Foxysox is back in the game!!! =p

Well, after reading bluebear's coocoo for coco thread (Bear - I totally respect your skills! :D) I am sold on the stuff. I am going to try it out and see how awesome it is. I got the good stuff... pre-leached, lower salt content than some schwaggy coco.
Obviously I'll be putting clones in it, but I did an experiment Saturday night (that's what the popular girls do on saturday nights... stay home repotting their houseplants, lol) to see how well my little mothers would enjoy being re-homed.
I started with 2 females, a Yeag's MTF and a Rushman's Toxic Lemon, chosen because they are tough plants, and the Yeag's MTF totally needed to be repotted anyway as it had been in that soil for like 6 months and a couple leaves were showing scorch.
So I tried a couple ways to get as much dirt off as I could.
The MTF got soaked in tepid water, rinsed, soaked, rinsed, until the soil was mostly washed away.
The Tox Lemon just got shaken over the rubbish until the soil fell off.
When they went into the new pots and medium, I spread the roots out and also tilted them sideways for future training.
As of this morning, neither is showing any signs of transplant shock at ALL. I am very surprised because I was a little rough with them.
So here's some pics..
1- MTF needs repotting pretty badly
2- MTF soaking
3-MTF root ball all wet
4-Tox L root ball, dry/shaken
5-MTF in her new home

What a mess!
I could plant grass in my kitchen, there's so much dirt on everything!
Pics!
1- I got these little waste baskets at walmart for $1.50 each. I drilled holes into the edges of the corners, and on the sides too. That's the drill bit for the job. It's just a 1/2" paddle bit.
2- Breaking up coco bales SUCKS. Glad I have hefty forks. Not like the ones that your future in-laws give you as a housewarming present when you move in with your fiancee who they don't like... you know... where the knife bends when you try to cut with it? Even with a fork it took FOREVER.
3- AWWWWW aren't they cute? Seriously, see how happy everyone looks now compared to the first pics. That's just like a week of better temps, a MH250, and some PureBlend Pro Grow (organic, yummy! The fert smells almost good enough to drink!)
After seeing that the transplant took, I will be putting ALL my mother stock in coco.

Oh! I also started 2 white rhino x papaya beans in rapid-rooters, just for shits and giggles, to see if they are as awesome for seeds as they are for clones. I turned the plugs upside down and made slits with a razor, and just planted the seed directly in there, pointy end down, and put them in a baggie on the ballast. That was the 24th.

yeah , the little throw helped immensley. I swear in the two days or so since i added it ive seen more happen than in the previous 8 days. But what about suspending their growth. Just water?

What do you mean, suspending their growth? Like suspended animation? Urr? Why?
I just water mine with plain tap water. No problems!

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Headache...Fix is Menudo, or some Pho, i doubt you can get either of those where you are.

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Another OW morning... damn you, jaegermeister!
Actually you CAN get pho around here... just not very good... I was a total pho junkie when I was working in Alaska.
My fave fix for a bad hangover is Indian food, the spicier the better. I just had a big plate of chickpea stew and chicken curry. Feelin' better already!!!

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What do you mean, suspending their growth? Like suspended animation? Urr? Why?

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took 'em too early.

ooooh.
Once they are done rooting you can put them somewhere with cooler temps and lower light intensity so they don't get too big for ya.

Or maybe just grow tem big enuf to get a clone off of each one? then reclone again?

I dont need them again until 3-25 (current crop wll be driend and ready to start flowering again.)or so. Last time (current grow) it took them like 3 weeks to really start doing anything. The temps were alot colder. Now, its a lil warmer and they are growing too fast. Maybe i should try and grow like 6 out and get clones off of them.

You need to build a little veg area for the babies! Even just with CFLs, F'real.

i have a little one. But i just don't want to veg. I let my last one go veg too long and now i'm poaying the price. I want to veg only like 5 days or so. Tonight i'll take some pics so you can see the crowdation in the hut.

i have endless 4" flouros

Back to old tricks...heheheh

Cool. Looking to getting caught up on the messages (and grow log) here.

"Let's talk dirty in Hawaiian"

Shovelhead

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Back to old tricks...heheheh

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You know it, Shov! :D

Well, everything went smoothly last night retrieving the remainder of my moms.
It was snowing and dark - great weather to sneak plants around without being hassled.

Here's some pics-

1- The condition of a plant that has been somewhat neglected in a 50 degree cellar for 6 weeks. It is showing signs of salt buildup, fungus, and new growth is really stunted from the cold. It's a SmashBerry female. Not the toughest strain I've ever worked with anyway, but she should pull through with a repotting, a flush with serenade, and a new home.
2- There they are! All the happy girls! There's a couple males in the back too that were too valuable IMO to kill when I bailed.
3- My temporary flower corner. HAHAHAHA no making fun of me!!! Yes, thats a MH400. My 'real' lights should be coming home this week. Those 7 plants consist of 2 Bogglegum, 2 Black Indica, a Yeag's MTF, a smashberry, and a Hindu kush. One of the bogglegums isn't sexed yet actually.
4- I still need to do some cleaning, lol. And yes, that IS a kilt in the upper left hanging off that shelf. Foxy's a proud Scot.

So today is officially day 1 of flower, starting this morning at 8am when the plants started their first dark period. Most of those strains are exceptionally fast finishers, because SOMEONE is a bit impatient when it comes to her gardening.

I'm going to repot them into coco in a week or so when they are recovered a little more from the shock of a new environment.

Another update is that from the new moms, I have enough viable shoots to do a clone run this weekend... we'll see if it happens... my man is coming into town and something tells me I'm not going to be doing much of anything that can be discussed in polite company, lol.

ROTFL! "Yeag's MTF is my bitch now!"

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ROTFL! "Yeag's MTF is my bitch now!"

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Stinky taught me. :D
Knew you'd get a kick outta that, eh!
http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-loun...bondage-p.html

Good to see those plants back in warmer temps...

Good to see you B.SOX fans around in a log format again...

I plan to try smash berry soon as well.

kd

Believe me, the plants are the happiest of all!
Only 48 hours and they are perking right up.

Update, my rapid-rooter + bottom heat + seeds experiment is going fine, thanx; one little W Rhino x is poking it's little head up so far.

Let's see, that makes...shit, like 60 hours. Holy crap! That's the fastest I've seen anything break dirt, EVER, and that would be even AFTER pre-soaking, and these beans were NOT pre-soaked, they went RIGHT into the plugs dry.

Woot WOOt, maybe they'll show the same vigor when budding!!!

Hey there woman.

Word Dusto! I certainly hope so.
That cross should be interesting.
The white rhino DID seem to be a reasonably vigorous plant, and according to my somewhat sloppy at the time notes, the cross should have been a papaya male who had a touch of resin to him, and I expect a VERY solid product out of the mix.

Yeah UGU really has his shit together.
I think that the Nirvana Papaya mango knockoff is one of the best deals on seeds around.
I was told by my local peeps when they were over for a wine 'n' weed tasting recently that I should focus exclusively on growing papaya production stylee, because it had the best flavor of anything they had smoked.
But of course that's not my game; I like ot mix things up, and anyway they have never tasted the SAGE, lol. Or the BOG bogglegum. Both standouts.

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BOG bogglegum

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like whitney Houston said


"im waiting to Exhale"

Ahahahh, sometime i crack myself up...

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like whitney Houston said..."im waiting to Exhale"...Ahahahh, sometime i crack myself up...

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Oh holy shit dusto you are killin' em this morning.

Oh yeah... crack is wack :S3:

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Oh holy shit dusto you are killin' em this morning.

Oh yeah... crack is wack :S3:

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holy shit, the other day i ran out of boxers and was working on this car and toatlly forgot, and there were customers waling around and shit...Ya know, sometimes them pants are saggin...some said full moon, but i was like solar eclipse!!!!

is that you shakin your little tuch at me or what...

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is that you shakin your little tuch at me or what...

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naw... my tucas would break your monitor...

holy shit, my stomach hurts.

Okay today is SERIOUS DAY.... there will be no mirth, no hilarity, and NO SNICKERING!!!

Actually... forget it... I could use some cheering up... the sox game was less than thrilling last night... a tie (I hate preseason games, WTF!!! What's the point if there's no LOSER!!!) with the Twins, with their skinny, young new pitcher... up against Schilling... should have gone much better... the only good thing I noticed is that Big Papi is lookin' hotter than a tamale this season. BEEEEEEEEFCAKE!!! :D

Anyway no pics, but an update.
-W Rhino x... 3/4 have emerged from the rapidrooters... they went under a CFL this morning and lost their little mini greenhouse (ziploc bag)
-Looked through my plants again and found 2 of unknown sex, a Sweet Tooth and the most vigorous of my Afghan x BOG seedlings, which has grown into a good looking plant, so those went to be sexed this morning. That makes 3 unknowns, because there was that bogglegum too.

-The remaining mother stock is:

2 BOG unknowns
1 Yeag's MTF
2 SmashBerry
1 Sweet Tooth
1 Toxic Lemon
1 Hindu Kush
1 Bogglegum
1 Chocolate Chunk

So I am down to my goal of 12 or fewer mothers, and I'll be adding a couple strains and getting the duplicates into flower soon.

I also have males of:

BlueMoonRocks
Black Indica
Toxic Lemon

Those are just hanging out until I have more time/space/funds to build a breeding cabinet.

Of the clones, the first to show a full mop of roots was the Yeag's MTF, with a BOG unknown coming in second, but still not nearly as vigorous. Those got potted up in coco in 3 1/2" square deep pots, new ones, not salvaged ones like I've used in the past... no more freaking bugs, dammit.

In other news...
I removed the CO2 yeast thing.. whatever.. it just smelled too narsty.
I also moved the heated clone dome back to my pantry, and got the ballast out of the closet, as temps around here have been springlike and my house isn't colder than an igloo with the door open anymore. The temps in the closet got into the mid 80s. Fine now though. That little MH250 throws VERY little heat.
Growth on most of my mother stock is looking really good. There are a couple individuals though who are showing classic symptoms of salt tox and will have their roots washed and get repotted in coco probably tonight. I was just waiting to see if the other 2 took it well, and for the new arrivals to acclimate a bit.
Oddly the worst affected are the 2 Smashberry plants. While I LOVE the flavor of the final product, they seem to want a little more attention than your average indoor plant, and dislike the sort of abuse I've been heaping on them.

you get preseason games? That sucks. I can't afford the cables or anything like that. What to do, what to do???

Anyhow, I enjoyed reading your update, Foxy

Go Sox!

"Saladmaster!" (banging pots together...)

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you get preseason games? That sucks. I can't afford the cables or anything like that. ....

"Saladmaster!" (banging pots together...)

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Naw I don't have cable, I have to go out to the bars... I'm lucky enough to live near a cool indoor country club/sports bar where they have golf simulators and all that good shit. And drinks are still pretty cheap. And they don't mind if you order take-out from somewhere else!

Saladmaster????

lol Childhood memory...Boston
WBZ TV spnsor of the early morning shows way back in the 50s and 60s. Top quality cookware they would demonstrate how tough it was by having a chef bang two pots together, the Saladmaster pot would cave the living shit outta the "other" pots and pans. <G>

tough day...

Shovelmaster

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lol Childhood memory...Boston
WBZ TV spnsor of the early morning shows way back in the 50s and 60s.

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AAAAH I get it!!! lol
Hope your evening is relaxing anyway!!!
:D
Spend some time with the little woman... smoke some bubblegum... get outta the work boots.... dream about the spring!!!!
Awww, yeah.

Update... all 4 W Rhino x seedlings are doing fine... roots already poking out of plug... no signs of nute problems... will use rapidrooters for seeds from now on.

Took another ~20 clones from my girlies... some from the first batch are lagging behind but most are ready; I've got 2 pot-roasters anyway so it is not a big deal... I think I'll get in the habit of taking some cuts every week.

I'm expecting a package from Canada in the mail today... mmmm.... BOG SourBubble BX3... thx kd...you rock. Those will be getting popped this week. That strain is a total FREAK of crazy flavor and frost, bred from a pheno of Bogglegum, which I already work with, and which is no slouch! It clones easily too, bonus.

I feel like shit this morning...uuuuuuggghhhh my peeps and I put a hurtin on a couple bottles of shiraz last night.... I got to try out some other local homegrown too... WOW... ima go crawl under my desk and take a nap.

foxy, i need your help...

http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-loun...ml#post1291852

also some details in the women's war... hey, do you have stinky's email? i bet she would know...

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foxy, i need your help...
http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-loun...ml#post1291852
also some details in the women's war... hey, do you have stinky's email? i bet she would know...

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tracking.... tracking... yeah I'll send her over there, lol =p

Hey, foxy. How's things?

I demand more pictures! At once! :D


Hope things are well. Looks like they are, but I gotta see for sure! :D


The Fog :rastasmoke:

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Hey, foxy. How's things?
I demand more pictures! At once! :D

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Geez, okay, okay!!!
Pics for our favorite f[r]oggy.
Here's a 'what not to do' pic!!!
This girlie has survived 6 weeks in a 50 degree cellar, been overwatered by her plantsitter, also underwatered, is suffering major lockouts as well, and is rootbound as all get-out.
She's a ~6 month old Plan B Smashberry that has been chopped for clones 4 times and not repotted since, oh, October of 2006.
So last night she got a good flushing and will be given a new home this weekend- if she shows signs of recovery, she'll be flowered next month.
This strain takes poorly to abuse and I would not recommend it for a nOOb. Other plants in my garden that have been subjected to the same treatment are still looking pretty good, considering.
In other news... my BOG SourBubble BX3 arrived safely... beautifully packaged by a clever fellow grower... I moistened the beans this morning, just 4 of them, directly into rapidrooters. The test I did with the White Rhino X went fine (lost one that decided to grow INTO the middle of the CFL, damn I need to get my T5 fixture back, lol!) and the remaining 3 seedliings are now in coco.

Wow, that's one jacked up plant. I'm sure you'll bring her back, though. :)

Thanks for the pic, albeit grainy and bright as hell. ;)


Just goes to show how much abuse they can take, though. :thumbsup:


Your sig made me LOL. Ha.


The Fog :rastasmoke:

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Wow, that's one jacked up plant. I'm sure you'll bring her back, though.:

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Ugh I'm not even sure if I want to bother... I have clones off her... she might get culled as a waste of space.

Updates,
I started 4 Bogglegum x BlueJay (BGG X BJ) and 4 BlueMoonRocks x ??? (BMR X)-accidental pollination, not many seeds, like 8 on the whole plant, but suspect it was blown onto that plant when I did my Papaya F2 cross... oops!
It should be good either way, as both are strong plants with very solid growth characteristics, flavorful, and strong.

In the flower room, things are looking nice. I'm not to the cottonball buds stage yet, but pistil production is picking up! I've got MH400 + HPS400 lighting a space that is only 2x3 feet... will be changed this weekend when I replace the bulb on my HPS1000 but for now, whatever; it's still early in the game.

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A peace offering to the f[r]og... some fresh pics:
-My 2 'pot-roaster' clone setup, that cycles weekly, 20 cuttings a week, giving each group 14 days to grow good roots... they root well enough in that time that I have not had any humidity shock taking them out from under the domes, even without slow acclimation as is typically good practice
-here's where they go after!! It's only temporary... I lent my t5 to a friend... buying a new one Monday, maybe the *sigh* 4-footer!!!
-a closeup of the plant that is about to get culled. I'm really leaning towards root-rot on this one, on top of all the other shit... there's no hope for it really in this case, as the plant is already so stressed! Moral of this story, you got a strain you love, keep 2 mothers! It's all good, she's backed up by several clones.
-this is how I'm starting seeds to go into coco, 4 at a time, in rapidrooters, in a tupperware, then in a labelled baggie, set on top of a ballast that runs 24/0 for constant, gentle heat.
-here's their next home, 3" pots in a bed of coco fibre. I know those CFLs suck!! hush up!!! I'm redoing the grow room this coming week.