stuck in.
Theoretically those that argue for the non-existance of god are the same as those that argue that it is real. Saying its not real is the same as saying it is real, the only difference is there is a substancial amount of evidence that proves beyond a resonable doubt that it is real. Your just too lazy to look. Evil is a MUCH easier objective than the light of god, so i understand your ignorance and accept it as always. People like me are known as warriors of the light, can you see why? Its few versus many.
There is no proof, if there was all these christian conservatives would put it all over the news. You are calling me ignorant because you agree with something you can't prove...Quote:
Originally Posted by PureEvil760
Ah but there is proof, you will not find it in any religeon. Like I said even Jesus is against Christians.
lol you're really starting to make me laugh... like i said earlier i can admit i have what if thoughts sometimes.. :wtf: but you dude lmao... you're talking like you've actually met god and know without a doubt he is real....which isn't faith, but beligerent ignorance...Quote:
Originally Posted by PureEvil760
anyways,
so, educate us 'idiot' non believers then... show me this proof... if there is substantial proof he is real, then there should be no problem, showing proof...Quote:
the only difference is there is a substancial amount of evidence that proves beyond a resonable doubt that it is real
but there is a catch, words of man don't count... the only absolute proof, would be pictures or video that substantiate your claims. pure, undenyable, unadulterated, unexplainable happenings... not weird coincedences that happen and someone says it's a miracle either...
i didn't think of that, but i can also already see his response...Quote:
Originally Posted by rickytikki
"if you choose to not accept god then he is of course absent" or somethign along those lines...
the mind is a wonderful thing slipnot...
if you choose not to accept a thought, that thought is absent.
god is no being or deity, but the essence of consciousness/awareness/mind/and thought, in that sense, we are all god, and god is all that is.
as such, in general, god is what we think god is.
then again, i could just as easily be wrong, and god could be some random grain of sand deep under the earth in the Sahara desert :rolleyes:
but throughout all my research of different philosophies and religions, though not STUDYING them, just a glance, the only thing that makes logical sense is that all that exists is mind, and all that exists is an illusion of the mind, thusly the mind is god.
:smokin:
Word. Except I add on my own little beliefs.Quote:
Originally Posted by rickytikki
even i can agree with that... except if that's true, what's the point in christianity and other religions.. if everything is god, and there is no power deity... what's all the worship about?
just to see if my thinkings are accurate, SSW, do you not beleive in any typical religion? i'm just trying to understand your thought process a little more, it intrests me.
even tho i'm not christian and disbelieve the typical religions, i still do follow some parts of the bible, becuase they are good qualities in life, well soem of them.
mainly, do to others as you would have them do to you.. i fully believe in karma... do good out of the kindness of your heart, and eventually it will come back to you in a good way. do someone wrongly, and it too, will come back upon you.
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Originally Posted by slipknotpsycho
religion was started as a means to control the thoughts of others.
government was then reinforced to control their actions.
Free will is the only law. but good luck with that! :( ever since religion and government took hold, free will has been reduced more and more. D=<
Isa.45
[7] I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Prov.16
[4] The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.
Stay tuned. The Kingdom of God is COMING. We're taking over the new Earth. :hippy:
Its funny because it seems like the "believers" have looked for information all by themselves. Just because I work for the light doesnt mean I have to be nice. Erase everything you think you might know about God, its all false.
John 10:23-30 (KJV)
And Jesus walked in the temple in Solomon's porch. 24 Then came the Jews round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly. 25 Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me. 26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. 27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. 30 I and my Father are one.
verses? how trite.
You shouldn't neglect to erase all of those... they're false as well.
milk for the sheep and those without the teeth to chew.
Well they are worded much differently. Are you just following me flaming all my posts? Thats getting pretty "trite" also.
if you take out that objectionable word "god", it has far too many negative connotations, and eliminate the idea that there is a direction to this force; even i could find common ground with your concept. the major stumbling block for most schools of spiritual thought is that they tend to anthropomorphize that force, giving it their own face and goals. all natures have no aim but growth, whether spiritual or physical, and no end but eventual death and rebirth in another, usually totally unrelated, form. the very idea that such a force could have any desire at all is just another of man's many conceits. the desire for worship and conformity belongs to man alone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stoner Shadow Wolf
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Originally Posted by delusionsofNORMALity
i only use the word to familiarize people with what i speak of.
god is the same as awareness, consciousness, mind, thought, and idea.
well from my understanding... god created a angel and it was his best angel. But the angel become jealous of gods power and wanted to be more powerful than god and god punished the angel and sent him away and that when this angel turned into pure evil wanting to be the "better god" or whatever... The only thing I am lost about is why dosent god just destroy the evil a long time ago before sin ever started so none of us will suffer because if god can tell what the end of the world is going to be like in the bible must means he can see into the future then why would he have created the angel knowing that it was going to turn evil? which is one question I am lost about??? anyways thats all I kno comming from a christian point of view.....
stories concocted by man, by man with nary a shred of understanding of what god IS.
so naturally, god is portrayed as a person, or being, because truly, it is impossible to be better than the ALL of reality.
you are lost because you do not recognize god as the mind, the thoughts, the ideas of the universe, but as a being of immense power and knowledge.
the superconscious mind is the only semblance of this kind of a god, the collective minds of all.
the reason we do not is because we have free will, for we ALL are god, we from the ant to the rock, from the dog to the human being, are all god.
sin and evil exist so long as WE allow it to, and as you should know very well, two wrongs dont make a right, if we are to use evil to cast out evil, we only create more evil.
i tottaly agree i think god and the idea of heaven are for the weak ... it is something someone created to help them cope with the idea of death and lifeQuote:
Originally Posted by Matt the Funk
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Originally Posted by gabee42ee
i see your machismo point of view a sign of weakness. :hippy: live and let live, that's what i say :smokin:
yup. thats it.Quote:
Originally Posted by gabee42ee
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Originally Posted by Stoner Shadow Wolf
I see your self-superiority point of view as a sign of insecurity. :rasta:
i recently read a comic... a Spawn comic, he battles both god and the devil, this particular one saw the big fight, armageddon, everything on earth dead, spawn wipes out both the armies of god and the devil... leaving just them, they both kill spawn (for like the 4th time) and it is revealed that god and the devil are actually brothers, both immortal, both unlimited power, both hate each other with a vengeance, they end up fighting each other on a dead planet once known as earth (when i say dead i mean dead, not even a single blade of grass left)....
anyways, spawn is now a god himself at this point, he has control over a new earth (in which everything has been restored to the way it was, kinda like another dimension), aswell as heaven and hell thanks to the universal being known as "The Creator"...
thing is, everyone now being back alive still have the memories of what took place on armaggedon, there is now world peace, spawn then decides to destroy heaven and hell and also requests that he be made human again, which he is, right after he explains that "humans now control their own destiny, that it's time they grew up and learned how to get by themselves".
so now, without religion of any kind whatsoever, there is world peace and united harmony, very cool story imo, take from it what you will :D
Peace :hippy:
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Originally Posted by Polymirize
LOL i see all machismo as a sign of weakness :P also, i am superior to no one, i simply see that accusations are generally stemming from the self more than the accused.
if you see a lifestyle as weak, i believe it is an insecurity that your own is weaker.
also, have a random penis:
Jannet jacksons!
:wtf:
i didnt know she had one :D
edit:
oh yeah, and im not insecure about my beliefs, so that wouldnt apply :P
im insecure about my gender, and that's the only insecurity i am consciously aware or
HAHA, I literally laughed my ASS off when I read this rediculous drivel. Don't spit this bullshitout your mouth unless you want someones fist in it, cause you keep talkin to people like this your liable to get your ass beat to hell.Quote:
Originally Posted by PureEvil760
DAMN I'm baked :jointsmile:
You could try, Im trained in Kempo, Jujutsu, Aki-Jodo, self trained with nunchaukus, sword, and bo staff..and about 2 months in Tai Chi. Also i find that everyone seems trapped in mud to me, i can move and think much faster than others, so good luck.
Oh and maybe if you wer'nt blinded by your own ego you would have an idea of what I was talking about. If you said that to me in real life, you would be in the hospital right now.
TRAINING is one thing, however SKILL is another.
all around, one without the other is still pretty useless... but still better than someone with none of either!
also, i studied Shotokan (street fighter, Akuma, Dan, Ken, and Ryu) and Yoga (Dhalsim) so im über leet :D
LOL i also studied Ninjutsu (Naruto) :P
ooh ooh what else? hmm.... whatever fighting style mario and luigi have :P XD
oh and fei long, cant forget Street Fighter's Bruce Lee imitation! :P
heh im dooone... now i need training :P
Why? Because you'd beat him up for insulting your ego. hypocrite.Quote:
Originally Posted by PureEvil760
Is there anything sadder than someone who brags on an internet forum about how he's self trained in the nunchuku and a warrior of the light?
Hey I'm a warrior of the light too! Darkness got nothing on me.
what in the great blue fuck are you on about???Quote:
Originally Posted by PureEvil760
show me this evidence that proves God and the Devil are real??
scientific studies have waaaaaaay more evidence dis-proving God and the rest
fyi your full of bull poo... if you did really believe in god then evidence would'nt matter to you, you would get by on your faith alone.
I'm going to ignore for a second that this story is a complete lie about Einstein's beliefs...(even if it wasn't, what are the chances a fellow student would be there writing down every word they were saying?)Quote:
Originally Posted by PureEvil760
There is a big difference between not doing good things and actively doing evil things. It's one thing to not pull over and help someone with a flat tire. It's quite another to pull over, rape them, shoot them in the face, and steal their money before driving on. Einstein and his professor both made the mistake of failing to distinguish between amorality and immorality.
That being said, Einstein clearly did not believe in a personal god who concerned himself with things like human morality. Here are a couple of telling quotes from him (taken from Albert Einstein - Wikiquote):
??It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.?
??Nobody, certainly, will deny that the idea of the existence of an omnipotent, just, and omnibeneficent personal God is able to accord man solace, help, and guidance; also, by virtue of its simplicity it is accessible to the most undeveloped mind. But, on the other hand, there are decisive weaknesses attached to this idea in itself, which have been painfully felt since the beginning of history. That is, if this being is omnipotent, then every occurrence, including every human action, every human thought, and every human feeling and aspiration is also His work; how is it possible to think of holding men responsible for their deeds and thoughts before such an almighty Being? In giving out punishment and rewards He would to a certain extent be passing judgment on Himself. How can this be combined with the goodness and righteousness ascribed to Him? The main source of the present-day conflicts between the spheres of religion and of science lies in this concept of a personal God.?
A "personal God" is a different concept than what he was talking about to the professor.
bull poo yet again, i personally don't believe in god, he has no place in my life or in my heart, but i am not evil. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by PureEvil760
who let this zealot ON here? seriously, what the hell did he expect from a website like this? that we were going to bow to him, accept his god, and worship him for showing us the light? you are wasting your time puffing your spiritual feathers here