how would you handle this

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Originally Posted by Billionfold

Damn you. I was in a serious mood and that actually made me laugh. This isn't something to laugh about, but you're entitled to your... strange outlook. No hate, I don't think you meant anything bad for it.

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i didnt mean nothin bad by it, just thought id try to crack the icy mood that had everyone fridgid with a joke.
and before you say "this is nothing to joke about" please remember that everything can be funny when viewed from the correct distance.
but yeah, too bad for kid. i hope they lock her in the looney bin and shoot her up with olanzapine for the rest of her days. trust me people, olanzapine injections for life is worse than death.
let me explain, olanzapine kills everything emotional. you cannot feel anything at all and it is like your dead, but still living. the russians during the cold war fed revolutionaries olanzapine pills for years and every one of them prayed for death.

[quote=Billionfold]I'm actually not a very religious person. How is life in prison getting away scott free? It isn't like they're sending them to Happy Fun World or Easy Peasy Palace. It's prison. Life in prison. No going outside when you want to. No freedom. Your life is regulated from morning to night. Caging a wild bird. That is a fate far worse than death. Not to mention the other birds they're being caged with. Murder is a heinous crime. She will not be put just with the petty burglars or small time crooks. No. She will spend the last of her waking days behind cold steel. Death would be a quick and merciful end to such a crime. She should suffer until her very last breath.[/QUOTE

Yep that is EXACTLY how I feel about it. No chance for parole punished everyday for the rest of her life. Death is the easy way out.

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Originally Posted by Mean Green Charlene

Stooping to her own level only makes us just as bad as she is. Throw her in a jail cell till she rots. They really don't like people who rape//kill children in prison.
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yup, in an ALL-MALE prison... maximum security.

oh i'd pay to see that shit go down

shouldn't this be in the current events forum?

lol
iloveyou

hey knowm, are you trying to get moderized or something?

LOL - something likethat

one of my posts was moved.. and so I was just TROLLING along and seeing if every post should be moved..

just swinging my KAK around a bit... lol

iloveyou

cool, keep on toking

cheers...

11 months? how high are you?
im getting high, i couldnt resist knowms "cheers"

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Originally Posted by rebgirl420

yeah i cant understand people against the death penalty for shit like this

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It stems from the fundamental belief that killing in cold blood is wrong, regardless of circumstance.

She doesn't deserve the privaledge of breathing another breath. If I were one of her sons i would of killed her myself. Say what you will about 'an eye for an eye makes the world go blind' but i think her death is necessary for the justice of her daughter.

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Originally Posted by Dro_Princess

The should make a Microwave big enough for her and put her in there for 30 seconds, and then one min. and keep going up 30 seconds so she suffers really good before she explodes. That women is sick and deserves to die a horrible death.

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It must be the weed, were on the same wave length. :joint1: :rastabong:

I can't belive no one posted this pic yet: :microwave:

hahaha

That was great :D

one of my biggest fears is turning on the dryer,,,cause one time the cat was in it...

I think joking in the thread is DESPICABLE!!!

There are two aspects to any punishment. First is the punishment to the one who committed the crime. Second, and probably more importantly, the punishment should be a deterent to any others out there who may be thinking of committing such a crime. The death penalty can be more effective because it carries a higher fear factor than life in prison.

In any case it certainly appears that our current system does not provide sufficient deterrent. The fact that many people are out walking the streets again after committing horrific crimes, either from reduced sentences or from getting off on a loophole, is proof of that. The fact that many commit these crimes again is further proof. And finally, the fact that so many of these crimes happen in the first place should be all the proof we need.

Say what you want about the death penalty but it can be an effective deterent. I lived for a while in a country that is known for it's lack of "human rights". A country where justice severe and is handed out quickly. Nobody who murders another, molests a child, etc, will ever be seen again. Although we in the west like to criticize that country for what we consider cruel and unusual punishment, it seems to work. When I was there I lived in a city with 14million people. Yet despite the fact that this city shared many of the problems of other big cities(poor, homelessness, etc) it was incredibly safe. I was a rich(by local standards) white, foriegner who stuck out like a sore thumb. But I could walk down any street, at any time of the day, and never fear for my safety. How many big cities in the U.S can we say that about? None. Bottom line, the harsh penalties for committing crimes in that country worked.

So, maybe executing this woman is wrong. If so, lock her up in prison forever. But it should be in a 6x6x6' cell, no tv, no books, no nothing. She should never see blue sky or the light of day again. Prison shouldn't be considered a place to "do your time". prison should be a place where people are terrified to go. And if that's cruel and unusual punishment, so the fuck what. Microwaving a child is pretty god damn cruel and unusual too.

Hey Fengzi, Are you sure it was FEAR of capital punishment that made the streets of the city you were in safer? Were there other viables, for instance how much exposure to other violent stimuli did these people have, what was their economic and social problems?

I have walked the streets of Amsterdam, Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal at 2 AM and I was not frightened in the least but I would NEVER walk the streets alone in NY, LA, Detroit <----OMG :eek: or how about Little Rock, Arkansas at night! or most any US city. I think I'd have to see research that proves these people were deterred by fear of capital punishment before I would beleive it there are too many civilized countries with no death penalty and extremely low murder rates. My gosh even Melbourne and Sydney are safe and they are HUGE cities why are they not free for alls for the evil people with no death sentence to worry about?

In addition to BlueCat's points. This has been studied and debated ad nausem but what they always find is that capital punishment is not a deterent in the US. Great, maybe things worked better over in China, but unless you're suggesting we "streamline" the justice system, guilty parties still have a number of rights and protections (chances to appeal, etc). It costs the taxpayers more to execute an individual than to put him away for life.

I'd also ask you how many of those people who 'disappear' are guilty of the crimes they're convicted of? Its pretty easy for a brutal government to rule by fear but maybe it's not a system we should be looking to in order to solve our problems.

so pretty much from what i know
i can go outside at any given moment
and execute people i dont like [i hate]
then look forward to a life of books and free food
hot showers,movies and a job that pays
granted i wont be walking th estreets but who cares
i can stil be happy in jail
that swhat the system tells me


I HAVE BBEN INCARCERATED AND IT IS NOT THAT BAD AFTER YOU GET USED TO IT , USUALLY EVERYONES JOKING AROUND AND GAMBLING AND GETTING HIGH ALL DAY EVERY DAY.

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Originally Posted by birdgirl73

This appalling story made me physically sick. I cannot abide such cruelty. And cannot understand it in any way.

I live in the suburb north of Dallas where Dena Schlosser, the crazy-religious woman with post-partum psychosis, cut the arms off her 10-month-old baby and let it bleed to death. The woman was found not guilty by reason of insanity. Yet she was guilty. That case still sickens me, too. It didn't have to happen, as the microwave case didn't, either. I don't know what the appropriate punishment is in these cases. The angry, vindictive part of me wants to microwave them to death or cut their arms off in return. But I'm certain that's probably not the correct answer justice-wise.

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ooooooooooooh god i remember that one....that made me just freak the hell out...i've heard of people doing some fucked up shit to kids...(which is still wrong as hell) but god...where'd she get that idea? how can peoples minds function like that?

what always got me though is i'd lay awake wondering HOW she cut em off...either way the kid suffered and bled to death...but i'm wondering if she fwacked em off quick-like...or "sawed away" at the poor things arms for awhile (cuz then the kid would've suffered more)

these people aren't getting what the deserve. i mean, yes...they're insane...but so the fuck what? they still did the crime. i've thought about doing some fucked up shit (i.e. punching a cop...i have anger and pig issues :P) so does that mean (since i do have mental issues and am on medicine) that i could punch the shit outta a cop and plead insanity? fuck no....why should other people be any different?

what always got me though is i'd lay awake wondering HOW she cut em off...either way the kid suffered and bled to death...but i'm wondering if she fwacked em off quick-like...or "sawed away" at the poor things arms for awhile (cuz then the kid would've suffered more

i started picturing your words and damn
i had to stop thinking about that shit.....fucking hoorrible

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Originally Posted by BlueCat

Hey Fengzi, Are you sure it was FEAR of capital punishment that made the streets of the city you were in safer? Were there other viables, for instance how much exposure to other violent stimuli did these people have, what was their economic and social problems?

I have walked the streets of Amsterdam, Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal at 2 AM and I was not frightened in the least but I would NEVER walk the streets alone in NY, LA, Detroit <----OMG :eek: or how about Little Rock, Arkansas at night! or most any US city. I think I'd have to see research that proves these people were deterred by fear of capital punishment before I would beleive it there are too many civilized countries with no death penalty and extremely low murder rates. My gosh even Melbourne and Sydney are safe and they are HUGE cities why are they not free for alls for the evil people with no death sentence to worry about?

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too many gangs and crackheads there...i wouldn't be caught on those streets alone...day OR night lol

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Originally Posted by BabySnookums

too many gangs and crackheads there...i wouldn't be caught on those streets alone...day OR night lol

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i try not to be on the streets alone where i live either. i'll do it, but i carry a little assurance in my back pocket just in case some crack head comes up and says "gooogly booglah stab me" so i can ablidge

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Originally Posted by Polymirize

In addition to BlueCat's points. This has been studied and debated ad nausem but what they always find is that capital punishment is not a deterent in the US. Great, maybe things worked better over in China, but unless you're suggesting we "streamline" the justice system, guilty parties still have a number of rights and protections (chances to appeal, etc). It costs the taxpayers more to execute an individual than to put him away for life.

I'd also ask you how many of those people who 'disappear' are guilty of the crimes they're convicted of? Its pretty easy for a brutal government to rule by fear but maybe it's not a system we should be looking to in order to solve our problems.

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I can certainly see why our current system of capital punishment is not a deterent. Not the way it is now structured. But I really wonder if those studies would have the same results if those found guilty were executed within, say, a maximum of one year after being convicted.

Maybe the death penalty is not the answer. I'm not really supporting en eye for an eye. I'm just supporting much harsher punishment for those convicted of violent crimes. Clearly the current system provides little in way of a deterent. Prisoners have the right to do this, the right to do that, etc etc. The hell with that.

Like I mentioned already, a lot of these guys just figure "oh well, if I'm caught I'll do my time and be out in a few years" . People who are considering a violent crime shouldn't think this way. Prison shouldn't be an inconvenience. It should be a living hell that nobody ever wants to experience. No books, no tv, no rights, no nothing. And if my taxes are going to pay for their food they damn sure are going to work for it. They're violent criminals who have willingly hurt another person. I don't give a shit about them.

yeah...this shit was on the news right after i had my son...when i was still all emotional and shit...crying over everything....i had actual nightmares over that news story.... *shudders*

No books......really?

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Originally Posted by VoidLivesOn

No books......really?

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That's right, no books, no movies, no gambling, and make them wear some device that keeps them from reaching their cock and jerking themselves off. Oh yeah, one more thing, absolutely no blueberry pancakes! Ever!!

No blueberry pancakes now that is HARSH!! :D

So that means no blueberry pancake recipe books then too huh?

how about Jesus Camp the MOvie?

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Originally Posted by VoidLivesOn

how about Jesus Camp the MOvie?

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I would imagine that would be considered toture. So, :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Skink

one of my biggest fears is turning on the dryer,,,cause one time the cat was in it...

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I really did that one time. I didnt know he was sleeping in there so i closed the door and turned it on. He wasnt in there long though, but when i opened the door he shot out like a rocket.

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Originally Posted by Fengzi

I would imagine that would be considered toture. So, :thumbsup:

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LMAO :D