Okay, this is my appology

I have always seen the point you are trying to make. I understand that some people have issues and they need help.

But seeing above, you were defending this little kid whos smoking pot behind his mommys back while he plays with his xbox360. (read his posts)

Just because you say you are gonna commit suicide doesn't mean that you are. Do you *really* think this little kid is so bent up that he is going to post on an internet chat board that he is about to kill himself. Thats just fuckin stupid and here you are defending him like he is some suicidal mental patient that needs help.

You wouldn't get my pipe wrench. Judging from your posts and your general left wing hippy posts, I wouldn't be surprised if you have never even seen a pipe wrench before.

And conservatives don't run.

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Originally Posted by Billionfold

Since everyone else is obviously stuck up, I'll be your friend.

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End of story. If you want to defend kids stupid decisions, thats your own deal.

He doesn't need HELP. Its an attention ploy. He needs a kick in the ass. Period.

Being a conservative doesn't mean I am a Gdub supporter. Being conservative is a way of life. For example, when kids act up, they need to get whipped when daddy gets home. Being a left wing weenee, when kids act up, they get talked to and sent to get 'help'.

BTW, i like your little google'd pipe wrench. Thats alot different than your fairy's wand.

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Originally Posted by surreys princess

suicide and suicidal thoughts are just selfish...get some counseling...

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Suicidal thoughts are selfish to who? The person contemplating it or their friends and family?

Hey Guy!
I've never had any dealings with you 1st hand,but you sound as if your an intelligent fella! If you can figure things out on your own! Then there is no reason not to carry on! I have had 3 member of my family ranging in age,23,26,41 commit suicide.Gunshot,hanging and drug overdose! This is not something you are able to come back from! None of these family members were able to talk to anyone about what they intended to do! I WISH they would have!!!!! They would still be here today! Your sooooo young not to give life a chance! I can honestly tell you that if you can count the friends on 1 hand and still have fingers left for more,then you honestly have true friends! It's true when they say you can have too many friends! But,to have 2 or 3 true friends,is a God Send! You would not believe what kind of Hurt you would leave behind! I just ask you to take the time to talk to the few you have!! Even talk to your mom! That's the 1 you are gonna CRUSH! Mama's love their babies! Just Talk to anyone! You have so much to be thankful for!!!!!! What you should be most THANKFUL for is...... LIFE!


Ga Grown!

Good post, but it falls on deaf ears. He is probably playing his xbox and smoking a joint having a good ole time.

If it's any concelation, i dont think you've ever annoyed me, or not that i can think of... although im sured i've annoyed you rofl... i have anoyed most people on these boards..

Look on the bright side of things...

If you kill yourself no more weed... That's the number one most important reason not to do anything like that.

Weed keeps this world spinning, and if you smoke enough, you'll be spinning too.... enjoy it.

I've been away for a week, and this is an interesting thread. I wonder what the boy who originally posted thinks? I'd like to hear from him again.

When I was 28, my friend blew her brains out. Her funeral was the saddest thing I've ever experienced. I think that is probably what sp meant by selfish. Even though in the midst of self-loathing we think no one else cares, many people actually do - and killing oneself critically wounds them.
I know how you feel; I felt that way when I was your age. It isn't as uncommon as you think. But you do need some help to get through it. Is there an adult you are willing to talk with?

High school is insane. Real life isn't that way. As an adult, I wouldn't have time for a lot of friends- I have a few great ones and that is all anyone really needs. You will find true friends when you find yourself. Until then, you need to talk to someone who can help you.

Let me know how you are doing-

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Originally Posted by l3loody

okay, i know that ppl on here dont really like me...and i know it doesnt really matter. but today, i realized that i pretty much dont have any friends at my school, and i am apparently annoying. i have no clue why and niether does anybody else...so..they say "ur annoying" and i ask why and they dont tell me why...im kind of thinking about killing myself, and im not saying this for attention, so please dont think i am. i really dont know wut to do. i really want friends, and i dont have many and i dont think ill get very many. so i wanna say im sorry for annoying anybody on these forums for talking about my mom too much or anything like that. i also realized that i will go nowhere in life because my grades are bad. i get d's and f's in highschool, and its my junior year. im 17 years old. i hate my life so much, and i know that i will nvr become wealthy or anything of that sort. i wont have a good job, a pretty wife (or any for that matter) and i wont have kids to continue my gene pool. so....im screwd for life and theres no sense in living any longer just to find out my predictions were true.

sorry again, bye

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Many people walk on this earth lonely. We all had thoughts that we want to die, but really you are just overwhelmed. You aren't believing in yourself. If you think you won't get a good job, or a pretty wife, you won't, because you already made it clear to yourself you can't. Don't do this to yourself man. Don't self-inflict harm on your confidence.

We all have a point in life where everything is a dark cloud, you can't see the light. Suffering is all around us, while you are lonely, there are others who are the same. We all have our problems, don't allow yourself to drown in them.

Be positive. End this cycle of negative thinking. Seek the things you enjoy and love and most of all, love and believe in yourself.

Well if he was looking for friends he found them here... If he was looking for sympathy he also found that...

He needs to come back and thank everyone here that has shown compassion...

FUCK SUICIDE!!! if your even thinking about that shit... your parents should of worn a fucking condom... i hate people who think about inflicting harm opn them selfs... yea, sure, i have a few self-inflicted wounds on my body...

but, i live in a small town, so one persons death preaty much affects everyone...

a few years ago, a young beautiful(i mean she was fucking hot, and damn near every guy would have done anything to be with her... and even the homophobic girls would have loved to go out with her) anyways, she was dumped by her boyfriend, she absolutly loved this guy with all of her heart, and she wanted to marry this guy... anyways, she was dumped, she was 17 years old, all A's and B's threw out middle school and high school, she was on the soft ball team, and the basketball team, and she was one of the top 5 girls for our team... anyways, she had a good looking life, and her boyfriend dumped her, she was already on anti-depresents, her parents left to go to a bigger city to get food and what ever cheaper, anyways, her boyfriend dumped her while they were gone, and she broke into the gun cabbint that she had built in shop class(i guess she was a fucking good in the shop class, and the pictures i saw right after she had finished the prodgect was just beautiful) and she took out her dads 12 gauge sawed off shot gun, and stuck it in her throat, and blew the back of her skull out...

now this girl affected everyones life... my girl, even knows who im talking about just by saying the words "she" ''her'' ''boyfriend'' and "suicde", and my girl dosent even go to the damn highschool... nor did she know the girl or her family all that well... it brought damn near the entire town to tears... there were guys crying that you will never see a shead a tear, until there mom dies...

anyways... just kick it with the other annoying kids... its what the other annoying kids do... or just learn how to not try to immpress people by arguing, or doing stupid shit..

and dont fucking kill your self...

yeah, i dont know how some of u can act the way u do. u dont care about others...u dont believe me that im having a horrible time in my life and i just hate it so much...but for the ppl that tried to help me, thanks, and the ppl who were trying to be assholes, i hope u get whats coming to u. whether its good or bad. i guess i understand that u dont want to believe that im having a bad time in highschool, but i dont really care. i just want to get it over with. i still dont know wut im going to do, but i might just give myself a month and if things dont start to shapen up, then ill off myself. whether u guys beleive me or not. the reason i tell u guys these things is becasue i told u...i have no real friends. so dont think im just "chatting with internet ppl to get sypathy" or w/e u think. i just dont have friends that would care about it and i have nobody to go to for it.

bye

Happiness is a state of mind... you must learn to love yourself then it spreads,,,trust me...

Don't kill yourself. Try to graduate man. Most people fucking suck anyways, you have always seemed somewhat cool to me. I hate pretty much everyone I know even though most people like me. Nothing wrong with oyu, it's just other people. Also, suicide is not a good option. When I have clarity in my mind I realize how stupid it is. Life is beautiful. Try to stay alive as long as you can. And try to cheer up.

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yeah, i dont know how some of u can act the way u do. u dont care about others...u dont believe me that im having a horrible time in my life and i just hate it so much...but for the ppl that tried to help me, thanks, and the ppl who were trying to be assholes, i hope u get whats coming to u. whether its good or bad. i guess i understand that u dont want to believe that im having a bad time in highschool, but i dont really care. i just want to get it over with. i still dont know wut im going to do, but i might just give myself a month and if things dont start to shapen up, then ill off myself. whether u guys beleive me or not. the reason i tell u guys these things is becasue i told u...i have no real friends. so dont think im just "chatting with internet ppl to get sypathy" or w/e u think. i just dont have friends that would care about it and i have nobody to go to for it.

bye

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now what good will killing yourself do?
ive questioned my existence many times

my advice, find someone or something to love,
i found someone and something to love, they are the reason why i breathe and wake up in the morning, if you cant find someone to love, just love cannabis,,,, a pet, even loving something that cant love you back is worth it because youll find yourself in a state of awe, love is a wonderful thing, find it

Dude, you need to pick yourself up and take a long walk, a really long one. A walk till you can walk no more and then stop, and think.

If a person were to live for 70 years:

A month would be .01% yes....1/10th of a single 1 percent of your life.

Do you really think thats enough time for things to get better?

I like you.

You have to ask yourself what you can do for you too, don't expect something for nothing.
Give it your best shot and see where it takes you.

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yeah, i dont know how some of u can act the way u do. u dont care about others...u dont believe me that im having a horrible time in my life and i just hate it so much...but for the ppl that tried to help me, thanks, and the ppl who were trying to be assholes, i hope u get whats coming to u. whether its good or bad. i guess i understand that u dont want to believe that im having a bad time in highschool, but i dont really care. i just want to get it over with. i still dont know wut im going to do, but i might just give myself a month and if things dont start to shapen up, then ill off myself. whether u guys beleive me or not. the reason i tell u guys these things is becasue i told u...i have no real friends. so dont think im just "chatting with internet ppl to get sypathy" or w/e u think. i just dont have friends that would care about it and i have nobody to go to for it.

bye

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are yoou being bullied or beaten up everyday?

UMM...im looked down on by almost every body in my grade and seniors....and i know they talk about me, becuase when i walk by, they just snicker my name...i just wish i could shoot them assholes, because i dont do anything to deserve ppl to treat me like shit.

hold your head up high, no one can touch you if you use your self confidence as a protector, just stop thinking about them, it will pass

revenge is sweet, just dont do anything stupid

read my post about loving yourself... self confidence will allow you to see how petty these people are...

smoke a bleeze and chill dude.

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UMM...im looked down on by almost every body in my grade and seniors....and i know they talk about me, becuase when i walk by, they just snicker my name...i just wish i could shoot them assholes, because i dont do anything to deserve ppl to treat me like shit.

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If they are talking about you behind your back,then just think????? They are leaving someone else alone!!!!! So...... I see you as a protector of others! In my book your some type of super hero! You keep protecting us,Dawg!

Ga Grown!

I think most teenagers go throught this point in life. Even the popular ones go through this stuff. I know I did. When I hit high school, I had moved away from a small town of 1600 people, in a school with 300 kids. I moved to a bigger city, with 80,000 people, and 1500 kids. I knew not one person and I got it rough. I didn't speak much english and kids mocked me about our wooden shoes we wore in Holland, and we were a "dirty"c ounty due to loose laws. Sure, it bothered me at the time, but high school is nothing man, fuck them. Focus of graduating, shwoing half those losers who will probably drop out, that you're better than them.

Popularity means nothing. You're in school to learn and get out there on you're own. I say, screw those kids, and if they mock say, tell them off. Give them a piece of your mind, in sensible words, and you night be surprised on how they react. Taking in all of the abuse witll build and build, until you snap.

That's what happened with me anyways, so don't fight! Love, not war. :D

Confidence comes in a .38 caliber.

Take Charge of your life, about a year ago i was in ....'s crew i was one of ....'s friends, i decided i wasnt going to be .....'s friend it was going to be josh and his m8 and its happend, i am now the clear leader of my groupe of friends and i know alllllot more people now that would do things for me out of respect. i know it may sound like i am trying to big myself up but its true if you are not a little bitch and actually stand up for yourself, speak up for yourself and dont take shit from anyone you will be respected and people like being with someone they respect.

basically get yourself respected and friends will come to you

l3loody my friend there are times when we are all down in the dumps its how we come out of it that defines us and make us stronger.
to solve a problem first you have to admit that you have a problem.
You seem to have done that.
If so called friends seem to be making fun of you & they say nasty hings to you , why do you want them to be your friends.
with friends like them who needs enemies.
coming out off this will make you stronger & maybe one day you will be able to give advice to someone thats needs it and you can says that you know what you are talking about.
it's up to you to get out of the downs that you are feeling now.
keep yourself busy. go out join a club,get a hobby do something apart from sitting there on your own.
You know that you are selling yourself short you know that you amount to something otherwise you would not be feeling like this.
For others to help you, you have to start by helping yourself.

As for suicide no mate thats not the way about it.
I said earlier your life is worth more than that.
take heed there are people who have been in worse situations than you described in fact what you described is part of adolescence.
Talk to people that you fell confident with take it from there it's a start.
I wish you the best of fortune.

I say don't try to fit in with your fellow high schoolers. They're probably not worth your time. Just stick it out until college (and try to get your grades up to at least a C and above) and then you can start having real, meaningful friends that are actually cool.

High school is shit.

dude, its never to late to change. and suicide just makes you a pussy who cant deal with life. try, talking to someone, or change the way you act.

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Originally Posted by surreys princess

suicide and suicidal thoughts are just selfish...get some counseling...

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I disagree.

I think its selfish to keep people when they don't want to be.

Just my opinion.

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I disagree.

I think its selfish to keep people when they don't want to be.

Just my opinion.

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I never thought of it that way but,,,You are just talking about a certain situation,,,Right???

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I never thought of it that way but,,,You are just talking about a certain situation,,,Right???

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no man.

Sure I'd be sad if someone I knew commited suicide, but when it all comes down to it, its their choice. And I don't find it selfish at all. If someone wants to die, I talk to them about it sure, but I will not try to stop them (like telling parents, calling police, etc).

Saying "you can't go" is selfish to me.

okay, well..i took my anger into my own hands and hopefully now ppl will stop messing with me. this morning i went into school with problems cause my parents yelling at me....and i was minding my own buisness and this kid joe calls me a faggot. hes in my study hall and always talked shit on me. so this was my chance to get back at him. i walked up to him and punched him in his nose/eye area and broke his nose (i felt it crack)after that he stood there holding his nose. thats when i hit him as hard as i possibly could on his chin and he just fell to the ground and i didnt see him move for about 30-40sec. i think my knuckles broken too..but i didnt go to the doctors yet. his friend jumped in to help him (freakin idiot) i punched him in the gut as hard as i could and then joe was still laying on the ground as i walked up to the side of him and got down and started nailing him in the face and stomach. i must have had about 1 1/2 min to woop his a$$. ppl like him deserve this and i dont feel sorry at all for him. hopefully this will show ppl that im no a defensless kid that has no friends and cant stick up for himself. thanks for telling me to stick up for myself sometimes.

Excellent.

Next time someone gets in your face or talks enough shit to warrant an asswhoopin', say "Thats it, get ready, Im gonna whip your ass."

Get to swingin'....even if you don't win, its still a moral victory. Don't take anyones bullshit, you don't have to.

My brother didnt have many friends hjis whole life... then he reached college. He was like the life of the party. Don't worry man things will clear up give it time.

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okay, well..i took my anger into my own hands and hopefully now ppl will stop messing with me. this morning i went into school with problems cause my parents yelling at me....and i was minding my own buisness and this kid joe calls me a faggot. hes in my study hall and always talked shit on me. so this was my chance to get back at him. i walked up to him and punched him in his nose/eye area and broke his nose (i felt it crack)after that he stood there holding his nose. thats when i hit him as hard as i possibly could on his chin and he just fell to the ground and i didnt see him move for about 30-40sec. i think my knuckles broken too..but i didnt go to the doctors yet. his friend jumped in to help him (freakin idiot) i punched him in the gut as hard as i could and then joe was still laying on the ground as i walked up to the side of him and got down and started nailing him in the face and stomach. i must have had about 1 1/2 min to woop his a$$. ppl like him deserve this and i dont feel sorry at all for him. hopefully this will show ppl that im no a defensless kid that has no friends and cant stick up for himself. thanks for telling me to stick up for myself sometimes.

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Way to go Ali! :thumbsup:

Fuck talking shit, tho! Don't say a word and just start swingin if need be. It will get their attention a lot quicker, and make them think twice about messin with you again.

I love hearing about kids standing up for themselves, man.. ..you just made my night, and I'm non-violent nowdays! ;)

The best part is that you will never have to do it again, or at least for awhile. Now, nobody will mess with you. I hope you don't get suspended.

one shot would of been enough,,,why did you feel you had to do more than break his nose???

I think if you just start going crazy and swinging without warning, you'll just be looked at as unstable. (which if you are looking for friends, isn't good)

Don't come across as some looney ass kid who can't control himself. Come across as someone who doesn't take shit off noone. Confident, not crazy. Warn no more than twice. But definately warn....but no empty threats.