I don't wanna watch the video, i'll sign the petition though.
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I don't wanna watch the video, i'll sign the petition though.
i dont think its right for them to be killing dolphins in the first place, they're wonderful, smart creatures....
(i love the dolphin on seaquest:dsv lol)
but if they're gonna kill em to eat anyways...at least kill em quickly before they cut em up, y'know?
not sayin this to hijack, but its similar to what ppl do to catfish...while the fish is still alive and flailing, they peel its skin off w/pliers
that shit is cruel...
EDIT: i'm now going to sign the petition....slip was watching it and i'm lookin at the poor dolphins flailing in pain...that shits wrong and needs to be stopped... :mad:
Wow. Yall need to get a grip on reality.
Animals die every day. The indians used to chase buffalo off cliffs. My dad owned a slaughter house when I was younger that would see about 350 head of cattle per day. They are popped in the head with a metal rod and they hit the skids to the kill floor. Within 30 feet, they are headless and skinless and fixin to get sawed in half.
Don't be such liberal wusses, people. I have probably done some things that would make yall lose your lunch. Someone has to do it whether to control population or make some food.
And how else are you supposed to skin a fish? A deer? Your hamburger.
Don't be so hypocritical, this ain't candy land.
no it aint 'candyland' but you cannot justify this
you can't kill an animal with a flower and hopes and dreams.
I personally have drug a steer we were fixing to slaughter with a truck so we could hang it and skin it. Ever seen a steer attempt to jump a cattle guard? hehe. They don't usually make it.
Shot hogs point blank in a trailer before slaughter.
Im sure yall people have never actually killed anything yourself. Closest thing is probably using a can opener. All I ask is don't be so ignorant. It makes you look stupid.
And they get mad at us for cultivating a fuckin flower.
The shit is twisted. :mad:
There are better methods to supply and demand. Yes it's all turned to food but these people apparently have fun murdering and torturing these creatures.
They took the dolphins and cut thier main arteries and let them bleed to death dude.
Do you do that to pigs and steer? No, hell no.
look cunt just because your dead inside doesn't mean everyone else is i don't know what your trying to achieve hear because i eat meat myself and i accept that we have a right to kill animals to feed ourselves but only if it is done right i.e a quick kill were the animal hasn't suffered unnessecerelyQuote:
Originally Posted by ValkyrieAg
i don't need a fucking life lesson from you so take a look at the video and if you still think that killing those dolphins in that way is justified then thats the difference between me and you end of.
Seriously man. Why would you try to justify what they do to those dolphins? It's not a matter of whether you can kill or watch something being killed. There are principals involved here man.
Why must they kill so many? Population control???? Dude these dolphins are WILD ANIMALS! You don't start a massacre to control population.
So basically in your opinion, we should start offing people by the thousands by slicing thier jugular viens to simply control the population??
The pigs, chickens and cattle that are killed for people to eat are farm raised, monitored and properly proccessed. They are not inhumanely slaughtered by hand.
YOU are the one that needs to get a grip on reality dude.
I bet this guy's thinking, "they're going to die anyways"...
...Yea, well so are you.
Sorry but... that is wrotten, I could do that to their race with no mercy for such lethal actions, with no second thoughts or care.... karma's a bitch.. but what can we do about it besides that sign up form? nothing.. it might never change... If I was a president or something, that would be war worthy because I wouldn't want my own kind in that type of terror...
Really Valk thats pretty freaking cruel.
and i thout that iwas the one who had to point this out :PQuote:
Wow. Yall need to get a grip on reality.
okay its sad to watch an animal writhing in pain as it dies, but no one is making you do it!! dont go searching the internet for stuff like this and you will be fine ;)
okay me too, but i classify cruelty as: causing pain to a living being for no reason whatesover other than to see its reaction to the pain or to have fun casuing the pain (eg: shooting at moving targets or knife throwing) thta is curelty not when people are catching animals to feed humans!!Quote:
me and a couple of mates feel very strongly about animal cruelty
thtas ridiculous i mean if some asshole decided to ban killing cows because he things it looks unsightly and i cant get myself a bigmac i would fucking screw.
your being bloody chidlish and stupid!!
For fuks sake!!
I go fishing and the sight is the same as the one in the dolphin video exept the damn fish are smaller why is it that because this fish is a bit bigger than the pike i catch and it deserves all this attention, its bullshit!
Okay and also i thing eating a dog wouldnt be a thing i chose to do but if the chinese want to eat dogs they shoudl eat dogs.
Dont see them saying things like: those fucking british how can they kill all those chickens!!!
okay i now that i have calmed down, i can say i do agree with you!! :D
they are killing them in horrible ways, i am pretty sure they can come up with a scheme to kill them less painfully, but than again you must think about the man making money from the meat, how much money is he going to lose by training his workers to kill painlessly or installing the required tevchnology :S
in other words forget it mate!
its a pointless cause.
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if you do get down there to protest bring me back some dolphin meat i bet that shit tastes GoooooD! :thumbsup:
what the crap? who moved this into activism?
I'de just like to point out that a Dolphin is not a fish.
It's a mammal...
And in fact, no it's not really a pointless cause...If you understood better the cause and actual point you may agree a little more. It's understood that in order to eat a living thing it must be killed first. That's not the point. The point is the PRINCIPALS of the issue at hand.
The methods they use to kill and proccess thier "delicacy" are completely inhumane. Where is the intuitiveness humans are supposed to be so full of?
It just proves once more that some species of human aren't much smarter than thier own meals...
hmmm i see...
see i already said that:Quote:
The methods they use to kill and proccess thier "delicacy" are completely inhumane. Where is the intuitiveness humans are supposed to be so full of?
see so i do see what you are saying about it being really painful and all that but for it to be less painful the big man at the top is going ot be losing money, and what big man at the top wants to lose money :D ?Quote:
they are killing them in horrible ways, i am pretty sure they can come up with a scheme to kill them less painfully, but than again you must think about the man making money from the meat, how much money is he going to lose by training his workers to kill painlessly or installing the required tevchnology
there now you are thinking along the lines of what i am saying, we are just animals in a big world, i mean there were probably days where we coudlnt even take on dolphins or we where hunted by lions and such but now that we have evolved enough to pawn the world for tasty meat i think we should :DQuote:
It just proves once more that some species of human aren't much smarter than thier own meals...
lol damn im too high for this lol...
killing an animal is almost on the same level as killing a human if not the same, the worse thing about killing an animal is that they cannot speak to distress their anguish, pain and suffering, also they are defenseless in the hands of men, one day man will understand that they must not take the job of god into their own hands and let nature take it's course. Anyone who harms or kills an innocent animal should burn in hell!
what the hell!!?Quote:
killing an animal is almost on the same level as killing a human if not the same, the worse thing about killing an animal is that they cannot speak to distress their anguish, pain and suffering, also they are defenseless in the hands of men, one day man will understand that they must not take the job of god into their own hands and let nature take it's course. Anyone who harms or kills an innocent animal should burn in hell!
they are not playing god they are killing to survive !!! (well not reall but still)
they are simply killing a living creature for food,
i aint sure but i reckon the dolphin eats meat, like many other mammals (lol)
and yes of course it is on the same level as killing a human, the only time killing a human is wrong is if it is another human killing another human.
but diffferent species killing each other is how nature works...
so it is nature's course if oyu see what i mean....
Yeah... too bad we fuck it up and whipe out entire speicies... nor do animals need to be tortured to death.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZeldaG.
AAHHHH! again with the politics! Whoever said "ya'll liberals" or whatever makes any southerners look fucking stupid.
I am a southern Republican. Fuck slowly killing animals. Can I slowly kill your animals? "THEY NEEDS KILLIN! hyuck hyuck!!!"
People should be aloud to hunt and fish, but I think that goes a little beyond what is necessary. Hunting for fur is bullshit too i.e. China killing dogs for fur. This aint 1760. I mean, fuck, thats all their country does is sew, lol cmon, get some clothes from wallmart
This pisses me off to no end. I cannot believe this. What gives us, even as the top predators of the world, the right to kill animals for these reasons? You say that there are too many in the shelter, so that is why they are killing them? Humans are overpopulated. Why don't they have the right to reproduce like us too? If I saw one of these fucks, I would probably end up killing them. If not, then they'd be very close to dead, in intensive care, on a respirator, struggling for life. Yes, I'd rather have them suffer for long periods of time, rather than die. I hate humans like this. Why does anyone even work there with the cruelty that is happening? Don't any of those faggots have any morality or ethics? Nobody has quit because of this moral issue? Fuck them. I think there's only one thing to do, and that would be to rescue all the animals there, put them some place else, and burn that place down. I'd rather be arrested for arson than let this go on. It's criminal action which will put this criminal action to rest. Burn that place up. Don't just burn it, blow it up.
No shooting in the head, no gassing, no slicing throats, no suffocation, no burning. How do you humanely and painlessly end another living beings life?
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Originally Posted by Jimmicrackedcorn
i on psp browser i rite more l8er
Wow I lost track of this thread!
Just because I was brought up where you eat what you kill, whether it be dove, pig, deer, beef, fish whatever. People can go out, eat fried chicken, and never think twice. They are dead and someone earns a paycheck by slaughtering them. And when I mean slaughter I mean slaughter, thats what the term is. Its called a slaughterhouse.
Its pretty senseless when they catch dolphins and sharks in nets, kill em and toss them overboard. Thats what should be stopped.
But whatever, I'm sure yall think that tuna comes from a can. Think about a butcher....he does this all day long....*wow* he must be a sadistic fuck killing all those animals.
Circle of life, people.
how dare you fucking question the maral issues here you idiot, i swear you sound so childish:Quote:
Don't any of those faggots have any morality or ethics? Nobody has quit because of this moral issue?
How can that man go and kill the big fish mommy!?
Why doesnt he just find a new job?
bloody idiot, i bet most of them hardly have a choice probably working under lower wage to kill those dolphins but that doesnt become so much of a bloody moral issue when the only other choice is to not afford food for his own bloody family.
Come on you got to proieper use common sense people i am sure you will see that your talking crap.
No body is arguing with where the food comes from dude. We are all aware of thise. How many times do you have to be told?Quote:
Originally Posted by ValkyrieAg
It's the inhumane methods they use to execute the creatures that are being disputed...
Does it matter how we kill them? Well, absolutely. The whole idea of being human is that we are smarter than any other creature on this planet, right?
Ok well in todays advanced world TIME IS MONEY. So wouldn't a SMART human know that the faster you proccess your product the more efficient the whole proccess would become?
By slicing thier main arteries and letting them bleed to death is inhumane simply because of the fact that it is not smart in any way shape or form.
"Oh the poor bastards can't afford other methods to proccess the animals..."
So you mean to tell me that they can't afford a larger blade and a chopping block to simply end the creatures life in one shot by decapitating the animal instead of slowly cutting its main arteries, letting it bleed to death and further more making it suffer, slowly?????
If time is money wouldn't you want to make sure that product is packaged and put on those shelves as fast as possible? So what are they waiting around for? Why are they watching these creatures convulse and flop around while bleeding to death until they die?????
If money is the issue, shit, get rid of a few employees and bring in some better machines. Or get rid of that truck with the big bed on the back of it that never gets used because they choose to DRAG the product to the location where they'll slice it's main arteries and continuously waste time AND MONEY...
No, I'm sorry, but logically this is EXTREMELY unacceptable from a human beings point of view. And if you are ok with thier methods and logic then you ARE a sadistic fuck.
you got my vote. but where do you draw the line on what not to bucher? I am a meat eater. im sure the pig farm down the road is just as sick. so you ask why am i giving my signature? dolfins are just so cute :p
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Originally Posted by doodly
Well...Everyone has thier reasons.
It's not about what not to butcher. It's about how to intelligently "butcher" that creature.
The way they are killing those dolphins is just simply not intelligent. Not in any business sense or other wise humane sensibility fashion.
im sure the dolphins died alot quicker death from slitting their throat versus being left tangled in a net until dead, but that may of made the video look so much better to people, as they wouldnt have to see them die.
even if they decapitated them would a headless dolphin still flipping its tail make the video look any better.
My opinion? Of course not.Quote:
Originally Posted by bejay
It's not going to be a pleasent sight no matter which way you look at it.
But we're relying on common sense to initiate some intuitive thinking here. After all, human beings are the most advanced creatures on this planet. Shouldn't we act like it?
Picture it as if you owned a dolphin fishing company. How would you operate, even under low funding?
Basically my arguement is different from most. I'm not saying don't kill the dolphins. If that is what they like to eat, by all means, they have the God given right. But on that same level you should respect that right.
Maybe they don't have to kill so many if they can properly proccess them faster...
At any rate something should be done. These people are taking dolphins right out of thier migratory routes by the THOUSANDS and pointlessly killing some of them and leaving them to rot in the ocean. They take so many at one time in thier nets that they can't proccess them all in one day. So the ones that die in the nets are left to float out into the ocean. This information was not given to you in the video. I did other research on it.
No matter which way you look at it that is not right. It's unnatural...
You're all part of the "Save The Whales" foundation