Our Continuous Harvest...more bud every 10 days!

Awsome thread guys, and some nice plants. I did a little experiment of myself before harvesting the top colas of my Afghanis.
I stuck the three in a closet to control dark period. 2 of them got 15 hours of dark(I slept in), and the other 36 hours. Then I took the top colas and put them back in the room to finish up the bottoms, tomorrow I'll take the bottoms using the same dark period for each plant.
So far we noticed that the plant left in the dark smokes a little nicer and is a little more potent, but she was the better plant to begin with, so hopefully the bottom harvest is a little more equals seeing as how they were all shaded.

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Originally Posted by dutch.lover

I will totally post a pic of Hog next time it's harvested...it will be awhile unfortunately, I think at least a month. We have a lot of champagne coming up tho. I know that's what you were growing, and I laughed when I read you said it smelled like bananas...but then our last plant smelt really weird when it was drying, so then I realized smelling like bananas wasn't so strange after all, lol.

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lol GREAT! champagne sounds good too :) haha yeh, it did just smell like fresh bananas... unfortunately im not all that pleased with the HOG, its meant to yeild big, greasy buds... but it never seems to... ill try a few outdoors this summer.. see how things go eh?

this may be a stupid question... but does anyone have any diagrams of a cannabis plants vein/arterie structure... i need to know how the blood is pumping before i experiment with lateral branches and such...:)

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So far we noticed that the plant left in the dark smokes a little nicer and is a little more potent, but she was the better plant to begin with, so hopefully the bottom harvest is a little more equals seeing as how they were all shaded

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this would make sense... light degrades THC, so therefore the more dark... the more potent...:)

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Originally Posted by Abattoir Dream

i was thinking... if every lateral branch minus the top 4 were removed... would it focus all energy on the main cola..? maybe not.. i guess the leaves at the top can only take in a certain amount of light... what if every lateral branch (other than the main cola) were to be removed, but all fan leaves where left on... would the plant produce a boulder of a top cola??? i wonder if anyone has looked into this?!? maybe someone has some useful notes floating around?

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not only have i some useful notes on the topic, i've the experience to boot.

if all lat branches are removed (except four, you hit the nail on the head) the plant will flower a main cola, and that's all. the result is a cola bud up to twice the size of those that were left natural.

at the same time, i've some multi-topped plants that put out hundreds of popcorn buds totalling up to a qp, so the top yeild prize goes to the giant wiry freaks...

hahaha great, should i be removing the fan leaves along with the lat's? or just leave them? (lol excuse the pun) sounds like something new to try...:)

as for multi topping, whats your method? when i top its from 4th-5th node, how many nodes do you leave between topping when you 'multi-top'..?
also, how long do you leave them to vegg from the last topping to the first day of 12/12?

im really interested in all these ideas...:) any more info would be much appreciated...:)

lol sorry for hi-jacking the thread harris7 and dutch lover, though surely your keen to find out these things too? - good luck guys ;)

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Originally Posted by Abattoir Dream

this would make sense... light degrades THC, so therefore the more dark... the more potent...:)

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I think it's more of a stress the plant out and it tries to produce extra resin to protect itself.

don't worry about hijacking, this thread was meant for discussion...

checked the trichomes on Mud Bud yesterday....they're about 20% amber, 20% clear and 60% cloudy....gonna wait a while longer before cutting her down...

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Originally Posted by Scarlet Sky

not only have i some useful notes on the topic, i've the experience to boot.

if all lat branches are removed (except four, you hit the nail on the head) the plant will flower a main cola, and that's all. the result is a cola bud up to twice the size of those that were left natural.

at the same time, i've some multi-topped plants that put out hundreds of popcorn buds totalling up to a qp, so the top yeild prize goes to the giant wiry freaks...

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This is basically the technique you could use for a SOG grow. Sea of Green. A bunch of plants...lots of them...all pruned to yield a single LARGE cola each. I have yet to see a good example of that on here. Maybe I've seen it a long time ago.

I'm curious to see if there are any grows that utilize that method. Most people confuse SCROG with SOG, but they are not the same. Unfortunately, in some places, so I hear...you'd be much better off doing a SCROG due to the number of plants used...if ya know what I mean. :o

Anyone got a good pic of a SOG grow of am I gonna have to find it myself? :D


The Fog :rastasmoke:

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I think it's more of a stress the plant out and it tries to produce extra resin to protect itself.

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lol, when i said light degrades THC i meant AFTER the plant is cut... thats what i thought you meant... obviously now after re-reading your post i know different, darkness produces the flowering hormone in a plant, making more bud... whether its any more potent i dont know... its doubtfull though...

if you extend dark periods you have to extend the whole grow, its simple, i think i also heard the buds have more leaves if grown under more dark hours...

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Originally Posted by Abattoir Dream

lol, when i said light degrades THC i meant AFTER the plant is cut... thats what i thought you meant... obviously now after re-reading your post i know different, darkness produces the flowering hormone in a plant, making more bud... whether its any more potent i dont know... its doubtfull though...

if you extend dark periods you have to extend the whole grow, its simple, i think i also heard the buds have more leaves if grown under more dark hours...

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For all oil bearing herbs the oil amount peeks after the dark period.
So the idea is that if we extend the dark period weâ??ll get the amount to peek higher.

Iâ??ve read it so many places and in quite a few books that I believe it

thought i'd post some pics of various plants.

Yummy

your setup is something i would dream about :rastasmoke:

our setup will be even sweeter in september. gonna move into a house, and expand things a little. now that we have gone through setting up a growspace and whatnot, we know what to do to improve it. it's allllll trial and error.

Also, going to expand our strains soon, and pick up some that are specific to my grandmother's arthritis needs: that's right, she is asking her specialist about getting her medical card! I am going to supply her :D

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For all oil bearing herbs the oil amount peeks after the dark period.
So the idea is that if we extend the dark period we’ll get the amount to peek higher.

I’ve read it so many places and in quite a few books that I believe it

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well then, all is good! :) heres something to try... cut the tips of every leaf on the plant, (other than resinous trim leaves) put it into darkness overnight, and compare the amount of resin to what it was before... you will be surprised ;) i did it yesturday, and today she looks frosty :) - good luck...

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Also, going to expand our strains soon, and pick up some that are specific to my grandmother's arthritis needs: that's right, she is asking her specialist about getting her medical card! I am going to supply her

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two words, Matanuska Tundra... a whole load of people have said its good for relieving 'pain ailments' it tastes a bit like chocolate and has VERY dense buds... believe me, you'll want this strain :)

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So weâ??ve played around with a few LST techniques.

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Here is the one we use the most, itâ??s easy to do. Only takes 2 rounds of tying.

Little explanation
Pic 1: over all pic

Pic 2: so we top the plant, sometimes take a clone, to promote axial growth

Pic 3: then we bend the main stem over to get the light to the side shoots and let em grow nice and big

Pic 4: then we take the large side shoots and tie each one out to the sides.


This last one really spreads out the canopy allowing light to get to the lower leafs and so that each shoot isnâ??t competing with the others.

In pic 3 I numbered two of the ties we do

The one of the right centers the plant over the pot. (kinda hard to see)

Sometimes, if we remember, weâ??ll plant the clone right against one side of the pot so once itâ??s bent it is nicely centered over the pot and doesnâ??t crowed other plants.

Iâ??ll post some pics of real plants next

YEa, i will post the pictures tonight i'm a busy fellow

We also dont always top the plant. The difficulty is to make sure the terminal growth tip dosn't dominate, so you have to keep it tied quite low.

check out third pic in post #51 for an example

you can see in the last pic how the plant can start to crowd the others

and the pics

Totally looks great. When I LST'd last time I pulled my plants more into an S shape. It allowed the bottom shoots of the S get ahead so by the time it came back overtop the canopy was pretty even. They were bushy though. By the time they fully bushed out they were squeezed into the room. They all came out pretty nicely.

Yes, one of my plants I pulled into an S shape too. That one I did not top.

Harris7, I like the diagrams.

:jointsmile: Bree

that looks like good LST'ing ;)

i had a question, mostly for scarlet, that never got answered... its important too... so here it is..

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as for multi topping, whats your method? when i top its from 4th-5th node, how many nodes do you leave between topping when you 'multi-top'..?
also, how long do you leave them to vegg from the last topping to the first day of 12/12?

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thnx alot...

me and my frickin double posing:thumbsup:

Chop,

Pics to come in 5 days

oh, anyone have any suggestions on products to buy that will help boost our yield. I'm goin to stop by the grow store soon.

I like that training method- it's identical to the one I use on my mothers to get lots of cloneable growing tips- works well. Nice job.

CRAP I can't rep either of you...
Screw spreading rep round blah blah, you deserve it... fuck.

As much as that debacle with my white rhino herms pissed me off, the finished product from the remaining plant was the most numbing, painkilling strain I've come across. And MTF is very nice... one of you pm me contact info, willya, so we can chat offline?

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Originally Posted by harris7

We also dont always top the plant. The difficulty is to make sure the terminal growth tip dosn't dominate, so you have to keep it tied quite low.

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I know exactly what you mean with that one and I like doing both as well. That main stem will dominate no matter how low you get it.

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Originally Posted by Abattoir Dream

that looks like good LST'ing ;)

i had a question, mostly for scarlet, that never got answered... its important too... so here it is..



thnx alot...

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Right now I have two northerns that were topped once at the 4th node, and the other two I topped at 4th node then topped those at 3-4 nodes, I was going to see which one I prefered a few more weeks into flower when the become a little more crowded, but I am very tempted to to multitop them all because they are so stickish.

well done man

ahem. and woman.

You say you want to increase your yeild, give me some examples of you yeild and what you're using for nutes, I need something the ponder.

on average, between 1/2 and 3/4 of an ounce per plant. The plants are usually a foot and a half tall when they're in flowering. Nutes: Advanced Nutrients Grow, Micro, Bloom; Floralicious from general hydro (bloom booster); vitamax from grotek; growth excel (AN); and Sweet (flavor booster). Also use fish emulsion every now and then to boost soil bacteria, and we usually mix worm castings into the soil when we transplant them.

This is what I think the problem is: not enuff airflow in the room which leads to fluffy buds and weak stems (which discourages bud growth). I also think we should start using molasses in flowering. I was talking to my experienced grower friend and he is a huge fan of FIM-ing, so I think I will read up on that. Any other techniques or suggestions would be awesome!!!

ps: we are moving into a house in the summer, so we are going to improve our grow area. Upgrade to 600 or 1000w's, and get better fans.

So this is one of the other LST techniques we use.
Personally I prefer this one, but that might only be because this plant looks so nice and it is the first weâ??ve done it to.

So you top the plants very young, 4th node at most. Then the few side shoots it has grow out nice and bid (see pic 4)

Then you re-pot the plant right against the side of a larger pot.

Once the side shoots are long enough you strech them out and tie them around the pot.

This tech. doesnâ??t have one main stem like the other but instead has 3-4 branching steams and produces 3-4 middle sized colas and a few small buds.



Pic 1 â?? entire plant (leaf burn from proximity to light)
Pic 2 - you can kinda see how it branches
3- side pic
4- a little guy we have going who is being prepped for this tech
5- a wonderfully artistic rendition of the technique (the dark circle is were the stem meets soil)


harris

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As much as that debacle with my white rhino herms pissed me off, the finished product from the remaining plant was the most numbing, painkilling strain I've come across. And MTF is very nice... one of you pm me contact info, willya, so we can chat offline?

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and how does one PM? i thought we wern't allowed


I'm thinking about buying the product overdrive by A.N. to boost yield
Overdrive | Advanced Nutrients | Budding and Harvest Stimulator

any thoughts?

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Originally Posted by harris7

and how does one PM? i thought we wern't allowed

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by leaving a message in reputation

i'll just go spread some rep around

So i've made another thread to discuss our nutrient options,

please check it out and comment here or there

http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-gr...ml#post1337973

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Originally Posted by dutch.lover

on average, between 1/2 and 3/4 of an ounce per plant. The plants are usually a foot and a half tall when they're in flowering. Nutes: Advanced Nutrients Grow, Micro, Bloom; Floralicious from general hydro (bloom booster); vitamax from grotek; growth excel (AN); and Sweet (flavor booster). Also use fish emulsion every now and then to boost soil bacteria, and we usually mix worm castings into the soil when we transplant them.

This is what I think the problem is: not enuff airflow in the room which leads to fluffy buds and weak stems (which discourages bud growth). I also think we should start using molasses in flowering. I was talking to my experienced grower friend and he is a huge fan of FIM-ing, so I think I will read up on that. Any other techniques or suggestions would be awesome!!!

ps: we are moving into a house in the summer, so we are going to improve our grow area. Upgrade to 600 or 1000w's, and get better fans.

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I used advanced nutes 3 par, carbo load, cal/mg, and big bud. My smallest northern finshe 1.75 feet tall and gave me 2.5 oz, with 7 plants sharing a 400w.

ok well that's about the same height of plants, same wattage, and same # of plants under the same light. we don't have the same nutes as you though, although we just picked up Bud Blood by AN yesterday and are going to pick up Big Bud as soon as we can find a decent sized one.