It does sound fishy.
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It does sound fishy.
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Originally Posted by GraziLovesMary
Almost as fishy as hearing that cannabis grows wild in alaska...specificly in the valley...that is some funny shit....funny but imposible. marijuana can be grown outdoors in ak but perlite is found mixed in with the soil. last time i checked mother nature could not do that on her own:jointsmile:
I wanted to post up some pics of a Kenai version of the MTF that was a gift from my man.
This is a great plant and takes a shitload of abuse.
I got 1/2" roots in 6 days on a set of clones taken in early flower off the big girl in the pic
The 2nd pic is a bunch of perky cuts almost ready to plant out
3rd pic is a small Yeag's MTF that I am growing diagonally- the ridiculously tight internodes make topping kind of a pain because the side shoots result in an overly-dense bush, so going diagonal or even sideways is a good fix
4th pic is the big flowering female, about 2-3 weeks in. She has VERY stiff branches and will not need help holding up her buds.
Note the damage to some lower leaves- that is left over from a bout with coco fibre problems that actually killed a couple plants outright. This girl can take some serious shit. It makes me wonder whether Alaskans are a bit more sadistic than other gardeners...
Doctor Greenthumb has gotten good reviews for some of his strains but I would think twice about trying his Matanuska Thunderfuck. I ordered a pack of seeds and for one they took a month to get to me. Then after trying to germinate the seeds for 2 weeks, only 2 of them germinated. I wrote to Doc about it and he said send the seeds back and heā??ll replace them. I thought it was odd that he wanted the bad seeds but I sent them back to him. I waited a month and no replacements came. I wrote to Doc again and he claimed that he didnā??t get the seeds so Iā??m screwed. So Iā??m out $240. Iā??ll never order from Doc again and instead Iā??ll try Sagā??s Matanuska Tundra. Itā??s a lot cheaper and has gotten good reviews. :thumbsup:
Well Goalllly Ana,
Ma father always use to say, "You can give a poacher an egg, but it's better when it's fried."
I'd be opening myself a can of real Texan whip-ass on the doctors brown eye in an effort to turn it Blue.
I've had too many patients complaining to me lately about the exact same thing. Most common ailments are:
- I never received anything
- I ordered an indica strain and recieved a sativa of sorts
- They arrived crushed, and he doesn't wanna replace them
- They grew like sick dogs
- They yielded less than a hemp plant, with about as much potency too.
So the only cure I could provide them and you Ana, is to order from places like Doc.Chronic, PlanetSkunk, Hemcy, and for the lesser well healed, Nirvana Direct.
If symptoms persist, let me know.
...after the break, we have a scyitzohypocondriak with a bad bout of diahrea that's making thier hemeroids sizzle after they made a purchase at Dr.Greenthumbs in Canada...stay tuned...
Thanks Dr. Phil, I wish I would have heard of these bad reports before I ordered from Doc Greenthumb. I read a few good reviews and thought he was a good place to order seeds from. I noticed no other seed bank carries Docā??s seeds and that makes me think itā??s because heā??s a bad guy to deal with.
I agree with you about Doc Chronic, Iā??ve ordered seeds from many times and always gotten excellent service. Iā??ve heard good things about Hemcy and PlanetSkunk too.
bubba kush is 300 for 10 seeds from the dr.
Hi guys,
Just to let you know, Anastasia is a good friend of mine and is making a legidimate complaint. It's not someome who has an old beef with the doc over another matter and it's not someone from another seedbank trolling. Fact is Anastasia was a very well known and highly respected member of the Overgrow community but went under another name there that they prefer not to openly mention for security purposes pertaining to the OG bust.
I was the one who suggest she try the Doc and am now left feeling like an idiot for doing so. Doubly so given the fact that I have researched into the true MTF even further since suggesting it to her and now realise that the one the Doc has is about as close to the original MTF as Afghani#1 or Sk#1 is. It can't be the real thing becasue of the aroma/bouquet that the Doc describes.
Wikipedia are a mob that employs the services of highly trained staff and peronel in doing thorough research into anything they incude in the contents. For them to incude anything in their 'encyclodediac' content it has been proven to be 100% reliable and truthful before they will deem it worthy of publishing.
They has an entry in it recarding the legendary MTF cannabis strain which I've found out they interviewed and spoke to hundreds of old time cannabis growers and smokers of high status in the Alaskan and surrounding regions. They also found university archived 'Botanical papers' on tests that were conducted on the true original clone over 3 decades ago by Horticultural departments of universities in that region. Using all the information they gathered over a 2 year period the extrapulated and wrote a page on this fabled strain that can now be found on their homepage:
Matanuska tundra - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The give away regarding the authenticity of this strain is in its' aroma/taste. It has a rich CHOCOLATE flavour. Anything else is NOT the real McCoy.
DocG describes his as being "Sweet, grassy" and reminiscent of old Lumbo weed in taste. The is NO CHOCOLATE tasting Columbian strain in existance. Thai, yes, but not Lumbo. So the Doc has himself been given the royale shaft in obtaining the wrong strain, or is himself selling it under false pretences if he already knows it's not the real thing but soemthing other smokers have built up on over time via forums and other mediums. He says it is more potent than SourDiesel, but I know of MANY other strains that are also. SD is a current Fad, it's not a true HIGH OCTANE strain. The proof is always in the pudding; SourDiesel HAS CEILING...sorry guys.
Also, the true MTF was 100% indica, not sativa Dom. It was the type of indica that exhibited sativa-like thin single bladed leafs in the latter stage of flower. Many other pure indicas do that too. This obviously confused soem into believing it was a sativa DOm or pure strain. So off they went in search of a false holy grail. Their belief in it was so real that they found it even though they didn't.
Another very important TRUE point to note in Wiki is how the TRUE MTF and Tundra require at least ONE frosting outdoors to activate their resins potential to it's maximum. This I have also found to be true with other genepools originating from very cold lands like Ruder strains and others. Sensi's RuderalisIndica has double the potency when grown in this manner, as do others of similar ilk. Which also accounts for why some who have grown the Tundra say it has a good level of potency while other say it's the most potent srtain they've ever had. The latter being growers who grow in short-summer cold climates. Indoors under lights this level of potency CANNOT be obtained unless your growroom's over night temp can approach zero degrees Celcius in the last week or two of flowering.
So what others have today that they claim is MTF is basically a figment of 'their or anothers' imagination or downright deceitful if all they're after is bucks.
So if it's the real MTF you're after, only Saga have it, but to bring out its' best in warm or hot enviroments is near impossible because of the lack of frosts one needs in latter flowering to do so.
But fair warning to anyone wishing to deal with the doc in future regarding any of his strains. It seems the years have condemned.
Hi BagO,
How goes it mate? Anastasia was the friend I told you that was going to seed DrG's MTF out and send us some kerns of it when they were done. She got done it badly with them which now means that we all lose. I can't understand why he's dropped his game so much? Phuck him, his lose more than Ana's because over time Ana would have bought all his top strains off him to do one at a time. Him'z a Fooo Boi, Fooo I tellz yaz.:rastasmoke:
unlokit, I found out he got his OGKush directly from RezDog and just seeded it out to sell. Rez gave his 10 for free, than this is what he did with them. Rez ripped into him about it and Doc replied that he'd be lowering the price...he never did. Rez use to sell it for less than that... you figure, but I'd say it be Greed driven no doubt.
Cheers:)
Nice to see Alaska represented and other people who know better than to fall for claims of Matanuska Thunderfuck seeds. I don't know anyone up here that's smoked or seen of the stuff in 15 years.
Plenty of good relatives float around from time to time though.
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Originally Posted by Jadian21
I am looking at some right now..:jointsmile: I just finished transplanting a plant outside in a moose proof flower box. I also just threw a 35lb. king salmon skeleton and guts in a mulch pile....that will make some good soil:jointsmile:
Nice plant and nice fish then, you lucky bastard. I absolutely would have found my own plants to do this summer if I knew what was gonna happen to the economy up here.
Oh well, guess I'm stuck waiting until I leave for the winter.
Did you find that local, Yeag?
This "version" of OG Kush has been widely bashed on other boards too as being bogus also. Doc admitted this too..Quote:
Originally Posted by FrankWills
I bought matanuska thunderfuck seeds from drchronic.com,
apollo 11 x matanuska thunderfuck
and
matanuska thunderfuck x lowryder ...
that british guy is totally bullshit doesnt sell the original mt genetics
beware!
whole vid of da matanuska thunderfuck plant:
YouTube - Matanuska Thunderfuck - Clone 3 weeks Outdoor 1992
Hi everyone!!!!
I just thought I'd drop by and see if there's any update on your situation Anastasia?? Did you ever get your seeds replaced by the Doc? If so, have you grown them out? What do you think of the replacements?
I hope you did get them replaced, let us know how you went.:)
i ordered my seeds from drgreenthumb and 9 of the 10 germinated and sprouted. im going to start a grow journel of my matanuska thunderfucks once i buy a digital camera.
Hello Dr. Phil,Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr.Phil
Yes, I did get some replacement seeds. I just started germinating them a couple of weeks ago and 8 of them are growing so far. Iā??m looking forward to growing them out and I canā??t wait to smoke some. :smokin:
Peace
hey anastasia i was wondering if you could maybe take some pictures of your plants and start a grow log. im going to start a grow log for my plants who are about a month maybe a little less old. i would love to compare notes. what kind of light you have them under what kind of nutrient strentgh all those things would be greatly appreciated. anyone else who has grown mtf from dr greenthumb if you could post pics that would also be awesome.
Sure no problem. Right now there isnā??t much to report. I ended up with 5 seedlings that are growing well. Theyā??re around 3 inches tall right now. I just harvested 2 MTF plants that I had growing from the first batch of seeds I had and Iā??ll be trying them as soon as theyā??re dry. Iā??ll let you know how the high is. :jointsmile:Quote:
Originally Posted by romdog11
sweet thanks for the post anastasia! i cant wait to hear how they smoke. i have 2 flowering right now and a few in vegging. i keep reading on the icmag.com/ic forums how good mtf is. they say its a trippy very psychedelic high. very sativa like. i hope you enjoy it ill have some pics posted very soon!
Iā??ve been smoking MTF for a few days now and I would say itā??s one of the best strains Iā??ve tried. I didnā??t find it trippy like some did on icmag forums. I thought the high was nicely balanced between head and body. The strain yields well and finishes in 60 days. It would be a good choice for a commercial strain. Itā??s hard to find strains that yield well, finish in 60 days, and has a balanced high. Most of the 60 days strains are more body than head. So I would say MTF is an excellent choice for anyone wanting a strain with a balanced high.
Iā??m also trying Sagarmathaā??s Matanuska Tundra and Seedmanā??s Ata Tundra and Iā??ll be able to compare all the Tundra strains in a few months. :jointsmile:
sounds great anastasia im glad everything worked out for you. i have some mtf about 3 weeks into flower so i cant wait till they are ready for some smoke reports.
Just put mine into flower last weekend........CAN'T WAIT!
Have a good grow!:thumbsup:
Lookin sick, p4b. And 'sick' in a GOOD way.
woo hoo some pics those look awesome. on the ic mag forum they say this stuff is really trippy but you have to find the right pheno type. one guy said he has seen 2 distinct phenotypes. one that takes a little longer to initially flower (which is the keeper and the trippy one) and an indica leaning phenotype which isnt as trippy. from what ive seen out of my 2 plants im flowering one did take a while to show its pre flowers. a little over 2 weeks. i didnt clone it so im thinking darn but i was to anxious to smoke them.
ps im interested to see how these would smoke compared to the mtf you currently have stinky.
romdog, the Kenai line I'm running is creeper/painkilling/long lasting/strong and one of the phenos tastes like wild grapes.
I've done several outcrosses using it and have been VERY happy with all.
Count me in!
Today I've returned 2 of Rushmans Toxic Lemon x MVTF to their rightful place under a KW!
I must say, the internode spacing is RIDICULOUS...something like 10 solid "6-"8 shoots per foot of height. I think Stinky's got the idea to combine some of the qualities of more advanced strains, with the structure and vigor of the MTF. My very first attempt at any breeding will be a Rhinofuck x Skunk #1...I cant wait:D
p4b: Lookin' good buddy:thumbsup:
Those look amazingly similar to mine, which one are you runnin'?
I'm using bags for them as well.
Another thing I wanted to point out is that this line seems like it would make for a pretty tough outdoor commercial grow.
I'm interested to see how fast it finishes because that Toxic Lemon isn't a New England outdoor strain by ANY stretch; both people locally to whom I gave cuts to test reported that while it was outrageously vigorous, it didn't look like it would be done before frost. Then... they reported they got ripped off. DAMN DAMN DAMN those thieves.
if any of you are interested i have a grow log of dr green thumbs mtf's on ic mag here
International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums - Dr Greenthumbs Matanuska Thunder****
check it out if you want.
Whats up romdog? Ever get any molasses into that bitch?...I bet it'll fatten her up nicely! Post a pic or two over here?
In Oregon we are growing a strain called Matanuska Valley Thunder Fuck. I just moved some into bud... now I am very interested to have a taste... :jointsmile:
i have some pics of my plants but i dont know how to load pics on this forum. could anyone help me out?
If their on your computor just go to the bottom of the page when ya post.....find "Manage Attachments". Click on that and it'll allow you to access your pic files.
Have a good grow!:jointsmile:
ok well i hope this works here are a few pics of my main mtf that is 3 weeks into flower. its on a diet of botanicares cns17 bloom at 2.0 ec once a week. not much resin production as of yet but ill post more pics as they progress. the plant is around 34 inches tall and was flowered at a height of 9 inches.
This will make a GREAT point of comparison. My babies are just going into their third week. I put them into flower at 12 inches...my other strain was already at 19 so I had little choice. Now they vary from 19" to 32" in height, all ladies.:thumbsup:
The bud production looks the same by the way.......
Have a good grow!:jointsmile:
hey psycho did you get your seeds from dr greenthumb? if you did have you tried any of his other strains?
Romdog, you need more light!!!!
Plus the MTF I work with- the Yeag's gorgeous Kenai one- is very squat and even under low light will not stretch like that and become leggy. I've grown her under flouros and flowered under HPS- the flouros are just shop lights and she doesn't stretch, period. Demeter runs the same one and reports as well that internode spacing is SHORT.
I got my seed from a "very special" source. Haven't done much with the Dr. ......always had to good of luck from Amsterdam Seed.Quote:
Originally Posted by romdog11
Have a good grow!:jointsmile:
stinky. how many flouros are you using. I'm about to clone for the first time will be vegging (i hope at least) under 2 4ft shop lights - 80 watts total.