I hate to sound like the heartless one here but i think abortion is the best way, neither of you have the money or time to take care of a baby, but i think you should give her the choice.
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I hate to sound like the heartless one here but i think abortion is the best way, neither of you have the money or time to take care of a baby, but i think you should give her the choice.
sorry, its just that you cant undo the suffering that my mom took, i know i ruined her life but she wont admit it, i try and everyone who gave my mom shit, ive fucking kicked their ass, im all my mom had and i try to make her proud, i love my mother and only wish i came a little later on in her lifeQuote:
Originally Posted by stinkyattic
Removed by better Judgement... Sometimes yanno...
Sam, I think I've known you long enough to say this to you, and I hope you'll listen real well. You didn't ruin anyone's life. You are a good girl who has made your mom proud. Seriously, you are a loving daughter and have been a gift to her. Don't tell yourself otherwise. You may have been the result of an unplanned pregnancy, but if anyone in those circumstances is guilty of "ruining," it's not the baby. It's the people who let themselves get unexpectedly pregnant. Babies are the innocent ones in these equations. Please don't beat yourself up for having resulted from an unexpected pregnancy or term yourself as responsible for someone else's suffering. We all go through challenges and endure rough stuff, and all kids, even in the best of circumstances, put their parents through agony at times. You and your mom have beaten the odds, and you're a great kid. Your mom loves you, and so so lot of other folks! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Samwhore
aww, thanks, but im completely okay with being my moms accident, thats why i can truthfully say i was, ive accepted that fact and love my mother, thats why i dont want anyone else (lil josh's girlfriend) to suffer like she did,Quote:
Originally Posted by birdgirl73
dude, do you know where i could get a poster of the second pic?Quote:
Originally Posted by Torog
that is cool looking.
perhaps you know the location of a video.....?
tumor: is attached to carrier, takes away nutrients from the carrier, sometimes fatal, it grows
baby: is attached to host, takes away nutrients from its host, sometimes fatal, it grows, eventually becomes a human.
theres not much difference between the two.
idk why peope attach such emotions to things.
we have....what was it? 6 billion people on this planet? we do not need anymore.
The difference, MastaC, is that last part of the second phrase, "eventually becomes a human." Actually, there's no eventuality about it. It is a human. And that's why there's a world of difference between a fetus and a tumor--and why intelligent, caring people attach such emotions to pregnancies, even early ones.
but it is still a part of the woman, and because it is, she has every right to have it removed, human or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by birdgirl73
You won't get any argument from me on that one, MastaC. She does have that right and should retain it. I simply wish that people wouldn't exercise that right with the frequency that they do. Above all, I wish they'd practice safe sex so they wouldn't ever find themselves in such a situation. It's SO much easier to prevent a pregnancy and never have to be faced with either bringing an unplanned baby into the world or terminating a pregnancy.
i agree with you on thisQuote:
Originally Posted by birdgirl73
Thanks for the pro-choice propagandaQuote:
Originally Posted by Torog
imo abortion.But you 2 have to decide it for YOU.you cant let other ppl throw their beliefs and thinkings on u and jus sort through the bullshit to get the answer,you made a mans mistake,so dnt put on your lil boy shorts now,put them big boy pants on and find the rite solution for YOU.So i think u should jus sit dwn wit ur girl and talk.talk as long as u need til u both come upon an agreement on wat is the rite thing to do,bc its HER body and YOUR potential baby were talkin about,and u two are the only ppl it REALLY affects.
i hope wateva u choose works out for you,im out.
I didn't read the whole thred but from what i did read in it i would say try n think of the baby if u raise him/her think about how he/she might get looked at how they'd feel or what might happen is he/she got adopted honestly if i was about to have a kid i would be more worried about what there ganna have to go threw then i do cus think about it those desicions can last years and years for the kid and for you maybe acouple months or years i dunno im the same age 15. I really don't know what i would do if i was about to have a kid goodluck on w.e. u do man ur in a tuff spot.
So thread leader, Your telling us you don't want to have the kid grow up knowing / thinking it's parents didn't love it. But instead take it's life. How would you feel if some one picked your fate before you had a choice. This is a big choice you have to make, That factors out so much in the end. All I'm really trying to get at. Is that it is another human life.
I got a question for you...
Do you not have morals?
I can't tell you to "be a man and raise it" coz I've never been there.. Personaly, I'd urge her to get an abortion, and if not, to put the child up for adoption. That may seem rather irresponsible and selfish, but lets say you did raise the child - teenagers really aren't ready for parenting, its impact halting educational and emotional growth for the teenager, and most likely an awkward childhood for the baby.
shut the fuck up! i dont need pricks like you saying shit like this to me atm... sorry dude its nothing personal its just hard enough as it is atm.Quote:
Originally Posted by spiked666killer
ok we went to a meeting this morning to discuss what to do and this is what we have covered.
neither of us think it would be fair to try and raise the baby as theres no way we could support it finacially.
i know allot of you think adoption would be the way to go but personally neither of us are verry fond of this idea simply because of how the baby will feel growing up not knowing its real parents, we also dont want to know our baby is out there and we have turned our backs on it.
as for abortion...were not to sure on this yet.
im going to her house now to discuss our options a bit more.
thanks for your support people.
well.. the baby growing up wouldnt HAVE to know its adopted. but then again he/she would just be living one big lie then.. also once the babys grown up and you're older (alot older lol) maybe he/she can come find you and they're mother..Quote:
Originally Posted by lil josh
But next time.. dont be dumb and forget you took the condom off..
Did you use a rubber everytime your fucked? If not, your a fuckin idiot lol
But talk to her and weigh your options, what will be best for her, for you, and most importantly, the baby..........
kk well i have just got back from her house and im pretty down atm :(
she miscarried this morning :(
i see it as a sign from god that its life was not meant to be.
once again ty for all your support.
and just incase your wondering i havn't left her on her own she is with her mum and there having a girly day, they assured me it was ok for me to go.
Cant stress enough how amazingly helpfull you'v all been, thanks.
in bold because i know this thread is probably going to carry on and many will probably miss this message.
Thanks for letting us know, Josh. I hope she's physically OK and that you're both emotionally OK, too. BFA was certainly right on about her prediction. I think you're precisely right that it's a sign it wasn't mean to be.
OK, let's cover this so we never have to go through this again with you or, with luck, anyone else. What's the most important thing to do before ever having sex again? Yep, some kind of reliable birth control. Preferably two types so you'll have a backup.
Best of luck to you, Josh!
ty birdgirl you have been verry helpful.
now im going to sit with a nice joint play my xbox 360 n relax, have been pretty stressed these past few days.
shes going on the birth control pill from now so things should be ok
ty ppl :)
damn thats too bad but in a way its kind of good for you id say just be more careful next time. :)
Lil Josh, please don't have sex again until you're ready to accept the responsiblity of a child. This whole situation was a sign from the universe telling you to keep your dick in your pants.
Everyone who has sex accepts the responsibility of a child? Is it warm in your fantasy world, or should I bring a jacket?Quote:
Originally Posted by baisez le monde.
May I reword my original statement?Quote:
Originally Posted by graph
I meant something more along the lines of "Everyone who has sex SHOULD be monetarily and emotionally CAPABLE of taking care of a child."
Should, not is. Big difference. It's way too much to ask for... but hey, it's my opinion. If I could, I would pass a law that anyone underage who has a baby, the boy gets castrated and the girl gets her uterus removed.
Just kidding.
Or am I?.... muahahahaa :bong:
Just take it like a man and raise the child.
Hehe, you're not kidding ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by baisez le monde.
lol na i am not waiting unttil i am ready to raise a child b4 i have sex again lol.
sorry, sex drive to high.
lol so your saying all 16 year olds that have sex should be ready for a child?
In a perfect world, yes.
It's called responsibility. ~
good luck bro.. live and learn.. i had 4 kids b4 i was 28 it's so hard.. i don't
want to stear u wrong,but i wouldnt change nothing.
Thats what I was going to say, Im a senior in highschool and i cannot imagine one of the niner girls having a baby, they weigh about 7 pounds 8 ounces themselves, def not developed enough to support another life.Quote:
Originally Posted by BabyFacedAbortion
although the outcome was a sad one, it seems like things worked out for the best for the two of you. just remember to use condoms even if she is taking the pill. she only has to forget once for this to happen again, and next time things might not work out in your favor
Damn should have worn a condom, man up on your responbilities now.Quote:
Originally Posted by lil josh
your lucky man
be smart next time
im your age too man, i know that a kid is the last thing i would want
If she is going to go on the pill, try NuvaRing instead. I have been on birthcontrol (bc) for 2 years now, and NuvaRing is the third one I have tried. It is a low dose bc, so it won't cause any extreme hormonaly changes in her, but it is more effective than any other type of hormonal bc. This is because you insert the ring, leave it in for three weeks, than take it out for a week- there is no failure rate due to improper taking of the pill. If she doesn't take the bc pill at the same time every day, it's failure rate increases. The ring is a lot more reliable in that respect. You can check out their website- there is also a cool program she could download on her computer that pops up a reminder of when she has to insert a new ring, and take out the old one. Very handy! I would definitely consider this method- it is my favorite so far, and it is nice knowing how reliable it is. Using condoms at the same time would also be a good idea, as hormonal bc methods are never 100% efficient.
I hope your gf is doing ok after the miscarriage though, I know that can be very hard for a lot of women.
ABORT IT. Seriously, dont screw yours and her life up with a kid. If she has it, wether you keep it or give it up for adoption she will be left with streach marks, and at that size because shes young they will look really bad. Just abort it asap, its best for everyone.
Plus personaly i wouldnt like to put a child of mine up for adoption, id hate to think there was a kid of mine in this world and i didnt know anything about it.
Howdy lil josh,Quote:
Originally Posted by lil josh
The way I see it,for being irresponsible,there's a price to be paid..but it shouldn't be yer unborn child,who pays for the sins of it's parents..it should be you two,who pay the price-instead.
If y'all think that yer adult enuff to engage in risky and irresponsible sex,then y'all are old enuff to put away yer childish things and dedicate yer lives to yer child.
Whatever decision that y'all finally make,it will affect y'all for the rest of yer lives,so choose wisely..be mindful also,that yer gal could die from complications from an abortion procedure(infanticide,in my opinion).
I'm praying that you will come to yer senses and not murder yer child..be accountable for yer bad choices and grow up and be a man.
If I could,I'd adopt yer child and raise it with the love that it deserves..there are many ,who can do such..if nothing else,give them a chance to do so. As for yer gal carrying the child to birth,it's the least that she can do--for her bad choice. In the old days,the girl's father,would have forced you to be responsible for yer bad choice..they called em shotgun weddings..you either got married and put away yer childish things,or ya got yer ass whupped.
Have a good one ...
Howdy lil josh,Quote:
Originally Posted by lil josh
I replied to you,before I saw this..apparently God looked into yer hearts and realized that y'all are un-fit to be parents and be trusted with the miracle of a child.
Yer gal,should have some counseling..and you should git some kind of come-uppins for being so irresponsible. :mad: Both of y'all,should be grounded and kept away from each other,unless it's under supervision,maybe you should git a vasectomy..if you have so little respect for Life. If I were yer gal's dad,I'd be raising all sorts of heck and I'd try to git criminal charges against ya,like statutory rape.
Have a good one ...
torog
do you know where i might find a video of an abortion taking place?
i would love to watch that happen, seems entertaining.
Howdy dutch.lover,Quote:
Originally Posted by dutch.lover
Yer advice,would be appropriate,if directed at adults..but not so..when we're talking about children having children. Neither of them,has a right to engage in sexual activity of any sort,between each other,as they are both minors.
At least you acknowledge,that there are consequences,that could be heavy.
Have a good one ...